Can you build some muscle while your cutting.

[War-Horse]

Ok so i have some gear on the way.  This is my first cycle so remember..

weeks 1-6  200mg eq  ew
weeks 1-6  250mcg oral tren (with liver support) daily
weeks 7-10 400mg eq only  ew
weeks 10-16  50mg winstrol  daily
weeks 10-16  back to 200mg eq  ew

Full pct will be on hand, and im going to try t3 on staggered weeks.

Ill have to cut on 2500 calories a day, 1000 below my maintenece.    no cardio until i need it.  My goal is to save the muscle i have which is alot, but lose the fat is more important.    Any advice guys?

[tstmaniac]

Run the EQ at 400mgs the entire cycle...get rid of the oral tren.IMO that shit is garbage because its very toxic and tren is no good for a first cycle...throw in some test with your EQ

[War-Horse]

The reason i never used steroids is because ive had cyctic acne all my life. and im naturally thick skinned and heavily muscled. Therefore i dont want to mess with test...the side effects would be too much so im staying away from aromatizing gear, the eq is slight but will be knocked down by the hardener of the tren and winny.


Let me ask it this way:     Have you guys lost alot of muscle on a subcalorie diet while on gear vs off gear.......i just want to keep the muscle while i diet, thats the only reason im going to use this stuff.  What % of muscle to fat loss has the juice given you in the real world?

[flinstones1]

I just made a thread asking the same thing in the nutrition section.

I would think that with enough protein that when on such strong powerful drugs like trenbalone that muscle growth would be possible but then again there is the group that says muscle growth is impossible without a caloric surplus. I think it would be better to ask someone who has prepped for a show when running the compounds mentioned in this thread whether any muscle mass was gained while cutting.

[lesaucer]

im on 500test,400eq, 350tren, 50dbol.. eating 4000+cals every day.. up 20lbs so far and leaner.. so yes it is possible

[benchmstr]

absolutely possible....

bench

[kevinf]

Levrone does it, why cant we

[benchmstr]

Levrone does it, why cant we

so did every one in the arnold era...

bench

[War-Horse]

Chris aceto said he had to take troy alves down to 1800 -2000 cals a day to get him shredded and this was for months.  He lost no muscle and looked great so i guess gear is the magic bullet for keeping mass on sub calories.   All my other shows have been drug free and i lost 30lbs of muscle each time to get ripped....(plus 30-40lbs of fat) Dieting as a natty is a nightmare.....offseason is ok.

This is why im going to use some gear for this coming season 2011 and see the difference it makes..

[tbombz]

you can build a little bit of muscle, but you cant grow anywhere near as fast as you could grow while in a calorie surplus.