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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #75 on: August 30, 2010, 12:54:38 PM »
i find it interesting that you respect / listen to GH15, an anonymous idiot on this message board, but have such a poor opinion of Basile.  Of the two of them, Basile actually has verified who he is, what he accomplished in bbing back in the day, owns his own gym, created his own equipment, etc.  GH15 is a gimmick board idiot who is most likely a closet homo like the rest that have been exposed over the past years. 

i would call someone who actually takes GH15s advice seriously "delusional" 


I want to make a serious comment on this post. When reading anything, whether about training, philosophy, self-help books, diet..., for all practical purposes the person is anonymous to you. When I first read a book by Arthur Jones' I had no idea who he was and when I did find out his name I found out he had no formal education in exercise science. But I did ask myself if a lot of things he said made sense. In my case, the answer was yes. That below a certain threshold of intensity exercise will do little or nothing to stimulate and adaptive response. After all, if you are doing things that are already easy why or what would your body adapt too?

Vince, whom I respect, believes that proper training and nutrition (60 grams of protein/max) is all that is required to stimulate, in his words, hypertrophy. Anybody who has been training seriously, experimenting with various protocols, realize that this is simply not the case. Vince has never done it on himself (he consider, falsely, that age is no barrier) or on anybody else. There is a reason why it is so difficult to build muscle mass beyond normal levels. Your body simply does not want it and given the slightest reason will get rid of it. It's the desire to conserve energy and muscle requires continuous metabolic support even at rest.

My experiences with advance bodybuilders is though their training regimes do in fact vary, not only among each other, but among themselves as well as they vary duration, frequency and intensity in their routines that after a certain point, say five years of serious training, they will not make any noticeable improvements in their physiques. Their look may vary depending on diet, looking thin and more defined or looking fat and bigger -- but no real quantitative and qualitative changes in muscle mass. It's when they turn to drugs that things start to make a real difference. gh15, whomever he is, rants on drug use makes sense to me. The only time I've ever seen anybody really make a difference in their body is when they take drugs. And when they reach a plateau they increase the dose and keep on gaining. And guys like Moody, Faldo, Rodriguez... simply lie.

That makes more sense to me than some secret hypertrophy training system and 60 grams of protein a day.
 

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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #76 on: August 30, 2010, 12:59:46 PM »
great post pellius

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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #77 on: August 30, 2010, 02:49:29 PM »
I want to make a serious comment on this post. When reading anything, whether about training, philosophy, self-help books, diet..., for all practical purposes the person is anonymous to you. When I first read a book by Arthur Jones' I had no idea who he was and when I did find out his name I found out he had no formal education in exercise science. But I did ask myself if a lot of things he said made sense. In my case, the answer was yes. That below a certain threshold of intensity exercise will do little or nothing to stimulate and adaptive response. After all, if you are doing things that are already easy why or what would your body adapt too?

Vince, whom I respect, believes that proper training and nutrition (60 grams of protein/max) is all that is required to stimulate, in his words, hypertrophy. Anybody who has been training seriously, experimenting with various protocols, realize that this is simply not the case. Vince has never done it on himself (he consider, falsely, that age is no barrier) or on anybody else. There is a reason why it is so difficult to build muscle mass beyond normal levels. Your body simply does not want it and given the slightest reason will get rid of it. It's the desire to conserve energy and muscle requires continuous metabolic support even at rest.

My experiences with advance bodybuilders is though their training regimes do in fact vary, not only among each other, but among themselves as well as they vary duration, frequency and intensity in their routines that after a certain point, say five years of serious training, they will not make any noticeable improvements in their physiques. Their look may vary depending on diet, looking thin and more defined or looking fat and bigger -- but no real quantitative and qualitative changes in muscle mass. It's when they turn to drugs that things start to make a real difference. gh15, whomever he is, rants on drug use makes sense to me. The only time I've ever seen anybody really make a difference in their body is when they take drugs. And when they reach a plateau they increase the dose and keep on gaining. And guys like Moody, Faldo, Rodriguez... simply lie.

That makes more sense to me than some secret hypertrophy training system and 60 grams of protein a day.
 


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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #78 on: August 30, 2010, 04:04:28 PM »
i find it interesting that you respect / listen to GH15, an anonymous idiot on this message board, but have such a poor opinion of Basile.  Of the two of them, Basile actually has verified who he is, what he accomplished in bbing back in the day, owns his own gym, created his own equipment, etc.  GH15 is a gimmick board idiot who is most likely a closet homo like the rest that have been exposed over the past years. 

i would call someone who actually takes GH15s advice seriously "delusional" 


If you really believe Basile's story about his 2 dbol a day use maximum it's alright bro

Not saying he didn't look good, I think he had a very good physique back in the days.


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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #79 on: August 30, 2010, 04:30:02 PM »
Wiggs aren't you a short guy like myself?  Around 5'6" if I remember reading right at one point?  I'm not bothering being exact but just glancing over your plans you're around 2 grams total a week.  Again, I just glanced over it.  Why, would you go that high from your starting point especially when you are untrained now it sounds like.  Two things I would say is 1) there is a point with juice of no greater returns.  For me that was over 800-900 mgs depending on what I was taking.  Anything over that and hair would show up in the drain, bloated face, acne, high bp, and usually achey everywhere.  Why not at least build your way up and figure out at one point dosage wise you are wasting your money?  2) If you haven't been trainging wtf would you just get on the juice right away?  Your strength will go up way to fast for your joints, tendons, and ligaments to be happy about it and might cause some damage.  Moreover, you're completely throwing away a good 3 months of natural muscle memory gains that you would get for FREE!


Anyway, looks like a good cycle.  I am onboard with others that say that much time on T3 is playing with fire though.  You may have just been lucky cuz of your youth doing it in the past and got away with it.  Being over 30 now you have to have noticed differences in how your body acts, responds, and rebounds from a variety of things.  It's going to suck if this is one of those things.  Also, just go ahead and do the GH all the way thru dude.

In closing, I remember that feeling of planning out the "perfect cycle" and thinking about how you're going to feel and look while on.  I'm sure you're xcited as hell.   It is a fun thing to loook forward to.  Good luck and be safe!

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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #80 on: August 30, 2010, 07:11:26 PM »
Wiggs aren't you a short guy like myself?  Around 5'6" if I remember reading right at one point?  I'm not bothering being exact but just glancing over your plans you're around 2 grams total a week.  Again, I just glanced over it.  Why, would you go that high from your starting point especially when you are untrained now it sounds like.  Two things I would say is 1) there is a point with juice of no greater returns.  For me that was over 800-900 mgs depending on what I was taking.  Anything over that and hair would show up in the drain, bloated face, acne, high bp, and usually achey everywhere.  Why not at least build your way up and figure out at one point dosage wise you are wasting your money?  2) If you haven't been trainging wtf would you just get on the juice right away?  Your strength will go up way to fast for your joints, tendons, and ligaments to be happy about it and might cause some damage.  Moreover, you're completely throwing away a good 3 months of natural muscle memory gains that you would get for FREE!


Anyway, looks like a good cycle.  I am onboard with others that say that much time on T3 is playing with fire though.  You may have just been lucky cuz of your youth doing it in the past and got away with it.  Being over 30 now you have to have noticed differences in how your body acts, responds, and rebounds from a variety of things.  It's going to suck if this is one of those things.  Also, just go ahead and do the GH all the way thru dude.

In closing, I remember that feeling of planning out the "perfect cycle" and thinking about how you're going to feel and look while on.  I'm sure you're xcited as hell.   It is a fun thing to loook forward to.  Good luck and be safe!


That's an excellent post.  Thanks I'm just under 5'10 but you are correct. After viewing everyones comments I feel I may have made a decision in haste.  I will stay on everything but lower all doses more than likely.  There is no reason for anyone to fear t-3, those were all rumors about t-3  f'n up the thyroid, that is a myth that has been debunked.
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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #81 on: August 30, 2010, 07:17:10 PM »
That's an excellent post.  Thanks I'm just under 5'10 but you are correct. After viewing everyones comments I feel I may have made a decision in haste.  I will stay on everything but lower all doses more than likely.  There is no reason for anyone to fear t-3, those were all rumors about t-3  f'n up the thyroid, that is a myth that has been debunked.
i think you should just simplify your cycle...you can run a cycle with less compounds(not less mg's) and get the same results...

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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #82 on: August 30, 2010, 07:28:53 PM »
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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #83 on: August 30, 2010, 07:45:27 PM »
Thank goodness that engineering, science and facts don't depend on the beliefs of muscleheads. I am no longer amazed at what guys who lift weights believe. Most of the time they embrace stuff picked up in the gym or via the magazines and now the internet. Like many other enterprises and hobbies a lot of the so-called web of knowledge available isn't solid. There are many beliefs circulating in gyms that are false. Free weights are superior is one such false belief. That doesn't stop legions of knuckleheads lifting those silly dumbbells and barbells. That is what they believe and that is what they will continue to believe and take to their graves.

Hapless Pellius is a genuine soul living in Hawaii. How many of us would like to live there, too, and have a perpetual summer and sunshine all the time? He has embraced the martial arts and this is important to him and something he values. When he competes he does so in weight classes so it pays to be strong but not heavy. That way you avoid fighting monsters who are like supermen. I imagine many bodybuilders also value having some definition and therefore seldom let themselves get fat. Therein lies a huge restriction or limit to hypertrophy. Such blokes will almost never gain much size or weight. If these guys are single then they also use up a lot of energy running around, etc.

The main limitation to most guys who train hard is getting sufficient calories to grow. If they lack calories then no amount of protein will help. These hapless 'hard gainers' then believe they need steroids to grow. When they try some gear they don't grow! Conclusion? They don't have the genetics! I doubt that anyone here knows what his genetic potential is. If you train properly and eat enough then you should grow. If you are not growing rapidly then you either are not training properly or are not eating enough or both.

The formula is simple but is probably beyond the rank Getbiggers who have their heads up the asses of pseudo experts like gh15. Most here are uninformed so wouldn't know a true theory if it fell on their head.

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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #84 on: August 30, 2010, 07:49:12 PM »
Thank goodness that engineering, science and facts don't depend on the beliefs of muscleheads. I am no longer amazed at what guys who lift weights believe. Most of the time they embrace stuff picked up in the gym or via the magazines and now the internet. Like many other enterprises and hobbies a lot of the so-called web of knowledge available isn't solid. There are many beliefs circulating in gyms that are false. Free weights are superior is one such false belief. That doesn't stop legions of knuckleheads lifting those silly dumbbells and barbells. That is what they believe and that is what they will continue to believe and take to their graves.

Hapless Pellius is a genuine soul living in Hawaii. How many of us would like to live there, too, and have a perpetual summer and sunshine all the time? He has embraced the martial arts and this is important to him and something he values. When he competes he does so in weight classes so it pays to be strong but not heavy. That way you avoid fighting monsters who are like supermen. I imagine many bodybuilders also value having some definition and therefore seldom let themselves get fat. Therein lies a huge restriction or limit to hypertrophy. Such blokes will almost never gain much size or weight. If these guys are single then they also use up a lot of energy running around, etc.

The main limitation to most guys who train hard is getting sufficient calories to grow. If they lack calories then no amount of protein will help. These hapless 'hard gainers' then believe they need steroids to grow. When they try some gear they don't grow! Conclusion? They don't have the genetics! I doubt that anyone here knows what his genetic potential is. If you train properly and eat enough then you should grow. If you are not growing rapidly then you either are not training properly or are not eating enough or both.

The formula is simple but is probably beyond the rank Getbiggers who have their heads up the asses of pseudo experts like gh15. Most here are uninformed so wouldn't know a true theory if it fell on their head.

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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #85 on: August 30, 2010, 07:51:36 PM »
Thank goodness that engineering, science and facts don't depend on the beliefs of muscleheads. I am no longer amazed at what guys who lift weights believe. Most of the time they embrace stuff picked up in the gym or via the magazines and now the internet. Like many other enterprises and hobbies a lot of the so-called web of knowledge available isn't solid. There are many beliefs circulating in gyms that are false. Free weights are superior is one such false belief. That doesn't stop legions of knuckleheads lifting those silly dumbbells and barbells. That is what they believe and that is what they will continue to believe and take to their graves.

Hapless Pellius is a genuine soul living in Hawaii. How many of us would like to live there, too, and have a perpetual summer and sunshine all the time? He has embraced the martial arts and this is important to him and something he values. When he competes he does so in weight classes so it pays to be strong but not heavy. That way you avoid fighting monsters who are like supermen. I imagine many bodybuilders also value having some definition and therefore seldom let themselves get fat. Therein lies a huge restriction or limit to hypertrophy. Such blokes will almost never gain much size or weight. If these guys are single then they also use up a lot of energy running around, etc.

The main limitation to most guys who train hard is getting sufficient calories to grow. If they lack calories then no amount of protein will help. These hapless 'hard gainers' then believe they need steroids to grow. When they try some gear they don't grow! Conclusion? They don't have the genetics! I doubt that anyone here knows what his genetic potential is. If you train properly and eat enough then you should grow. If you are not growing rapidly then you either are not training properly or are not eating enough or both.

The formula is simple but is probably beyond the rank Getbiggers who have their heads up the asses of pseudo experts like gh15. Most here are uninformed so wouldn't know a true theory if it fell on their head.

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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #86 on: August 30, 2010, 08:01:11 PM »

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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #87 on: August 30, 2010, 08:20:59 PM »
Ditch the deca and go with EQ.

Get protein up to 700g's a day ( fish, beef & chicken ) lots of good fats and grow!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I've been thinking about it for a long while and I've decided I'm going to do one last cycle.  Why?


Well in almost all my other cycles, I've done something wrong whether it be fake or underdosed gear, shitty cycle do to lack of knowledge or whatever else.  I've had a couple great ones which provided outstanding results...Anywho, I'm 31 now (first cycle was at 19 and was 200mg norma deca and 200mg Schering Primo for 8 weeks) it was ok for considering what I was taking...

With this being my last cycle, I'm going all in minus 'slin.  It's been since 07 that I've done a cycle and it was the best I've ever looked. I was on 750mg test p, 400mg eq, 4 iu of GH, then t-3, and clen all for 12 weeks.  I was looking pretty awesome.  Confidence was up feeling of well being was incredible.

My dream cycle will be split into two parts...Some of the things I tell you in here, many won't agree with, and to you I say thank you for for your concern but I know what I'm doing...I'm still considering enlisting the help of IFBB Pro Art Atwood as we spoke at the USAs and he told me to e-mail him. I like what he did with Jason Huh and he keeps his clientel list small and no cookie cutter BS...

So what are my goals?  My goal is to be 215-220lbs at hit 6% bf. From there I'll determine if I feel I have the "stuff" to compete (I do). The first 12 weeks will look like this:

Weeks 1-12 – Sustanon (human grade) – 500mg -1g
Weeks 1-12 – Deca (human grade) 400mg  - 600mg
Weeks 1- 6 – D-bol (Human grade) 30mg – 60mg
Weeks 3- 12 Proviron (Human grade) 50mg-100mg ED
Weeks 2- 12 HCG (Human grade) 500iu once a week
Weeks 3-12 Arimidex or Femera



Weeks 13 – 24 – Test E (human grade) – 1g – 1250mg
Weeks 13-24 – Eq (Gen Pharm) 400 mg – 600mg
Weeks 13 -24 Masteron (Gen Pharm) 300mg – 600mg
Weeks 13 -24 Parabolin (Gen Pharm) 300mg – 500mg
Weeks 13 – 24 4-6 i.u. GH hygetropin
Weeks 1– 24  t-3 (Human Grade) up to 120mcg
Weeks 13-24 Proviron (Human grade) 50mg-100mg ED
Weeks 13-24 HCG (Human grade) 500iu once a week
Weeks 13-24 Arimidex or Femera
Weeks 13 – 24 Bromocriptin 2.5 – 5mg ED to control prolactin levels while on Parabolin
Weeks ???? At some point I will use DNP  I will use low dose for longer period vs high dose for short period…
After the cycle I will use standard PCT, clomid, Nolvadex and HCG…Obviously this is a lot of shit and many will say all drugs.  Because this is a lot of shit, and I haven’t done anything in so long and I think I respond to drugs much better than your average fella, the results will be dramatic.  I’m not much of an eater so I might have to use an appetite stimulant but not weed cause weed makes me not want to work out.

I will provide before pics, and pics periodically during the 24 week journey, I’ll let you all know the training, cardio etc…While many will say that’s a lot of shit, I understand this, and I’ll probably be on as much shit as your average NPC fella, no more fucking around, time to up the dosage.  It’s going to be really interesting…Let the games begin…
I'll start in a couple weeks...

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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #88 on: August 30, 2010, 08:46:17 PM »
i find it interesting that you respect / listen to GH15, an anonymous idiot on this message board, but have such a poor opinion of Basile.  Of the two of them, Basile actually has verified who he is, what he accomplished in bbing back in the day, owns his own gym, created his own equipment, etc.  GH15 is a gimmick board idiot who is most likely a closet homo like the rest that have been exposed over the past years. 

i would call someone who actually takes GH15s advice seriously "delusional" 


Please list the pieces of advice Basile has given out here which helped you in any way. Go ahead, I really want to hear this.

Do YOU know what kind of training routine Basile would recommend? Because no one else here does.

Basile is the biggest retard this board has ever seen. I'd sooner take advice from Goodrum than Basile, not that Basile ever gives advice as much as say "everyone is an expert" sarcastically.

The Getbig board Holy Trinity of Retards: Basile, Howard and Goodrum, and you're apparently a disciple. Congratulations.

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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #89 on: August 30, 2010, 08:50:44 PM »
I've been thinking about it for a long while and I've decided I'm going to do one last cycle.  Why?


Well in almost all my other cycles, I've done something wrong whether it be fake or underdosed gear, shitty cycle do to lack of knowledge or whatever else.  I've had a couple great ones which provided outstanding results...Anywho, I'm 31 now (first cycle was at 19 and was 200mg norma deca and 200mg Schering Primo for 8 weeks) it was ok for considering what I was taking...

With this being my last cycle, I'm going all in minus 'slin.  It's been since 07 that I've done a cycle and it was the best I've ever looked. I was on 750mg test p, 400mg eq, 4 iu of GH, then t-3, and clen all for 12 weeks.  I was looking pretty awesome.  Confidence was up feeling of well being was incredible.

My dream cycle will be split into two parts...Some of the things I tell you in here, many won't agree with, and to you I say thank you for for your concern but I know what I'm doing...I'm still considering enlisting the help of IFBB Pro Art Atwood as we spoke at the USAs and he told me to e-mail him. I like what he did with Jason Huh and he keeps his clientel list small and no cookie cutter BS...

So what are my goals?  My goal is to be 215-220lbs at hit 6% bf. From there I'll determine if I feel I have the "stuff" to compete (I do). The first 12 weeks will look like this:

Weeks 1-12 – Sustanon (human grade) – 500mg -1g
Weeks 1-12 – Deca (human grade) 400mg  - 600mg
Weeks 1- 6 – D-bol (Human grade) 30mg – 60mg
Weeks 3- 12 Proviron (Human grade) 50mg-100mg ED
Weeks 2- 12 HCG (Human grade) 500iu once a week
Weeks 3-12 Arimidex or Femera



Weeks 13 – 24 – Test E (human grade) – 1g – 1250mg
Weeks 13-24 – Eq (Gen Pharm) 400 mg – 600mg
Weeks 13 -24 Masteron (Gen Pharm) 300mg – 600mg
Weeks 13 -24 Parabolin (Gen Pharm) 300mg – 500mg
Weeks 13 – 24 4-6 i.u. GH hygetropin
Weeks 1– 24  t-3 (Human Grade) up to 120mcg
Weeks 13-24 Proviron (Human grade) 50mg-100mg ED
Weeks 13-24 HCG (Human grade) 500iu once a week
Weeks 13-24 Arimidex or Femera
Weeks 13 – 24 Bromocriptin 2.5 – 5mg ED to control prolactin levels while on Parabolin
Weeks ???? At some point I will use DNP  I will use low dose for longer period vs high dose for short period…
After the cycle I will use standard PCT, clomid, Nolvadex and HCG…Obviously this is a lot of shit and many will say all drugs.  Because this is a lot of shit, and I haven’t done anything in so long and I think I respond to drugs much better than your average fella, the results will be dramatic.  I’m not much of an eater so I might have to use an appetite stimulant but not weed cause weed makes me not want to work out.

I will provide before pics, and pics periodically during the 24 week journey, I’ll let you all know the training, cardio etc…While many will say that’s a lot of shit, I understand this, and I’ll probably be on as much shit as your average NPC fella, no more fucking around, time to up the dosage.  It’s going to be really interesting…Let the games begin…
I'll start in a couple weeks...

stop doing shit so complicated. keep it simple IMO; 6ius gh, 1.5g test e, 600mg eq, 400mg tren, 50-60mg dbol + anti e and hcg+nolva pct.
also dont forget melanotan 2 for the whores... o wait

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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #90 on: August 30, 2010, 09:11:56 PM »
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Please list the pieces of advice Basile has given out here which helped you in any way. Go ahead, I really want to hear this.

Do YOU know what kind of training routine Basile would recommend? Because no one else here does.

Basile is the biggest retard this board has ever seen. I'd sooner take advice from Goodrum than Basile, not that Basile ever gives advice as much as say "everyone is an expert" sarcastically.

The Getbig board Holy Trinity of Retards: Basile, Howard and Goodrum, and you're apparently a disciple. Congratulations.

Fucking OUCH van, that's brutal.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #91 on: August 30, 2010, 09:14:39 PM »
Van Bilderass is another guy who acts like he is knowledgeable but is merely critical of others and has no real hypertrophy knowledge whatsoever. That doesn't stop him from being a self-styled expert. Wait, he is gh15 approved!

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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #92 on: August 30, 2010, 09:17:18 PM »
Van Bilderass is another guy who acts like he is knowledgeable but is merely critical of others and has no real hypertrophy knowledge whatsoever. That doesn't stop him from being a self-styled expert. Wait, he is gh15 approved!
Maybe I missed it but have you ever given any kind of training advice or have you just knocked down other peoples advice?
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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #93 on: August 30, 2010, 09:19:03 PM »
Van Bilderass is another guy who acts like he is knowledgeable but is merely critical of others and has no real hypertrophy knowledge whatsoever. That doesn't stop him from being a self-styled expert. Wait, he is gh15 approved!

Van forgot more about building muscle and getting strong than you will ever know.

Van = legit badass

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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #94 on: August 30, 2010, 09:20:17 PM »
Van Bilderass is another guy who acts like he is knowledgeable but is merely critical of others and has no real hypertrophy knowledge whatsoever. That doesn't stop him from being a self-styled expert. Wait, he is gh15 approved!

''hypertrophy knowledge'' loloololoool

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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #95 on: August 31, 2010, 02:30:33 AM »
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« Reply #96 on: August 31, 2010, 02:41:41 AM »
Van Bilderass is another guy who acts like he is knowledgeable but is merely critical of others and has no real hypertrophy knowledge whatsoever. That doesn't stop him from being a self-styled expert. Wait, he is gh15 approved!


what an awful, sickening pathetic old man you are


is this really what you should be doing with your golden years??


you are probably the oldest person on here by two decades, i just picture a lonely, fat, hairy old man scrambling to log on to an internet forum populated by people 30 and 40 years his junior.


does this not make you want to end it...............you terrible old ghoul

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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #97 on: August 31, 2010, 04:36:27 AM »
One last completely unnecessary crazy experiment and for what? Save your body and integrity and stop destroying yourself. Too much pot smoking has fried your brain and taken away your drive. Now you believe you need drugs. A sorry conclusion by a Getbig wannabe.

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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #98 on: August 31, 2010, 06:03:34 AM »
Van Bilderass is another guy who acts like he is knowledgeable but is merely critical of others and has no real hypertrophy knowledge whatsoever. That doesn't stop him from being a self-styled expert. Wait, he is gh15 approved!
Hehe. Van is one of the measured and phlegmatic members of this board. I can't remember him ever losing his cool with anyone. Congratulations Vince. Your cloying obtuseness pushed him over the edge.  ;D

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Re: I'm all in fellas...
« Reply #99 on: August 31, 2010, 06:39:01 AM »
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