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How Could an American President Be so Anti-American?
« on: August 21, 2010, 04:06:00 PM »
Sort of felt like going on a "drinking with Bob" rant after reading this.  Hard to imagine Obama is not one and done. 

How Could an American President Be so Anti-American?
By Rusty Weiss
Published August 20, 2010 | FoxNews.com

After an initial grace period in which most Americans were willing to give a new president the benefit of the doubt, what this nation has steadily watched is a man and an administration almost exclusively governing against the will of the people.  While the crux of his predecessor’s low approval ratings were in fighting an ‘unpopular war’, President Obama is watching his own approval rating plunge due to an unpopular, well, everything else.  His record has been so blatantly in contrast to the will of this nation, that it could very nearly be defined as anti-American.

The latest example of this can be seen in the president’s decision to voice his support for the construction of the Ground Zero mosque.  While CNN called his message regarding the mosque ‘incoherent’, Americans understood his initial comments quite clearly – and they’re not taking kindly to hearing their president express support for a project that they overwhelmingly oppose.  Nearly 70 percent of Americans object to the mosque being built on hallowed ground.  (Yes, the site was actively involved on 9/11 when the landing gear assembly of one of the planes used in the attack crashed through the roof of what was then a Burlington Coat Factory).

Why is there such opposition?  Because the people aren’t buying into the administration’s talking points on this matter.  What they understand, and what the administration fails to understand, is that this building has nothing to do with religious freedom.  Muslims are not being prohibited from practicing their religion.  They are simply being asked to display a sense of decency by building the mosque in an area not directly involved in such an emotional event for our nation; away from the site where thousands of lives ended in a declaration of war from radical Islam.

America understands common sense and decency.  It appears our president does not.

The Ground Zero mosque certainly hasn’t been the only example of the Obama administration fighting hard to ignore the voice of the people.  It is almost as if White House briefings indicate the mood of the country, and the president subsequently instructs his staff to move in the opposite direction.

Observe…

The most obvious example of this has been the force-feeding of the health care reform bill down the collective throats of a nation.  With the vote looming in mid-March, the measure was opposed by likely voters by a wide margin, 54-41 percent.  Worse, the respondents who felt the most strongly about the bill were overwhelmingly in opposition.  45 percent strongly opposed, compared to 26 percent who strongly favored the plan.
The U.S. Justice Department’s decision to fight the Arizona immigration law through the courts; a law that 59 percent of U.S. voters would like to see in their very own state.  Similar findings demonstrate that prior to last month’s ruling, 56 percent opposed the decision to challenge the legality of the law in the first place.

It is the first victory touted by the Obama administration, it is the topic of his current ‘summer of recovery’ tour, and it was (and remains) a big mistake according to most Americans.  Just two weeks prior to signing his $787 billion stimulus bill into law, two separate polls showed citizens beginning to question the wasteful government spending plan.  It was opposed 43-37 percent, but that didn’t stop the president and his cohorts from pursuing their economic agenda at the people’s expense.  Fortunately for the unemployed, as Obama promised, the unemployment ratestayed below 8 percent and, er … well, never mind.

In response to the oil spill crisis in the Gulf of Mexico, Obama issued a ban on deepwater oil drilling, a policy that nearly three quarters of Americans opposed.  Because the opposition to this was so massive, the administration apparently viewed it as a policy more-so in need of passage, issuing two moratoriums on deepwater drilling -- a move that fellow Democrat Mary Landrieu claimed could “cost more jobs than the spill itself."  Perhaps the ‘summer of recovery’ doesn’t apply to the gulf coast.

Another result of the oil disaster has been the administration’s expressed desire to move forward on the so-called cap-and-trade legislation.  The legislation, an attempt to limit the total carbon dioxide emissions allowed to be released into the environment, while also imposing a massive tax burden on the economy, is opposed by 70 percent of Americans.

Let’s not for a moment pretend that officials in the administration are not laying the groundwork for non-legislative blanket amnesty.  You need only ask President Bush how Americans feel about the prospect of amnesty.  On a side note, if there is any question as to their motives, heed the words of a former member of Obama’s National Latino Advisory Council, Eliseo Medina, who outlined what amnesty could do for the Democrats at the polls:

"We reform the immigration laws; it puts 12 million people on the path to citizenship and eventually voters.  If we have eight million new voters who care about, and will be voting, we will be creating a governing coalition for the long term."

Despite what the media would have you believe, it was clear that a majority of the people supported the President in his initial efforts post-election.  However, the descent into failure as an American leader has been steep and steady.  And it isn’t just recent actions that are contributing to the drop in approval ratings.  Lost in the more current list of unpopular moves are some of the early attempts at implementing policies which were equally unpopular.  They include…

An early term executive order that gave federal funding to family planning organizations that provide abortions, opposed by 58 percent of Americans.

A subsequently embarrassing mark on the president’s record involving an executive order to close the prison in Guantanamo Bay.  The goal was to shut down the prison within one year, and was opposed by a 50-44 percent margin.  It remains open, but not due to a lack of effort on the President’s part.

On that same note, the DOJ’s decision to investigate the treatment and possible torture of terrorists during the Bush administration was considered wrong by a 49-36 percent tally.

The announcement that terrorists, including September 11th mastermind, Khalid Sheik Mohammed, would be tried in New York City, was roundly rejected by the American public 51-29 percent.  Up until recent developments, this move may have been the hallmark of the anti-American presidency, granting rights afforded our citizens to a terrorist with single-minded designs on destroying those same citizens, speaks volumes.
Whether it was inexperienced decision making early on, or recent ignorance of what the constituency supports, isn’t it about time that the president of the United States started implementing pro-American policies?  Isn’t it about time that he listen to the people that elected him?

Then again, that would require abandoning his liberal agenda and start accepting what America is – a predominantly conservative nation.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/08/20/rusty-weiss-obama-anti-american-ground-zero-mosque-health-care/

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Re: How Could an American President Be so Anti-American?
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2010, 05:05:37 PM »
anyone remember that poll...

46% of americans wanted govt to do less/stay outta our affairs (mostly repubs).
46% of americans wanted govt to provide more services/control (mostly dems).

now, you toss in the fact that many repubs support add'l govt controls on things like AZ Id check, WTC GZ mosque, etc... And yeah, a little more than half of americans want the govt to control more of their lives.

Obama's simply going with the will of the majority, according to polls...  :-\



This is why, unless the 2012 GOP candidate can truly deliver a new message of fiscal responsibility and minimal govt, winning the white house isn't gonna be a cakewalk. 

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Re: How Could an American President Be so Anti-American?
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2010, 05:38:07 PM »
anyone remember that poll...

46% of americans wanted govt to do less/stay outta our affairs (mostly repubs).
46% of americans wanted govt to provide more services/control (mostly dems).

now, you toss in the fact that many repubs support add'l govt controls on things like AZ Id check, WTC GZ mosque, etc... And yeah, a little more than half of americans want the govt to control more of their lives.

Obama's simply going with the will of the majority, according to polls...  :-\



This is why, unless the 2012 GOP candidate can truly deliver a new message of fiscal responsibility and minimal govt, winning the white house isn't gonna be a cakewalk. 

 ::)  ::)

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Re: How Could an American President Be so Anti-American?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2010, 06:18:42 PM »
anyone remember that poll...

46% of americans wanted govt to do less/stay outta our affairs (mostly repubs).
46% of americans wanted govt to provide more services/control (mostly dems).

now, you toss in the fact that many repubs support add'l govt controls on things like AZ Id check, WTC GZ mosque, etc... And yeah, a little more than half of americans want the govt to control more of their lives.

Obama's simply going with the will of the majority, according to polls...  :-\



This is why, unless the 2012 GOP candidate can truly deliver a new message of fiscal responsibility and minimal govt, winning the white house isn't gonna be a cakewalk. 

 ::) ::) ::)

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Re: How Could an American President Be so Anti-American?
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2010, 06:35:25 PM »
The voice of a real president, not 240's communist icon and hero. 



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Re: How Could an American President Be so Anti-American?
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2010, 07:44:23 PM »
The voice of a real president, not 240's communist icon and hero. 




This would be a great campaign clip for any Republican running for office in November. 

Obama:  "At some point you've made enough money."   >:(

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Re: How Could an American President Be so Anti-American?
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2010, 01:58:23 AM »
The voice of a real president, not 240's communist icon and hero. 




 ::) Economic growth was modest under Reagan, and what economic growth did take place was largely a product of borrowing. The economy of the past 30 years has been built fundamentally on debt and other unsustainable trends, such as lack of investment in infrastructure and constant reductions of interest rates to fuel the debt dependent economy.  You really haven't studied the economy of the 1970s and 1980s have you?  Contrast that with the American economy of the 1940s and 1950s and you'll see why Reagan's policies were so destructive.  Reagan was terrible for the American middle class and the overall US economy.  Every President for the last 60 years has been terrible economically for the US.  Clinton (NAFTA), Bush, Obama etc.  You're just another brainwashed ideologue stuck in the left right paradigm. 

Also for someone that is constantly lambasting the "government" being responsible for all the ills of the American economy remember it was the US military and NASA aka GUBERNMENT that were responsible for two of the biggest positive economic impacts in the last 30 years......the internet and satellite communications aka telecommunications.  The private sector never would have been able to develop these two sectors and if they did for example the internet would never be as free as it is now.  The key to everything is finding a balance.  And that balance does not exist anymore that's for sure.   


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Re: How Could an American President Be so Anti-American?
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2010, 02:03:09 AM »
As much as people like you want to ignore it....the simple fact is redistribution of wealth is at the heart of America's economic problems nowadays.  The middle class has been gutted and milked and their wealth siphoned off into the hands of a few.  Now, before you go spouting off at the mouth just because someone like me states that redistribution of wealth is at the heart of our problems, that doesn't mean it should be redistributed back towards the middle class by force.  But the fact is the middle class is dying, the middle class is what made this country strong.  Without a strong, prosperous middle class America is finished.  So the question is how do you redistribute wealth back into the hands of the middle class?  Through government?  Through the free market?  Through a little bit of both? 

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Re: How Could an American President Be so Anti-American?
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2010, 02:17:05 AM »
anyone have stats on growth/decline of USA middle class from 2000 to 2010?

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Re: How Could an American President Be so Anti-American?
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2010, 05:49:34 AM »
anyone have stats on growth/decline of USA middle class from 2000 to 2010?


Driving through a random neighborhood should be enough statistics, but


http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2008/07/middle_class_squeeze.html
"The trends since 1989, the first year for which we have data, showed an increase in middle-class security through the 1990s. After 2000, however, the situation deteriorated very quickly—all of the gains in middle-class economic security were erased within a few years. We have now updated the figures to reflect the trends for 2006 and 2007 and to include more accurate data for 2005 than we had before. All the measures we tracked either decreased further or stayed at their already low levels from 2005."


http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,439766,00.html
America's Middle Class Has Become Globalization's Loser

22 Statistics That Prove The Middle Class Is Being Systematically Wiped Out Of Existence In America
83 percent of all U.S. stocks are in the hands of 1 percent of the people.

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61 percent of Americans "always or usually" live paycheck to paycheck, which was up from 49 percent in 2008 and 43 percent in 2007.
66% of the income growth between 2001 and 2007 went to the top 1% of all Americans.


66% of the income growth between 2001 and 2007 went to the top 1% of all Americans.


36 percent of Americans say that they don't contribute anything to retirement savings.

36 percent of Americans say that they don't contribute anything to retirement savings.


A staggering 43 percent of Americans have less than $10,000 saved up for retirement.


A staggering 43 percent of Americans have less than $10,000 saved up for retirement.


Any look into the stats will show plenty more
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Re: How Could an American President Be so Anti-American?
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2010, 06:52:06 AM »
Except for a blip in the 1970s American wage increases haven't beaten inflation in 30 years.  The average CEO makes how many times more than the average worker?   ::)  The American economy has fallen from grace and it only took us ~30-50 years.  Pathetic. 

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Re: How Could an American President Be so Anti-American?
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2010, 07:10:07 AM »
Except for a blip in the 1970s American wage increases haven't beaten inflation in 30 years.  The average CEO makes how many times more than the average worker?   ::)  The American economy has fallen from grace and it only took us ~30-50 years.  Pathetic. 

It started with Wilson and the Federal Reserve