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"O Prophet! Make war against the unbelievers [all non-Muslims] and the hypocrites and be merciless against them. Their home is hell, an evil refuge indeed." (Koran, 9:73)


"When you meet the unbelievers in jihad [holy war], chop off their heads. And when you have brought them low, bind your prisoners rigorously. Then set them free or take ransom from them until the war is ended." (Koran, 47:4)


"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be to be killed or crucified, or to have their hands and feet chopped off on opposite sides, or to be expelled out of the land. Such will be their humiliation in the world, and in the next world they will face an awful horror." (Koran, 5:33-34)


"When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah's word is proven true against them, then we destroy them utterly." (Koran, 17:16-17)


"In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost." (Koran, 8:37)


"How many were the populations we utterly destroyed because of their sins, setting up in their place other peoples." (Koran, 21:11)


"Remember Allah inspired the angels: I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their fingertips off of them." (Koran, 8:12)

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Re: Actual verses from the Koran,the book of the religion of peace
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2010, 01:56:07 AM »
The KKK bible is called the Kloran.


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Re: Actual verses from the Koran,the book of the religion of peace
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2010, 02:33:36 AM »
lol and let's not forget the word "We" is used propheticaly in the Koran. Religion in general is pretty weird to be honest. I went to church with my dad and step mom in phoenix and they are catholic right. To start they have statues of the virgin mary and her husband? And they pray to these two, which is blasphemus, then to make it stranger they do the whole crackers and wine bit and my step mom says to me "oh you don't get to do communion, YOU'RE NOT CATHOLIC! And shuffles by me, i'm like OH SHIT, YOU JUST BROKE MY HEART. Keep in mind I have done communion plenty at the church I used to go to. it just cracks me up, she's in a special club that I'm not or something. Pretty fucking weird but I guess whatever gets you through your day...

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Re: Actual verses from the Koran,the book of the religion of peace
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2010, 02:45:16 AM »


get them while they're young, just put C4 in the futebol.  ::)

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Re: Actual verses from the Koran,the book of the religion of peace
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2010, 02:52:39 AM »
more white trash classic getbig racism/douchebaggery. I mean, i know its "teh internetz" but the racism/bigotry/sexism on getbig surprises me still.



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Re: Actual verses from the Koran,the book of the religion of peace
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2010, 03:00:45 AM »
before this thread goes any further, I think everyone should remember that Timothy McVeigh was a Christian

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Re: Actual verses from the Koran,the book of the religion of peace
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2010, 03:03:14 AM »
before this thread goes any further, I think everyone should remember that Timothy McVeigh was a Christian

Yes but his goal was not to kill americans, it was to ignite a revolution. His hope was that the backlash by the federal government would be too harsh and america would rebel against the government. He wasn't trying to kill christians or infidels or anything of that nature.

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Re: Actual verses from the Koran,the book of the religion of peace
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2010, 03:39:35 AM »
before this thread goes any further, I think everyone should remember that Timothy McVeigh was a Christian


Yes we know the old song "there is bad people in every religion, in every race " etc etc etc... ::)


It's the typical argument of socialist/democrat to avoid real debat about religion, race, it's a fog cloud.


Let's get serious and don't deviate from the orginal thread about the blatant danger of islam.  
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Re: Actual verses from the Koran,the book of the religion of peace
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2010, 03:47:49 AM »

Yes we know the old song "there is bad people in every religion, in every race " etc etc etc... ::)


It's the typical argument of socialist/democrat to avoid real debat about religion, race, it's a fog cloud.


Let's get serious and don't deviate from the orginal thread about the blatant danger of islam. 

Only religion that is spreading like a virus and in which it's slaves demand to be treated under sharia law and not the law of the land (depending on what country they are in). Let's see if this makes sense- move from some shithole in pakistan to london, demand to not obey the laws of london. Makes sense to me! Oh wait...

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Re: Actual verses from the Koran,the book of the religion of peace
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2010, 04:14:10 AM »
religion of peace...............we need to start being more sensitive to the idiosyncrasies that make their religion unique ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Actual verses from the Koran,the book of the religion of peace
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2010, 04:20:33 AM »
The KKK bible is called the Kloran.


Funny how a bunch of Southern terrorists think that they are "Knights". It's soo odd how we Americans like to distance ourselves from the Euros, yet cling to  Romantic  Euro ideals and personas like "knights" and "royalty", referring to the JFKs admin as "Camelot".

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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2010, 04:27:06 AM »

Yes we know the old song "there is bad people in every religion, in every race " etc etc etc... ::)


It's the typical argument of socialist/democrat to avoid real debat about religion, race, it's a fog cloud.


Let's get serious and don't deviate from the orginal thread about the blatant danger of islam.  

This shit is such a joke. I'm no fan of immigrants but to think that Islamic imigrants  are any different from any other group is nonsense.  The chinese are way scarier, there unified got money, are a powerhouse of the future and they don't give a shit about us. Chirstian/muslim is the same dam thing there no difference. I got christian and muslim friends and they pretty much agree on everything, they even talk about the same parts of the bible.

It's funny must american's don't even realize that the koran is basically an extension of the bible. It's the same dam religion.

I don't love immigrants, but this complete ignorance of islam is getting really fucking annoying it's the same dam religion.

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Re: Actual verses from the Koran,the book of the religion of peace
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2010, 04:43:23 AM »
This shit is such a joke. I'm no fan of immigrants but to think that Islamic imigrants  are any different from any other group is nonsense.  The chinese are way scarier, there unified got money, are a powerhouse of the future and they don't give a shit about us. Chirstian/muslim is the same dam thing there no difference. I got christian and muslim friends and they pretty much agree on everything, they even talk about the same parts of the bible.

It's funny must american's don't even realize that the koran is basically an extension of the bible. It's the same dam religion.

I don't love immigrants, but this complete ignorance of islam is getting really fucking annoying it's the same dam religion.

The big problem with the Chinese, once you show you don't give a shit about other people, countries, etc, people will start to hate you...and let's face it, China doesn't want to test others on their soil. They try to placate others like Africans, but quiet as kept, they are killing Chinese people over in Ghana and other African countries because of the Chinese "attitude".

One of the things about America that makes it great, is that we pride ourselves in being a bastion of freedom expression and compassion.

Do you think China would give a shit if some big disaster happens in Russia? No, because they see that as a another competitor that has gotten weaker, and China let's the US be the policeman and the ER...if China really wants to be a leader, then they are gonna have to step up and lead where it counts, nobody likes a greedy, selfish hoarding bitch...And a greedy, selfish, hoarding bitch usually gets consumed in their own vices, think Smedel from Lord of The Rings.

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Re: Actual verses from the Koran,the book of the religion of peace
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2010, 04:58:50 AM »
before this thread goes any further, I think everyone should remember that Timothy McVeigh was a Christian

That bastard was not a Christian; he was an agnostic, belonged to no church, and cited no biblical passages for what he did.  He considered himself to be a patriot who opposed the Federal Government’s actions at Waco and Ruby Ridge.   

That any fringe Christian group would laud his evil works is not evidence that he was a Christian.  He went to a Catholic Church when he was younger but dropped out as he grew older.

He prattles on like some Newsweek or Time opinion piece journalist spouting moral equivalencies. Read interviews of him and read what that fucker wrote:   

http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/mcveigh/okcaug98.htm

An Essay on Hypocrisy
By Timothy McVeigh
The administration has said that Iraq has no right to stockpile chemical or biological weapons ("weapons of mass destruction") -- mainly because they have used them in the past.

Well, if that"s the standard by which these matters are decided, then the U.S. is the nation that set the precedent. The U.S. has stockpiled these same weapons (and more) for over 40 years. The U.S. claims that this was done for deterrent purposes during the "Cold War" with the Soviet Union. Why, then is it invalid for Iraq to claim the same reason (deterrence) -- with respect to Iraq"s (real) war with, and the continued threat of, its neighbor Iran?

The administration claims that Iraq has used these weapons in the past. We"ve all seen the pictures that show a Kurdish woman and child frozen in death from the use of chemical weapons. But, have you ever seen these pictures juxtaposed next to pictures from Hiroshima or Nagasaki?

I suggest that one study the histories of World War I, World War II and other "regional conflicts" that the U.S. has been involved in to familiarize themselves with the use of "weapons of mass destruction."

Remember Dresden? How about Hanoi? Tripoli? Baghdad? What about the big ones -- Hiroshima and Nagasaki? (At these two locations, the U.S. killed at least 150,000 non-combatants -- mostly women and children -- in the blink of an eye. Thousands more took hours, days, weeks, or months to die.)

If Saddam is such a demon, and people are calling for war crimes charges and trials against him and his nation, why do we not hear the same cry for blood directed at those responsible for even greater amounts of "mass destruction" -- like those responsible and involved in dropping bombs on the cities mentioned above?
The truth is, the U.S. has set the standard when it comes to the stockpiling and use of weapons of mass destruction.

Hypocrisy when it comes to death of children? In Oklahoma City, it was family convenience that explained the presence of a day-care center placed between street level and the law enforcement agencies which occupied the upper floors of the building. Yet when discussion shifts to Iraq, any day-care center in a government building instantly becomes "a shield." Think about that.
(Actually, there is a difference here. The administration has admitted to knowledge of the presence of children in or near Iraqi government buildings, yet they still proceed with their plans to bomb -- saying that they cannot be held responsible if children die. There is no such proof, however, that knowledge of the presence of children existed in relation to the Oklahoma City bombing.)

When considering morality and mens rea [criminal intent] in light of these facts, I ask: Who are the true barbarians?

Yet another example of this nation"s blatant hypocrisy is revealed by the polls which suggest that this nation is greatly in favor of bombing Iraq.
In this instance, the people of the nation approve of bombing government employees because they are "guilty by association" -- they are Iraqi government employees. In regard to the bombing in Oklahoma City, however, such logic is condemned.

What motivates these seemingly contradictory positions? Do people think that government workers in Iraq are any less human than those in Oklahoma City? Do they think that Iraqis don"t have families who will grieve and mourn the loss of their loved ones? In this context, do people come to believe that the killing of foreigners is somehow different than the killing of Americans?

I recently read of an arrest in New York City where possession of a mere pipe bomb was charged as possession of a "weapon of mass destruction." If a two pound pipe bomb is a "weapon of mass destruction," then what do people think that a 2,000-pound steel-encased bomb is?

I find it ironic, to say the least, that one of the aircraft that could be used to drop such a bomb on Iraq is dubbed "The Spirit of Oklahoma."

When a U.S. plane or cruise missile is used to bring destruction to a foreign people, this nation rewards the bombers with applause and praise. What a convenient way to absolve these killers of any responsibility for the destruction they leave in their wake.

Unfortunately, the morality of killing is not so superficial. The truth is, the use of a truck, a plane, or a missile for the delivery of a weapon of mass destruction does not alter the nature of the act itself.

These are weapons of mass destruction -- and the method of delivery matters little to those on the receiving end of such weapons.

Whether you wish to admit it or not, when you approve, morally, of the bombing of foreign targets by the U.S. military, you are approving of acts morally equivalent to the bombing in Oklahoma City. The only difference is that this nation is not going to see any foreign casualties appear on the cover of Newsweek magazine.

It seems ironic and hypocritical that an act viciously condemned in Oklahoma City is now a "justified" response to a problem in a foreign land. Then again, the history of United States policy over the last century, when examined fully, tends to exemplify hypocrisy.

When considering the use of weapons of mass destruction against Iraq as a means to an end, it would be wise to reflect on the words of the late U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis. His words are as true in the context of Olmstead as they are when they stand alone: "Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example."
Sincerely

Timothy J. McVeigh

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Re: Actual verses from the Koran,the book of the religion of peace
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2010, 05:00:33 AM »

One of the things about America that makes it great, is that we pride ourselves in being a bastion of freedom expression and compassion.

Do you think China would give a shit if some big disaster happens in Russia? No, because they see that as a another competitor that has gotten weaker, and China let's the US be the policeman and the ER...if China really wants to be a leader, then they are gonna have to step up and lead where it counts, nobody likes a greedy, selfish hoarding bitch...And a greedy, selfish, hoarding bitch usually gets consumed in their own vices, think Smedel from Lord of The Rings.
To act like America is a better world player is a joke. They do very little good and when they do it it's usually for profits of the corporations.

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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2010, 05:06:35 AM »
I think there is evidence to suggest Timothy McViegh wasn't a christian. He was interviewed and made statements to that effect.

Secondly, before we get to bent out of shape over scriptures plucked out of context from a religious book, people should be intellectually honest with themselves if they are christian and recognize that horrendous verses can be pulled from the bible appearing to make Jews and Christians appear bloodthirsty as well..

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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2010, 05:07:24 AM »
To act like America is a better world player is a joke. They do very little good and when they do it it's usually for profits of the corporations.
The American people give a hell of a lot. For the Tsunami in Indonesia for example. To say that America is not a better world player than China is a worse joke...

Hell, I wonder why all these immigrants, illegal and legal want to come and live in this country?

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Re: Actual verses from the Koran,the book of the religion of peace
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2010, 05:09:02 AM »
You should read some of the bullshit in the Old Testament - it says pretty much the same as the Koran.

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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2010, 05:15:40 AM »
I think there is evidence to suggest Timothy McViegh wasn't a christian. He was interviewed and made statements to that effect.

Secondly, before we get to bent out of shape over scriptures plucked out of context from a religious book, people should be intellectually honest with themselves if they are christian and recognize that horrendous verses can be pulled from the bible appearing to make Jews and Christians appear bloodthirsty as well..

There's no need to go and search in religious books. The whole history of Judeo-Christian monotheisms is of conquest, mass murdering, theocratic lunacy, etc...Only the jews as they don't have the desire to expand have limited the casualties. Chirstianism has been extremely agressive 'til it got kicked in the balls specially with and after the French Revolution. Christianism would have never surrendered its position had it not been obliged to do it.

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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2010, 05:27:32 AM »
The American people give a hell of a lot. For the Tsunami in Indonesia for example. To say that America is not a better world player than China is a worse joke...

Hell, I wonder why all these immigrants, illegal and legal want to come and live in this country?
Um well they have to due to politics, they still give way less per capita than any country in europe. At the same time please look into some history. During the cold war america fucked with every country under the sun. In the name of democracy. Ever second government in the middle east and latin america, at some point in the last 50 years was overthrown by american backed coup. At the same time american banks have fucked every country untouched by the cia. Gave military training to many as well. The war in Iraq which was mad possible by Dick Cheney, who somehow forget he was no longer working for Haliburton when he gave them billions of dollars worth of reconstruction contracts. Just look at the civil war in liberia, where one side were trained as american reservist. I could go on all day about this shit, but you'll deny responsibility regardless.

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Re: Actual verses from the Koran,the book of the religion of peace
« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2010, 05:35:02 AM »
Um well they have to due to politics, they still give way less per capita than any country in europe. At the same time please look into some history. During the cold war america fucked with every country under the sun. In the name of democracy. Ever second government in the middle east and latin america, at some point in the last 50 years was overthrown by american backed coup. At the same time american banks have fucked every country untouched by the cia. Gave military training to many as well. The war in Iraq which was mad possible by Dick Cheney, who somehow forget he was no longer working for Haliburton when he gave them billions of dollars worth of reconstruction contracts. Just look at the civil war in liberia, where one side were trained as american reservist. I could go on all day about this shit, but you'll deny responsibility regardless.

But the difference is, we do it with love..

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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2010, 05:46:32 AM »
All religions belong in the garbage can of nonsense belief systems. That doesn't stop billions from believing such nonsense. Humans are individually quite ignorant and ordinary. No wonder they use other people to think for them. Most societies believe they are right whereas others are wrong and mistaken. Thus, we have disagreements and wars.

Didn't George Bush say 'God bless America'? The only way to defeat ignorance and nonsense is with enlightenment and knowledge. That won't happen in our lifetimes. Look at how many dopes on Getbig believe rubbish about extraterrestrials, etc. I detect many believers here, too, which is predictable.

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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2010, 05:52:36 AM »
All religions belong in the garbage can of nonsense belief systems. That doesn't stop billions from believing such nonsense. Humans are individually quite ignorant and ordinary. No wonder they use other people to think for them. Most societies believe they are right whereas others are wrong and mistaken. Thus, we have disagreements and wars.

Didn't George Bush say 'God bless America'? The only way to defeat ignorance and nonsense is with enlightenment and knowledge. That won't happen in our lifetimes. Look at how many dopes on Getbig believe rubbish about extraterrestrials, etc. I detect many believers here, too, which is predictable.

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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2010, 06:29:00 AM »
Survival is one of our strongest basic instincts. The typical human being does not want to die and normally will avoid it at all costs. Religious belief is our way of avoiding the inevitable, at least in our minds. What better way to avoid death than to believe it is a new beginning and "life" continues on.. 

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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2010, 06:30:44 AM »
All religions belong in the garbage can of nonsense belief systems. That doesn't stop billions from believing such nonsense. Humans are individually quite ignorant and ordinary. No wonder they use other people to think for them. Most societies believe they are right whereas others are wrong and mistaken. Thus, we have disagreements and wars.

Didn't George Bush say 'God bless America'? The only way to defeat ignorance and nonsense is with enlightenment and knowledge. That won't happen in our lifetimes. Look at how many dopes on Getbig believe rubbish about extraterrestrials, etc. I detect many believers here, too, which is predictable.

Everyone has beliefs, some believe in a 2000 year old book, some believe genetics is everything, some people believe science will solve all our problems, some believe in democracy, some people believe there country isn't as bad as the rest :p, some believe in global warming will kill us all and some believe the world's a nice place. Point is  beliefs don't make you stupid, Being people make you stupid.