Lee Priest and hormones

[buffdnet]

GH15 would have to compete, and become a pro first....

bench

this gentleman is spot on
spoken for truth

[theworm]

  He is comparing what he sees to what he would require to get to that point himself, just like anyone else would and everyone excepts that as fact.  Now I cant tell you who to believe but I was stating the only fact here.  One is a pro bodybuilder who uses his real name and has never sugar coated anything, always went against the grain and the other, a timid self proclaimed pro who has never granted any proof.   Im not saying gh15 doesnt spit some real shit but so many people on here just except his shit as fact now.  you all have become sheep.

going to agree with this.

why would Lee lie?  he has given so much inside information, almost enough to get him banned from pro BB!  

and even if he was lying, its good for most people's health.  so many 20 year old gym rats on a gram of test, tren, slin, etc, and they do not even compete!  so if people believe Lee, and use lower doses, that would be a positive.

i remember reading a lot of pros in the 80s using 400mg deca and 400mg test every 5 days (Jim Quin? it was? )  so maybe it can be done.

[Master Blaster]

going to agree with this.

why would Lee lie?  he has given so much inside information, almost enough to get him banned from pro BB!  

and even if he was lying, its good for most people's health.  so many 20 year old gym rats on a gram of test, tren, slin, etc, and they do not even compete!  so if people believe Lee, and use lower doses, that would be a positive.

i remember reading a lot of pros in the 80s using 400mg deca and 400mg test every 5 days (Jim Quin? it was? )  so maybe it can be done.

 

[War-Horse]

Use some common sense.   GH claims that lee is lieing to the kids about dosages. So if lee tells a kid you can go pro on 400mg deca and 400mg test.......but gh says you need 2000mg test, 1000mg tren, 1000mg eq, 20iu of gh, tons of slin.......Then who would do the most damage to the kids future and their health?  Easy...gh15 is a life wrecker not lee.

Now whats the motive for gh15 to want you to take ridiculous dosages?  Well, he claims he controls supply lines of steroids and can cutoff anyone he wants, (which is laughable)  So its easy to see that if kids catch on to these low dosages it would affect the money and sell of the gear......no wonder gh15 is pissed.   He doesnt want this stuff posted and sales to drop.......

Personally i think gh15 is a gimmick for entertainment anyway so it doesnt matter to lee or anyone real.

[lesaucer]

Use some common sense.   GH claims that lee is lieing to the kids about dosages. So if lee tells a kid you can go pro on 400mg deca and 400mg test.......but gh says you need 2000mg test, 1000mg tren, 1000mg eq, 20iu of gh, tons of slin.......Then who would do the most damage to the kids future and their health?  Easy...gh15 is a life wrecker not lee.

Now whats the motive for gh15 to want you to take ridiculous dosages?  Well, he claims he controls supply lines of steroids and can cutoff anyone he wants, (which is laughable)  So its easy to see that if kids catch on to these low dosages it would affect the money and sell of the gear......no wonder gh15 is pissed.   He doesnt want this stuff posted and sales to drop.......

Personally i think gh15 is a gimmick for entertainment anyway so it doesnt matter to lee or anyone real.

hey noob maybe if you would go in a gym one minute and talk to juicers and compare a 500mg test physique with a 1g test+other shit physique you will notice something.. more aas=more size. almost everything gh15 says is true

[WillGrant]

hey noob maybe if you would go in a gym one minute and talk to juicers and compare a 500mg test physique with a 1g test+other shit physique you will notice something.. more aas=more size. almost everything gh15 says is true

x2

And warhorse may I return you to Evo's post at the begining of this thread , this pretty much sums it up and makes it easy for you to understand.

I agree Lee is full of shit.  I have seen 'hyper responders' to gear, who will grow on literally fuck all, but they do not get anywhere near the level of muscularity, density or condition Lee has.  A few shots of test a week and a dash of anabolics will give them a physique most on here would be envious of, but no where near what it takes to earn a pro card.  

To attain a pro physique requires a lot of drugs, even if you are a hyper responder (as are most pros)!

[GroinkTropin]

After having been around bbing for most of my life I can honestly say you are a complete idiot if you believe what Lee Priest is saying. I saw a comparison earlier mocking the fact that Lee uses his real name online and GH15 does not- WHO THE FUCK CARES? Hey my name is really mike, does that mean I am bound to speak the truth at all times? Lee has admitted he shits on womens faces- he is involved in an industry where NOTHING is ever as it seems- how many lies circulate in bodybuilding and even powerlifting and strongman? Anyone remember Pudz being asked what his diet was and he said he eats chocolate like 6 times a day? There is no truth in these sports because the minute you are honest you might give a competitor the answer he had been looking for and thus an advantage against you. If you think for ONE SECOND Lee Priest is not taking massive massive amounts of winstrol and masteron to achieve that insane a level of hardness and grainyness you either do not understand pharmacology or you are just plain ignorant. He is a huge DHTer of that I have NO doubt. He might take lowish amounts of test I don't doubt that (precontest) but that he has never touched slin I call BULLSHIT that he takes 8 iu's of growth that's def possible- even at his biggest he never ever had a gut, not even in the slightest. Anadrol yeah like 4-5 per day before a show. I would put his winstrol around 200mgs ed and masteron to match. Can't say about much else but def gh def win def mast possibly anavar moderate test I do not doubt. I am 100% for sure the man is a liar on a regular basis it should come as no surprise he is lying about his drug usage.

[noworries]

GH15 would have to compete, and become a pro first....

bench

yes you are right

[Stavios]

After having been around bbing for most of my life I can honestly say you are a complete idiot if you believe what Lee Priest is saying. I saw a comparison earlier mocking the fact that Lee uses his real name online and GH15 does not- WHO THE FUCK CARES? Hey my name is really mike, does that mean I am bound to speak the truth at all times? Lee has admitted he shits on womens faces- he is involved in an industry where NOTHING is ever as it seems- how many lies circulate in bodybuilding and even powerlifting and strongman? Anyone remember Pudz being asked what his diet was and he said he eats chocolate like 6 times a day? There is no truth in these sports because the minute you are honest you might give a competitor the answer he had been looking for and thus an advantage against you. If you think for ONE SECOND Lee Priest is not taking massive massive amounts of winstrol and masteron to achieve that insane a level of hardness and grainyness you either do not understand pharmacology or you are just plain ignorant. He is a huge DHTer of that I have NO doubt. He might take lowish amounts of test I don't doubt that (precontest) but that he has never touched slin I call BULLSHIT that he takes 8 iu's of growth that's def possible- even at his biggest he never ever had a gut, not even in the slightest. Anadrol yeah like 4-5 per day before a show. I would put his winstrol around 200mgs ed and masteron to match. Can't say about much else but def gh def win def mast possibly anavar moderate test I do not doubt. I am 100% for sure the man is a liar on a regular basis it should come as no surprise he is lying about his drug usage.

great post

[pellius]

Use some common sense.   GH claims that lee is lieing to the kids about dosages. So if lee tells a kid you can go pro on 400mg deca and 400mg test.......but gh says you need 2000mg test, 1000mg tren, 1000mg eq, 20iu of gh, tons of slin.......Then who would do the most damage to the kids future and their health?  Easy...gh15 is a life wrecker not lee.

Now whats the motive for gh15 to want you to take ridiculous dosages?  Well, he claims he controls supply lines of steroids and can cutoff anyone he wants, (which is laughable)  So its easy to see that if kids catch on to these low dosages it would affect the money and sell of the gear......no wonder gh15 is pissed.   He doesnt want this stuff posted and sales to drop.......

Personally i think gh15 is a gimmick for entertainment anyway so it doesnt matter to lee or anyone real.

That's not how I would look at it. If I was a 15 year old kid and thinking about making a bodybuilding as a career and believed what the pros said: That if I trained like they say they do in the mags, use the supplements they push, and when the time comes I would use the dosages that Lee says he does -- you know, for the finishing touch. I would spend tons of money and years of training, maybe even put off, slack off or ignore all together getting an education chasing the dream. When I find out in my mid twenties, and if you are serious about competing you will eventually find out the truth, the role that drugs really do play. The hormones, peptides, direutics, daily multiple injections, synthol, IV bags?.... -- not to mention the corruption, schmoes, selling your soul to pay for your the drug habit you unwittingly developed over the years...

Maybe if I knew the truth from the beginning I would have given some serious thought, some second thought, to doing what needs to be done to become grotesquely muscular that the general population is repulse by and pose on stage for the small chance that I'll be rich and successful at the very real risk to my health. 

And of course, I'll have to live the lie and be a liar. I'll have to look at kids in the eye and tell them that if they train hard and take Muscle Tech products you too will have a chance to live the dream. At least if I want to keep my contract and income that will dry up very fast after I'm no longer relevant as a bodybuilder. 

[pellius]

BTW, I saw that someone had posted gh15's post on that thread that was referred to and also posted a separate "Message to Lee Priest" thread. Both have been deleted.

Ignore God of Hormones at your peril.

[GroinkTropin]

That's not how I would look at it. If I was a 15 year old kid and thinking about making a bodybuilding as a career and believed what the pros said: That if I trained like they say they do in the mags, use the supplements they push, and when the time comes I would use the dosages that Lee says he does -- you know, for the finishing touch. I would spend tons of money and years of training, maybe even put off, slack off or ignore all together getting an education chasing the dream. When I find out in my mid twenties, and if you are serious about competing you will eventually find out the truth, the role that drugs really do play. The hormones, peptides, direutics, daily multiple injections, synthol, IV bags?.... -- not to mention the corruption, schmoes, selling your soul to pay for your the drug habit you unwittingly developed over the years...

Maybe if I knew the truth from the beginning I would have given some serious thought, some second thought, to doing what needs to be done to become grotesquely muscular that the general population is repulse by and pose on stage for the small chance that I'll be rich and successful at the very real risk to my health. 

And of course, I'll have to live the lie and be a liar. I'll have to look at kids in the eye and tell them that if they train hard and take Muscle Tech products you too will have a chance to live the dream. At least if I want to keep my contract and income that will dry up very fast after I'm no longer relevant as a bodybuilder. 

This is a great post. I chased the dream too, dropped out of high school and only at 24 did i realize what a sham pro bbing is. GH15 speaking the truth is what people need. I honestly though Dorian was natural until I was 20 or so no lie. I just could not imagine he would *GASP* take steroids! What a crock of shit bodybuilding is.

[pellius]

This is a great post. I chased the dream too, dropped out of high school and only at 24 did i realize what a sham pro bbing is. GH15 speaking the truth is what people need. I honestly though Dorian was natural until I was 20 or so no lie. I just could not imagine he would *GASP* take steroids! What a crock of shit bodybuilding is.

Well, at least it wasn't a total waste of time. You still having bitching calves! And that goes a long way in the real world -- LOL!

We have to count our blessings, my friend. Count our blessings.

[GroinkTropin]

Well, at least it wasn't a total waste of time. You still having bitching calves! And that goes a long way in the real world -- LOL!

We have to count our blessings, my friend. Count our blessings.

I am thankful for many things and bbing gave me many positive things I will keep with me for the rest of me life. However, it was never worth an ounce of sacrifice. I spent most of high school locked away dreaming of looking like kevin levrone, ditching school and reading everything i could about protein shakes and what not. Working part time jobs to buy the latest creatine. I dropped out of high school and despite being a highly intellingent person opted not to go to college. I decided I had the goods to be a pro (which I do) and that was that. I didn't need to go to school or do anything but bodybuild. I quit taking it serious when I got sick off a high cycle of test. I weighed about 250 and a buddy online told me to try 2 grams a week. To this day I don't know why I did, at 240 I had never taken more than 800mgs test 400mgs deca weekly as a cycle. But looking back, I never cycled successfully. I would run stuff for a few weeks forget a shot, get lazy, forget another shot and then just stop. I decided to run 8 icn gelinkas a week and see where it got me. It put me in the hospital with a 103.8 fever. Turns out I had a dormant lung infection that came to life when the gear took a hit on my ummune system. I was so sick, and the anti-biotics killed the gear I was on. I did not work out or eat for nearly two weeks and within a month I was down to 220. Oddly enough that's where my body sits now, in the pics I posted I was about 220. My body hates to get lower than that, though it's pretty easy to get bigger. But anyway, bodybuilding would have been very different for me if gh15 had told me at 15 the real path I was choosing. I would have chosen more wisely. now I am in college and working to get my RN but I'm 30 instead of 20. I don't blame bodybuilding but I do resent the lies and time I have wasted.

[dyslexic]

I thought it was an accepted fact that the Pro BB's never talk about their true lives with anyone.

Can you imagine if Jay actually told everyone what he took to win the last Olympia?

What if these guys even started by telling what they REALLY eat and how they REALLY work out?

What if the little bitch clone "Flex Whatever" stopped pushing Gaspari products and told everyone that in reality, all supplements are a total fucking waste of time and money?

How many bodybuilders (non-pro) today looked at the covers of FLEX magazine 15 years (or 20?) ago and believed that they would someday look that way if they worked out hard enough?

I did.

Steroids in Professional Bodybuilding will always be a much better protected secret than in... oh, lets say, Pro Baseball....? The general public now uses the word "steroids" to apply to almost any athletic analogy, yet NOBODY can elaborate on what and how much anyone has ever used.


Maybe, someday... but as long as their possession carries along a felony offense, it ain't gonna happen anytime soon.

I personally wouldn't mind hearing what Chick uses these days.

How about the truth about what REALLY fucked up Tom Prince? It wasnt fucking Ibuprofen. Isn't that another "lie?"

[Vince B]

just like nastradomus i for-tell the end of steroids.  But seriously, i have explained it before, it was just a nickname given to me that was expanded upon.  Everyone is so quick to hug Gh15s jock but whenever someone else claims something they immediately regard it as fiction whereas his is fact.  I am pretty sure your lord and savior can tell what anyone is on just by looking at pictures.  He is comparing what he sees to what he would require to get to that point himself, just like anyone else would and everyone excepts that as fact.  Now I cant tell you who to believe but I was stating the only fact here.  One is a pro bodybuilder who uses his real name and has never sugar coated anything, always went against the grain and the other, a timid self proclaimed pro who has never granted any proof.  Im not saying gh15 doesnt spit some real shit but so many people on here just except his shit as fact now.  you all have become sheep.

Please learn how to use 'accept' instead of 'except'!

[GroinkTropin]

I thought it was an accepted fact that the Pro BB's never talk about their true lives with anyone.

Can you imagine if Jay actually told everyone what he took to win the last Olympia?

What if these guys even started by telling what they REALLY eat and how they REALLY work out?

What if the little bitch clone "Flex Whatever" stopped pushing Gaspari products and told everyone that in reality, all supplements are a total fucking waste of time and money?

How many bodybuilders (non-pro) today looked at the covers of FLEX magazine 15 years (or 20?) ago and believed that they would someday look that way if they worked out hard enough?

I did.

Steroids in Professional Bodybuilding will always be a much better protected secret than in... oh, lets say, Pro Baseball....? The general public now uses the word "steroids" to apply to almost any athletic analogy, yet NOBODY can elaborate on what and how much anyone has ever used.


Maybe, someday... but as long as their possession carries along a felony offense, it ain't gonna happen anytime soon.

I personally wouldn't mind hearing what Chick uses these days.

How about the truth about what REALLY fucked up Tom Prince? It wasnt fucking Ibuprofen. Isn't that another "lie?"

The stress on your kidneys from high BP is what took prince down. Got too big too fast, kidneys just could not handle it. Look at him off sauce, he's 175lbs. I am 220 and I barely work out. Some have the genes and some are ALL DRUGS. He was definitely all drugs.

[pellius]

I guess the question to ask, knowing what we now know about professional bodybuilding, would be if your teenage son seriously wanted to become a pro bodybuilder. What would you tell him?

[WillGrant]

I guess the question to ask, knowing what we now know about professional bodybuilding, would be if your teenage son seriously wanted to become a pro bodybuilder. What would you tell him?

G4P

[pellius]

G4P

LOL! What, no pic of a borderline preteen doing unspeakable things? You're getting lazy.

[Meso_z]

I guess the question to ask, knowing what we now know about professional bodybuilding, would be if your teenage son seriously wanted to become a pro bodybuilder. What would you tell him?

to pm gh15.

[GroinkTropin]

I guess the question to ask, knowing what we now know about professional bodybuilding, would be if your teenage son seriously wanted to become a pro bodybuilder. What would you tell him?

Pursue it while also pursuing other careers including a college education and probably a trade of some kind. If he could pursue bodybuilding while supporting a family I say go for it. Otherwise fuck no.

[WillGrant]

LOL! What, no pic of a borderline preteen doing unspeakable things? You're getting lazy.

I have been warned by Ron about posting pics of Females   , I know he has lost interest in the board but it will be just my luck he will log in lol and he will look at this thread with the mention of MD and Lee ..il go post one down on the V to make up for it att to you  

[WillGrant]

I have been warned by Ron about posting pics of Females   , I know he has lost interest in the board but it will be just my luck he will log in lol and he will look at this thread with the mention of MD and Lee ..il go post one down on the V to make up for it att to you  

Check the V..and add your own..

Back on track..Lee is a lying lil fucka 

[mesmorph78]

Mans ego is so fragile and insecure
lee priest came to my gym a couple yrs back managemnet started to close the gym so my session my session was cut short as I was getting my keys to leave before they started there drug seminar no interst to me.. The whole gym was practically muscle worshipping they guy... The next day I went to work out everyone was pissed because apparently lee wouldn't peel and what he said he good sounded increduliois
grown men near tears because some short midget didn't tell them what they wanted to hear. Weak minded pathetic fools same thing happeneing here. Pathetic