Matt C. front picture.

[Matt C]

Well, it depends. Will your chest ever be as strong as your shoulders and arms? The resounding answer is NO!!! Can you bring it up to at least a respectable size? YES, I believe you can.

Remember, 'If you reach for the stars, you might not quite get one, but you won't end up with a handful of mud, either.'

 

Very interesting...

I would like very much to just bring it up to a respectable size.

[gh15]

lifetime natural...dunno how many times i gotta say that.  matt c, my advice is dont listen to anything gh15 says.  drugs are not necessary for you to look good.  just lots of food, heavy consistent lifting, and then a very good diet to show the results. 

good luck matt.

never did beastdrol eh? never looked into amazon to buy some hdrol eh?...never did superdrol back all those years when it was over the counter gnc steroid to your door via your own car and legs ,,just cross the street and get ,,steroid that is stronger than dianabol and produce dry gains,,

that steroid got you from your louzy 163 to your ouzy 175 my friend,,

then you went into the fina pellets idea,,but it was an upgrade since its too scary you never know who will knock yoru door down wanna check if you have cows,,so the safe bet was to continue lie in the gym that you are on syntrax6 and on the side do some bottles of mdrol and hdrol which are the best drugs available to human kind,,

you suffer from all those sides on you ,,your brother the same ,,but dont you worry ...many many pussy americano kids do the exact smae thing ,,thats why we call them pussy because they live a lie and will lie their way but they will never truly look like us bodybuilders ,,they only play imagine ,,they do it for the girls..

stop lieing!

a lifter that have the ability to get a potent steroid perfectly legal ....will run to the stor and get it ...especially when its sold legaly ,,thats the reason 60% of generation nothingness  mistakenly confused for big muscular guys by old gym rats ...those old gym rats didnt follow technology and the way the supplement industry became a drug industry for a while and MERGED ,,

you used drugs ,,so did your brother,,you still using drugs! and most likley our brother too,,

fellas like you disgust me because you actually sit on boards like this and lie,,you have plenty of boards to lie on from rx to md to anabolicminds,,thsoe are boards we made for lies,,,go lie on danta board they will be ok with it ,,

BUT DO NOT LIE TO GETBIGGER! WE ARE A KNOWN NO BULLSHIT WHEN IT COMES TO HORMONES BOARD,,WE ARE PRIDE OURSELVSES WITH BEING THIS WAY ,,THIS IS THE MAIN REASON ALL LIFTERS  COMES TO THIS BOARD,,,TO GET THE TRUTH IN THEIR FACE WETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT

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[Grape Ape]

The main reason why I brought up this topic was because after seeing John Romano's picture, I really started to question if it was possible that some people would never have a chest under any circumstance.  I'd like to believe that is not the case, but I suppose I don't know.

You have the same shape chest/shoulders as I do.  No matter what you do, you'll never have that bottom "shelf" look that guys like Wes get.

The key is to not give a shit about it.  You're not a bodybuilder, so who cares?  Train for strength and power, make your shoulders freakier, and don't worry about it.  If you really care about improving your appearance, just get ultra lean, you'll look better than 99% of the people out there.

[spinnis]

I think to be shredded you woud have to lose about 30 lbs.
This is me before I started dieting for a show  5'9'' 175lbs , competed at shredded 154 lbs ,no supplemments (just whey protein ), diuretics or  drugs .


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epic long ass boxing reach lol

[Jaime]

never did beastdrol eh? never looked into amazon to buy some hdrol eh?...never did superdrol back all those years when it was over the counter gnc steroid to your door via your own car and legs ,,just cross the street and get ,,steroid that is stronger than dianabol and produce dry gains,,

that steroid got you from your louzy 163 to your ouzy 175 my friend,,

then you went into the fina pellets idea,,but it was an upgrade since its too scary you never know who will knock yoru door down wanna check if you have cows,,so the safe bet was to continue lie in the gym that you are on syntrax6 and on the side do some bottles of mdrol and hdrol which are the best drugs available to human kind,,

you suffer from all those sides on you ,,your brother the same ,,but dont you worry ...many many pussy americano kids do the exact smae thing ,,thats why we call them pussy because they live a lie and will lie their way but they will never truly look like us bodybuilders ,,they only play imagine ,,they do it for the girls..

stop lieing!


a lifter that have the ability to get a potent steroid perfectly legal ....will run to the stor and get it ...especially when its sold legaly ,,thats the reason 60% of generation nothingness  mistakenly confused for big muscular guys by old gym rats ...those old gym rats didnt follow technology and the way the supplement industry became a drug industry for a while and MERGED ,,

you used drugs ,,so did your brother,,you still using drugs! and most likley our brother too,,

fellas like you disgust me because you actually sit on boards like this and lie,,you have plenty of boards to lie on from rx to md to anabolicminds,,thsoe are boards we made for lies,,,go lie on danta board they will be ok with it ,,

BUT DO NOT LIE TO GETBIGGER! WE ARE A KNOWN NO BULLSHIT WHEN IT COMES TO HORMONES BOARD,,WE ARE PRIDE OURSELVSES WITH BEING THIS WAY ,,THIS IS THE MAIN REASON ALL LIFTERS  COMES TO THIS BOARD,,,TO GET THE TRUTH IN THEIR FACE WETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT

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Do you think everybody that trains is a user?

[gh15]

they woudnt ever call it TRAIN if they were not on hormones,, anyone who goes into the vocabulary and uses the word train as in consider himself an ATHLETE ..will stop at absolutely nothing to get better,,

liars and scambags is the majority of what you know of as bodybuilders,,that includes 9 out of 10 amatuers and ofcourse 10 out of 10 professionals,,

no one would say i go train,,,they would say i go WORK OUT,,

the brain of the typical american gym rat up to the pro level is so fucked from within it became a joke and since you can not call bodybuilding a joke per say because it still involve some type of lifting ....it is known as C U L T

bodybuilding will never be a sport,,it used to be more of a sport back in the 80s closer to it with more serious guys,,now days its pure cult and pure insult,,but hey the rich get richer and the poor get poorer so  i got no complaints:)

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[Matt C]

You have the same shape chest/shoulders as I do.  No matter what you do, you'll never have that bottom "shelf" look that guys like Wes get.

The key is to not give a shit about it.  You're not a bodybuilder, so who cares?  Train for strength and power, make your shoulders freakier, and don't worry about it.  If you really care about improving your appearance, just get ultra lean, you'll look better than 99% of the people out there.

Yes, that is what I would like, the bottom "shelf" look that guys like Wes get!  His chest honestly looks amazing.

[Fatpanda]

matt in all honesty read my post - do what i said.

i promise you within a month your chest will be much improved.

[Matt C]

matt in all honesty read my post - do what i said.

i promise you within a month your chest will be much improved.

That would be awesome.  Honestly, I'd love to look like Nasser but obviously this is unrealistic.  Having a chest similar to Mark Wahlberg's would be enough for me.

Here is around 9.5 years of progress, maybe 40 pounds in total:

[Fatpanda]

That would be awesome.  Honestly, I'd love to look like Nasser but obviously this is unrealistic.  Having a chest similar to Mark Wahlberg's would be enough for me.

Here is around 9.5 years of progress, maybe 40 pounds in total:

woah hold on a minute, i never said you would look like nasser, but you could have a bigger chest.

you have well developed anterior delts, and tris - this is a product of chasing heavier and heavier bench numbers. your form dictates that you minimize as much pec involvement as possible/ maximize tri involvement.
if you lower the weight - widen your grip and increase the reps to around 6-10 your chest will start growing again.

it will happen in as little as a month - but i guarantee it will get thicker.

stick with decline bench rather than dumbbells - i normally would advise dumbbells but as your form is used to a narrower width on barbell i fear you would naturally go narrower with the dumbbells - even without realizing.

it is simply a matter of anatomy - you seem to have no clue about it  

[Matt C]

woah hold on a minute, i never said you would look like nasser, but you could have a bigger chest.

you have well developed anterior delts, and tris - this is a product of chasing heavier and heavier bench numbers. your form dictates that you minimize as much pec involvement as possible/ maximize tri involvement.
if you lower the weight - widen your grip and increase the reps to around 6-10 your chest will start growing again.

it will happen in as little as a month - but i guarantee it will get thicker.

stick with decline bench rather than dumbbells - i normally would advise dumbbells but as your form is used to a narrower width on barbell i fear you would naturally go narrower with the dumbbells - even without realizing.

it is simply a matter of physiology - you seem to have no clue about it  

This would be honestly amazing.

And yes, I realize only a few genetically elite are capable of looking like Nasser, the first bodybuilder I ever saw on video [in 2001] and he looked amazing!

[Matt C]

Another question for everyone, what products here should I buy?:

http://www.inzernet.com

[Matt C]

in all honesty - the guys are correct.

1st - you need to drop the powerlifting moves - bench in pl is all tri's and shoulders - which are your strong point. change to slower movements, widen the grip width, increase the reps to 6-10 and lower the weight.

2nd - increase calories by 500 a day, while each time at the gym increasing the weight on the bar 5-10%.

3rd when your strength stalls, and/or weight doesn't increase in 2 weeks - increase calories another 500.

its very very simple.

I plan to do this today.  I will be incorporating Joe Weider's "Pre-exhaust" principle as well.

[Fatpanda]

I plan to do this today.  I will be incorporating Joe Weider's "Pre-exhaust" principle as well.

strange - i didn't think it was possible for you to actually be as stupid as you look.

oh well

life goes on.

[Ursus]

This first two are of me aged 11 and 17 respectively. In the first pic I am the geek 3rd from the right in the front row. God knows what I weighed. I had not started lifting weights in the second pic and am around 185-90lbs

The third pic is me a few weeks ago at 248lbs I don't care if I look fat as I have abs in proper lighting. Fait just walking around. Clear when tensed.

[Fatpanda]

This first two are of me aged 11 and 17 respectively. In the first pic I am the geek 3rd from the right in the front row. God knows what I weighed. I had not started lifting weights in the second pic and am around 185-90lbs

The third pic is me a few weeks ago at 248lbs I don't care if I look fat as I have abs in proper lighting. Fait just walking around. Clear when tensed.

i find it astounding that you built that physique on potatoes and irish stew 

with less than 100g protein a day. 

[Ursus]

The past 12-18 months I have upped my protein. Very gradually.

So far today I may have only had 120g but before I go to bed in a few hours I will have had 200g

[Fatpanda]

me too - today was a workout day though 

[WillGrant]

Another question for everyone, what products here should I buy?:

http://www.inzernet.com

Matt stop being stupid , you have been told by gh15 what it takes to build a larger and lean body.other than protein poweder and mayber extra bcaa's quit wasting your time and money with garbage.

[Matt C]

Matt stop being stupid , you have been told by gh15 what it takes to build a larger and lean body.other than protein poweder and mayber extra bcaa's quit wasting your time and money with garbage.

Very true as far as muscle building is concerned.  But I still want to maintain my strength for my city's next powerlifting meet in October and I think I should have no problem doing that, especially if my food and water intake is increased between now and then.  I would like very much to win my class [under 200] and it is a definite possibility if I maintain or improve my best lifts.  I am shooting for a 335 bench and 475 deadlift at 180.

[Matt C]

Here is my workout from today:

Pec Deck: 6X12, 10X12, 12X12

Flat Bench Flyes: 40sX12, 60sX12, 60sX12

Wide Grip Bench: 185X12, 205X10, 225X8, 275 [fail], Drop set: 225X4, 135X8

Body weight Dips: 12, 15, 15

Immediately followed by 12 push-ups.

I used very controlled form and I believe the pre-exhaust principle worked very well and so did the wide grip!  I felt I achieved a great pump today.  Furthermore, the additional calories yesterday likely helped.  I only drank two litres of water yesterday and I am on par for that same level today [currently between 1-2 litres consumed].  I think I should be able to continue to increase my caloric and water intake to the point where I will be adjusted to 2,000 calories within 7-10 days.  I have found that the increased water intake has helped my appetite.

I honestly hope this works because it would really suck to not have a chest.  I don't mean to bash Romano or anything, it's just that when I saw his pictures I really wondered if a long time gym rat can be developed in most areas but not in the chest.  I would very much like to have a chest, not a massive one, but along the lines of Mark Wahlberg's former level would be great.  And lighting does make a difference [see second attached picture]:

[pellius]

Here is my workout from today:

Pec Deck: 6X12, 10X12, 12X12

Flat Bench Flyes: 40sX12, 60sX12, 60sX12

Wide Grip Bench: 185X12, 205X10, 225X8, 275 [fail], Drop set: 225X4, 135X8

Body weight Dips: 12, 15, 15

Immediately followed by 12 push-ups.

I used very controlled form and I believe the pre-exhaust principle worked very well and so did the wide grip!  I felt I achieved a great pump today.  Furthermore, the additional calories yesterday likely helped.  I only drank two litres of water yesterday and I am on par for that same level today [currently between 1-2 litres consumed].  I think I should be able to continue to increase my caloric and water intake to the point where I will be adjusted to 2,000 calories within 7-10 days.  I have found that the increased water intake has helped my appetite.

I honestly hope this works because it would really suck to not have a chest.  I don't mean to bash Romano or anything, it's just that when I saw his pictures I really wondered if a long time gym rat can be developed in most areas but not in the chest.  I would very much like to have a chest, not a massive one, but along the lines of Mark Wahlberg's former level would be great.  And lighting does make a difference [see second attached picture]:

I'm not sure what you mean by 6X12, 10X12, 12X12....  After warming up when someone tells me that they did 185 for 10, 205 for 10 and then 225 for 10 it tells me that at least the first 2 sets, if not all of them, were not done with any intensity. If you pick a weight, say 185lbs, and can do 8 reps, and despite your greatest to the death effort can't get the 9th rep how the hell will you be able to do 205 for 8 reps on your next set?

Also, just going by that routine, I would do flat bench after pec deck, and then do flys before doing dips. The pec deck pre exhaust the pecs so you'll be able to dig deeper on the pressing movement while you shoulders and triceps are still fresh. Then by going to the dumb flys you can continue working your pecs while resting your shoulders and tris and then hitting the compound dipping movement.

[Matt C]

I'm not sure what you mean by 6X12, 10X12, 12X12....  After warming up when someone tells me that they did 185 for 10, 205 for 10 and then 225 for 10 it tells me that at least the first 2 sets, if not all of them, were not done with any intensity. If you pick a weight, say 185lbs, and can do 8 reps, and despite your greatest to the death effort can't get the 9th rep how the hell will you be able to do 205 for 8 reps on your next set?

Oops!  My bad, it was:

185X12, 205X10, 225X8

And I completely agree with your statement above.  I guess I was on autopilot when I wrote those reps!  Each set was to failure but with no assisted reps.

[Vince B]

Here is my workout from today:

Pec Deck: 6X12, 10X12, 12X12

Flat Bench Flyes: 40sX12, 60sX12, 60sX12

Wide Grip Bench: 185X12, 205X10, 225X8, 275 [fail], Drop set: 225X4, 135X8

Body weight Dips: 12, 15, 15

Immediately followed by 12 push-ups.

I used very controlled form and I believe the pre-exhaust principle worked very well and so did the wide grip!  I felt I achieved a great pump today.  Furthermore, the additional calories yesterday likely helped.  I only drank two litres of water yesterday and I am on par for that same level today [currently between 1-2 litres consumed].  I think I should be able to continue to increase my caloric and water intake to the point where I will be adjusted to 2,000 calories within 7-10 days.  I have found that the increased water intake has helped my appetite.

I honestly hope this works because it would really suck to not have a chest.  I don't mean to bash Romano or anything, it's just that when I saw his pictures I really wondered if a long time gym rat can be developed in most areas but not in the chest.  I would very much like to have a chest, not a massive one, but along the lines of Mark Wahlberg's former level would be great.  And lighting does make a difference [see second attached picture]:

Matt, you have absolutely no clue about how to get bigger.

[Grape Ape]

Matt,

Look at Wahlberg's lower inner chest connects compared to yours.  There's nothing you can do to change that, and that's why the "shelf" will never happen.  Plus, there's nothing wrong with yours in the pic anyway.

Don't waste your time with stupid isolation bodybuiding movements, you're just spinning your wheels.  Play to your strengths.