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August 30, 2010
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GOP Takes Unprecedented 10-Point Lead on Generic BallotRepublicans also maintain wide gap in enthusiasm about votingby Frank NewportPRINCETON, NJ -- R

epublicans lead by 51% to 41% among registered voters in Gallup weekly tracking of 2010 congressional voting preferences. The 10-percentage-point lead is the GOP's largest so far this year and is its largest in Gallup's history of tracking the midterm generic ballot for Congress.

These results are based on aggregated data from registered voters surveyed Aug. 23-29 as part of Gallup Daily tracking. This marks the fifth week in a row in which Republicans have held an advantage over Democrats -- one that has ranged between 3 and 10 points.

The Republican leads of 6, 7, and 10 points this month are all higher than any previous midterm Republican advantage in Gallup's history of tracking the generic ballot, which dates to 1942. Prior to this year, the highest such gap was five points, measured in June 2002 and July 1994. Elections in both of these years resulted in significant Republican gains in House seats.

Large leads on the generic ballot are not unprecedented for Democrats. The widest generic ballot lead in Gallup's history was 32 points in the Democrats' favor, measured in July 1974, just prior to Republican President Richard Nixon's resignation over the Watergate scandal. This large margin illustrates Democrats' historic dominance over Republicans in registered voters' party identification in the decades since World War II. Democrats controlled the House of Representatives continually between 1955 and 1995, and routinely held generic ballot leads in the double digits during that period.

Republicans Have 25-Point Lead on Enthusiasm

Republicans are now twice as likely as Democrats to be "very" enthusiastic about voting, and now hold -- by one point -- the largest such advantage of the year.

Republicans usually turn out in higher numbers in midterm elections than do Democrats, and Gallup's likely voter modeling in the final weeks of an election typically reflects a larger GOP advantage than is evident among registered voters. The wide enthusiasm gaps in the GOP's favor so far this year certainly suggest that this scenario may well play itself out again this November.

Bottom Line

The last Gallup weekly generic ballot average before Labor Day underscores the fast-evolving conventional wisdom that the GOP is poised to make significant gains in this fall's midterm congressional elections. Gallup's generic ballot has historically proven an excellent predictor of the national vote for Congress, and the national vote in turn is an excellent predictor of House seats won and lost. Republicans' presumed turnout advantage, combined with their current 10-point registered-voter lead, suggests the potential for a major "wave" election in which the Republicans gain a large number of seats from the Democrats and in the process take back control of the House. One cautionary note: Democrats moved ahead in Gallup's generic ballot for several weeks earlier this summer, showing that change is possible between now and Election Day.

Explore more Gallup data relating to the upcoming congressional midterm elections, including Gallup's complete generic ballot trend since 1950, in our Election 2010 key indicators interactive.

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If nothing else, I am actively campaigning and volunteering my time to cock block Barry and make his marxist ass a lame duck. 

Payback is a bitch. 

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Re: Gallup - Democrats set for historic beatdown in November 2010 Midterms.
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2010, 02:01:41 PM »
According to 240 it has nothing to do with Obama,its just the way the pendullum swings.Ha,ha,ha.

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Re: Gallup - Democrats set for historic beatdown in November 2010 Midterms.
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2010, 02:05:13 PM »
According to 240 it has nothing to do with Obama,its just the way the pendullum swings.Ha,ha,ha.

the dems are going to start running for the hills by Friday and the September jobs number hits.  I'm hearing 9.9% and 10.1% in october.

If that is the case, I see Barry possibly resigning or simply telling the left to fuck off so he can save himself.  I don't think he will do that, but its a possibility.     

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Re: Gallup - Democrats set for historic beatdown in November 2010 Midterms.
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2010, 03:39:00 PM »
According to 240 it has nothing to do with Obama,its just the way the pendullum swings.Ha,ha,ha.

If obama had gotten NOTHING done, repubs would be yelling just as loudly.

The fact is, Obama accomplished most of his goals, which pissed off a lot of people.

It's that simple.  Repubs were gonna bitch even if obama laid down and said "Whatever you say guys". 

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Re: Gallup - Democrats set for historic beatdown in November 2010 Midterms.
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2010, 06:20:12 PM »
If obama had gotten NOTHING done, repubs would be yelling just as loudly.

The fact is, Obama accomplished most of his goals, which pissed off a lot of people.

It's that simple.  Repubs were gonna bitch even if obama laid down and said "Whatever you say guys". 

240 - notice the trend lines though. 

The Dems are going to get wiped off the map.   Feingold, Murray, Boxer, are probably gone. 

Driving around CT I saw "Linda" signs everywhere.

Rubio is going to win, Rand is going to win, and I even think Angle will win solely from the tide in the governors; race where Reid's son is getting destroyed. 

I just wish the GOP ran Peter King v. Gillibrand in my state since that is another disgusting communist bitch that needs to go.

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Re: Gallup - Democrats set for historic beatdown in November 2010 Midterms.
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2010, 06:22:43 PM »
pendulum swings.  it's good news - washington will get very little done for the next 2 years.


6 years, if palin runs and giftwraps a second obama terms.  Anyone else, obama will lose.

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Re: Gallup - Democrats set for historic beatdown in November 2010 Midterms.
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2010, 08:12:21 PM »
Capital Connection  Washington UB professor predicts House will go to RepublicansBy Robert J. McCarthy

NEWS POLITICAL REPORTER

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August 29 2010, 12:00 AM


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A University at Buffalo political scientist with a sterling record of prognosticating presidential elections is predicting that Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will turn over her gavel to the GOP come January.

The presiding Democrats stand to lose about 51 seats in November, says James E. Campbell, professor of political science at UB. His prediction stems from a crystal ball filled with scientific equations based on polling and current events, all pointing to a stunning reversal of fortune for Democrats, who took over the House in 2006.

“After two election setbacks, they are poised for a comeback,” Campbell says of Republicans. “Partisanship, ideology, the midterm decline from the prior presidential surge, the partisanship of districts being defended, and even President Obama’s approval ratings have set the stage for significant seat gains by Republicans in the House.”

In a paper he will deliver this week to the American Political Science Association meeting in Washington, Campbell analyzes a variety of political elements that he plugs into his final equation. They include:

• Polls pointing to a more conservative mood throughout the country.
• The suggestion that Democrats are “overexposed” and hold more seats than usual, thus leaving more seats in trouble.

• Cooperation with the Cook Political Report compiled by veteran Washington analyst Charlie Cook, which handicaps congressional elections across the country. Campbell calls Cook’s past analyses “impressive.”

• Presidential approval and its influence in previous midterm elections.

Campbell has used much of the same methodology to predict presidential elections with significant success. Now he uses variables specific to the House to bolster his contention that voters will pull more Republican levers.

“In June 2010, 42 percent of respondents told Gallup that they were conservatives, while 20 percent claimed to be liberals, and 35 percent said they were moderates,” he said. “The nearly even division in partisanship and the conservative tilt in ideology suggest that the current equilibrium in the electorate is far more Republican than the status quo in the House.”

Campbell does not dismiss what he sees in “tea party” rallies.

“Polls, primary turnouts, the emergence of the tea party movement, and Republican victories in 2009 [including Scott Brown’s 2010 Senate win in Massachusetts] are unmistakable stirrings of a revitalized right,” he concluded.

He also says Democrats may be a victim of their own success. While they scored significant gains in 2006 and 2008, they must now defend 47 seats in districts carried by George W. Bush in 2004 and John McCain in 2008.

And Campbell also notes that Obama’s slide in the polls stands in contrast to the coattails he provided congressional candidates in 2008.

“Although President Obama is not unpopular at this point [his approval ratings stand in the mid- 40s], neither does he have the strong approval ratings that would provide much help to his party in staving off significant midterm losses,” Campbell said.

“There is still an outside chance the Democrats could hold on,” he said Saturday.

Rep. Brian Higgins, D-Buffalo, called such “formulaic modeling more academic than practical.”

“The events that will influence the midterm election have not yet occurred,” he said. “Anybody who believes the status quo was sustainable is kidding themselves.”

Rep. Louise M. Slaughter, D-Fairport, declined to comment

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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2010, 08:17:30 PM »
Capital Connection  Washington UB professor predicts House will go to RepublicansBy Robert J. McCarthy

NEWS POLITICAL REPORTER

Published:
August 29 2010, 12:00 AM


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A University at Buffalo political scientist with a sterling record of prognosticating presidential elections is predicting that Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will turn over her gavel to the GOP come January.

The presiding Democrats stand to lose about 51 seats in November, says James E. Campbell, professor of political science at UB. His prediction stems from a crystal ball filled with scientific equations based on polling and current events, all pointing to a stunning reversal of fortune for Democrats, who took over the House in 2006.

“After two election setbacks, they are poised for a comeback,” Campbell says of Republicans. “Partisanship, ideology, the midterm decline from the prior presidential surge, the partisanship of districts being defended, and even President Obama’s approval ratings have set the stage for significant seat gains by Republicans in the House.”

In a paper he will deliver this week to the American Political Science Association meeting in Washington, Campbell analyzes a variety of political elements that he plugs into his final equation. They include:

• Polls pointing to a more conservative mood throughout the country.
• The suggestion that Democrats are “overexposed” and hold more seats than usual, thus leaving more seats in trouble.

• Cooperation with the Cook Political Report compiled by veteran Washington analyst Charlie Cook, which handicaps congressional elections across the country. Campbell calls Cook’s past analyses “impressive.”

• Presidential approval and its influence in previous midterm elections.

Campbell has used much of the same methodology to predict presidential elections with significant success. Now he uses variables specific to the House to bolster his contention that voters will pull more Republican levers.

“In June 2010, 42 percent of respondents told Gallup that they were conservatives, while 20 percent claimed to be liberals, and 35 percent said they were moderates,” he said. “The nearly even division in partisanship and the conservative tilt in ideology suggest that the current equilibrium in the electorate is far more Republican than the status quo in the House.”

Campbell does not dismiss what he sees in “tea party” rallies.

“Polls, primary turnouts, the emergence of the tea party movement, and Republican victories in 2009 [including Scott Brown’s 2010 Senate win in Massachusetts] are unmistakable stirrings of a revitalized right,” he concluded.

He also says Democrats may be a victim of their own success. While they scored significant gains in 2006 and 2008, they must now defend 47 seats in districts carried by George W. Bush in 2004 and John McCain in 2008.

And Campbell also notes that Obama’s slide in the polls stands in contrast to the coattails he provided congressional candidates in 2008.

“Although President Obama is not unpopular at this point [his approval ratings stand in the mid- 40s], neither does he have the strong approval ratings that would provide much help to his party in staving off significant midterm losses,” Campbell said.

“There is still an outside chance the Democrats could hold on,” he said Saturday.

Rep. Brian Higgins, D-Buffalo, called such “formulaic modeling more academic than practical.”

“The events that will influence the midterm election have not yet occurred,” he said. “Anybody who believes the status quo was sustainable is kidding themselves.”

Rep. Louise M. Slaughter, D-Fairport, declined to comment








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Re: Gallup - Democrats set for historic beatdown in November 2010 Midterms.
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2010, 08:20:19 PM »
does anyone else buy into the pendulum theory yet?  And in another 6 or 8 years, it'll be people so sick of the repubs and ready for dems in congress again.  (Once financial responsibility returns and the welfare state mindset goes away).

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Re: Gallup - Democrats set for historic beatdown in November 2010 Midterms.
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2010, 08:29:30 PM »
That vile psychopath Pelosi going will be the first step towards fixing this country.

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Re: Gallup - Democrats set for historic beatdown in November 2010 Midterms.
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2010, 08:39:40 PM »
does anyone else buy into the pendulum theory yet?  And in another 6 or 8 years, it'll be people so sick of the repubs and ready for dems in congress again.  (Once financial responsibility returns and the welfare state mindset goes away).

240, if you go back to when Barry was elected, I said the exact same thing when people like you (and James Carville) and others proclaimed that the Democrats would reign for 100 years with impunity. This has been happening for the last few decades like clockwork and it will continue to happen until ( if ever) there is a party that has both the Presidency and both houses where most of those elected are centrists and the country is stable and doing well financially. If that ever happened for a sustained period of time, there would be a virtual stranglehold of dominance enjoyed by one party.

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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2010, 08:42:10 PM »
That vile psychopath Pelosi going will be the first step towards fixing this country.

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Re: Gallup - Democrats set for historic beatdown in November 2010 Midterms.
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2010, 09:02:49 PM »
the dems are going to start running for the hills by Friday and the September jobs number hits.  I'm hearing 9.9% and 10.1% in october.

If that is the case, I see Barry possibly resigning or simply telling the left to fuck off so he can save himself.  I don't think he will do that, but its a possibility.     

If it hits "officially" 10% again, that "@$$-whippin' of biblical proportions" that Michael Moore stated would happen to the Democrats is pretty much etched in stone.

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Re: Gallup - Democrats set for historic beatdown in November 2010 Midterms.
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2010, 09:12:10 PM »
Democrats' Generic Ballot Poll Numbers Drop
First Posted: 08-30-10 06:19 PM   |   Updated: 08-30-10 06:19 PM
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Two national polls released today and over the weekend report very different results leading to very different conclusions:

On Friday, under the headline "Democrats May Not Be Headed for Midterm Bloodbath," Newsweek reported results from a new national poll of registered voters showing Americans evenly split (45% to 45%) on the question of whether they would vote for the Democratic or Republican candidate for Congress in their district.

This afternoon, Gallup released another national survey of registered voters, also conducted last week, showing Republicans with an "unprecedented 10-point lead" (51% to 41%), the largest Republican advantage Gallup has measured in its nearly sixty years of tracking the so-called "generic ballot."

So what's going on?

Much of the gaping difference between the two polls is probably explained by the usual random variation that affects all polls. Use your mouse to poke around our interactive chart (posted below), and you will soon discover that the latest Gallup survey result is more favorable for the Republicans than most, the Newsweek poll is similarly more favorable for the Democrats and that both fall within the typical range of variation, amounting to +/- three or four points from the trend line. Our overall trend estimate based on all of the available polls gives Republicans a 5.2 percentage point advantage (46.8% to 41.6%)

We could obsess further over the consistent differences ("house effects") among pollsters, but what is far more important, is that the averages show a GOP lead that has been trending in the Republican direction all summer. That trend is consistent with the historical pattern identified here on Friday by political scientists Joe Bafumi, Bob Erikson and Chris Wlezien, the "electorate's tendency in past midterm cycles to gravitate further toward the "out" party over the election year."

Moreover, you see the same trend even if we drop all Newsweek and Gallup polls, plus all of the Internet-based surveys and automated surveys (including Rasmussen), and focus only on the remaining live-interviewer telephone surveys, as in the chart below. The margin for the Republicans is virtually identical (46.6% to 41.4%).

So while the "unprecedented 10-point lead" reported by Gallup probably exaggerates the Republican lead, any result showing a net Republican advantage on the so-called generic ballot is bad news for Democrats. Bafumi and his colleagues estimated their 50-seat gain for the Republicans assuming a two-point advantage for Republicans on the generic ballot, which they project will widen to a six-point lead by November. If the Republican lead on the generic ballot is already that wide (or close), their projection for the Democrats would worsen.

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Re: Gallup - Democrats set for historic beatdown in November 2010 Midterms.
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2010, 05:27:47 AM »
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By Jay Cost
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August 31, 2010 Health Care Reform Has Endangered the Democratic Majority
This Politico piece by Jim VandeHei, Alex Isenstadt, and Mike Allen got a lot of play last week:


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Top Democrats are growing markedly more pessimistic about holding the House, privately conceding that the summertime economic and political recovery they were banking on will not likely materialize by Election Day.

In conversations with more than two dozen party insiders, most of whom requested anonymity to speak candidly about the state of play, Democrats in and out of Washington say they are increasingly alarmed about the economic and polling data they have seen in recent weeks.

They no longer believe the jobs and housing markets will recover -- or that anything resembling the White House's promise of a "recovery summer" is under way. They are even more concerned by indications that House Democrats once considered safe -- such as Rep. Betty Sutton, who occupies an Ohio seat that President Barack Obama won with 57 percent of the vote in 2008 -- are in real trouble.

There is no mention of health care reform in this piece. The economy is referenced several times. So is the President's inability to control the narrative. Even the Ground Zero Mosque is mentioned as a reason why the House is now in jeopardy. But not health care.

It has become conventional wisdom that the decline of the Democrats has mostly to do with the economy and little - if anything - to do with health care. This is Jonathan Alter from Saturday:

Health-care reform was seen by many cable chatterers as shaping the outcome of the November midterm elections but almost certainly won't. Nor will the flap over the planned mosque and Islamic center near Ground Zero. To make sure, Obama defended the constitutional principle at stake, but backed off on the specific siting. Why get tied down by another hot-button distraction, especially one that keeps the Muslim story alive in ways that help no one but the media? The collapse of the Greek economy, by contrast, is an example of something real, not hyped by cable news, whose reverberations first spoiled Obama's PR plan for a "Recovery Summer" and now could sink the Democrats in the midterms.

So, Greek economy, yes. Health care...no?

This meme is wrong. The Democrats' control of the House did not become tenuous recently. At best, some of the more immediate warning signs - e.g. individual incumbents like Betty Sutton now appear to be in jeopardy - have manifested themselves recently. But there has been a real danger of losing the House for some time, a danger that predates "Recovery Summer" and goes back to the health care debate.

First of all, the fact that the health care bill is no longer the topic du jore does not mean it is no longer an issue. The real questions are whether the health care bill moved voters away from the Democrats, and whether those voters have since moved back now that the debate is over. The answers are yes - the debate moved voters away from the Democrats; and no - the voters have not come back.

Here is the 2009-2010 track of the RCP generic ballot average:

This metric historically has a Democratic tilt, yet it showed the two parties at parity a year ago. That was, you will recall, after Democratic incumbents were excoriated at town hall meetings all summer. Only about 40% of people supported the bill at that point. With the President's late summer speech to Congress, the Democratic generic ballot numbers ticked up, but the GOP pulled back to within even of the Democrats by mid-November, when the House was debating the bill.

All of this happened during the Third and Fourth Quarters of 2009, when GDP finally turned positive then jumped up by 5.0%.

It is very hard to win the House of Representatives when you lose the House popular vote. And the polls have suggested for a year that Democrats were in danger of doing just that.

It is also very hard to win the House of Representatives when Independents bolt to the other side en masse. Republicans and Democrats split Independents in the 2004 House elections. In 2006 they went for the Democrats by 18 points. They went for the Democrats by 8 points in 2008.

In Gallup's most recent polling, President Obama won the approval of just 40% of Independent adults. That's deep in the danger zone, and the President has been in trouble with Independents for some time. Independent adults have given him less than 50% approval in the Gallup poll since November, 2009. Again, that's when the economy was growing and the health care debate was on the front page. And that is among all adults. Among likely voters, Rasmussen found around that time that 60% of Independents disapproved of the President's performance, with 45% strongly disapproving.

We can also point to the 2009 off-year gubernatorial elections in Virginia and New Jersey, which occurred during the health care debate. Democrats suffered massive defections among Independent voters, bringing Republicans to victory in both states. Something similar happened in the Massachusetts Senate election. Republicans do not win New England Senate seats by bringing the conservative base out to the polls! Scott Brown is a United States Senator today because Independents in the Bay State were unhappy with the course the national government had been taking.

Partisans on both sides tell themselves stories about why they're up, why they're down, and why the other side is where it is. These stories usually contain at least a grain of truth, but they also help encourage ideologues in the face of an impending rejection by the electorate. Democrats ignored the political problem of health care in the fall and winter - arguing that Martha Coakley and Creigh Deeds were bad candidates, that voters had been turned off by the health care bill because of the process, and that they would come around once the many benefits kicked in. Now, they're pointing to the economy as the only significant reason why the party is in trouble.

It would be difficult for any strong partisan to admit that such an accomplishment was so deeply unpopular. Yet the polling is pretty unequivocal on the relationship between the Democrats' fortunes and the health care bill. It was during the health care debate that the essential building block of the Democratic majority - Independent voters - began to crumble. It was evident in the generic ballot. It was evident in the President's job approval numbers. It was evident in Virginia, New Jersey, and Massachusetts.

Reconstructing the Democrats' meme, we can fairly say that the economy is a huge problem for the party. Of this, there can be no doubt. We can also say that the stalled recovery denied the Democrats a chance to win back the voters they lost over health care. But the process and passage of health care reform were crucial elements in the story. That's when the party started losing the voters it needs to retain control of the government.

-Jay Cost


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Re: Gallup - Democrats set for historic beatdown in November 2010 Midterms.
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2010, 05:42:35 AM »
This guy is a big lib and even he is forecasting a tsunami.

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I don’t usually like to comment on individual polls. Most of the time, when a poll produces an “unusual” result, it simply reflects random noise and the best advice is to wait for the next edition of the poll to come along, when more often than not it will revert to its previous position.

The poll stealing the headlines this morning is from Gallup, and for good reason: it gives the Republicans a whopping 10-point lead on the generic ballot. This is, in fact, an all-time record for the Republicans: Gallup has been conducting this survey for almost 70 years, and Republicans have never managed to have quite that large of an edge before.

The poll is probably an outlier of sorts, by which I mean that were you to take the exact same survey and put it into the field again — but interview 1,450 different registered voters, instead of the ones Gallup happened to survey — you would not likely find the G.O.P. with as large as a 10-point advantage. This week’s Rasmussen Reports generic ballot survey actually bounced back toward the Democrats somewhat (although still showing them with a 6-point deficit); polling averages have them trailing by around 5 points instead; and there was no specific news event last week that would have warranted such a large shift in voter preferences.

Still, even if the poll is an outlier, that doesn’t mean it should simply be dismissed. Instead, the question is: an outlier relative to what? If the Democrats’ true deficit on the generic ballot were 5 points, it would not be all that unusual to have a poll now and then that showed them trailing by 10-points instead, nor would it be so strange for a couple polls to show the race about tied. Indeed, that seems to be about where the generic ballot sits now. No non-Internet survey has shown the Democrats with a lead larger than 1 point on the generic ballot for over a month now, whereas their worst results of late seem to put them in the range of 10-11 points behind.

This is not the situation the Democrats’ faced earlier this summer, when the generic ballot was closer to even. Back then, a 5-point Republican lead on the generic ballot would have been pretty big news; now, it seems to be the new normal. I don’t say this cavalierly: FiveThirtyEight tracks the generic ballot pretty obsessively, as it’s used in several ways in our forecasting models, and the Democrats’ numbers have almost certainly undergone some further deterioration over the past few weeks.

Making matters worse still for Democrats, Gallup’s survey — and some other generic ballot polls — are still polling registered rather than likely voters, whereas its polls of likely voters are generally more reliable in midterm elections. At FiveThirtyEight, we’ve found that the gap between registered and likely voter polls this year is about 4 points in the Republicans’ favor — so a 10-point lead in a registered voter poll is the equivalent of about 14 points on a likely-voter basis. Thus, even if this particular Gallup survey was an outlier, it’s not unlikely that we’ll begin to see some 8-, 9-, 10-point leads for Republicans in this poll somewhat routinely once Gallup switches over to a likely voter model at some point after Labor Day — unless Democrats do something to get the momentum back.

The “good news” for the Democrats is that the generic ballot almost certainly isn’t the only metric you should look at when forecasting midterm elections, and the other salient statistical indicators, while poor for Democrats, are not quite this poor. More on that when we release our House model, which is forthcoming very soon.

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Re: Gallup - Democrats set for historic beatdown in November 2010 Midterms.
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2010, 05:42:54 AM »
pendulum swings.  it's good news - washington will get very little done for the next 2 years.


6 years, if palin runs and giftwraps a second obama terms.  Anyone else, obama will lose.

Thats exactly what we want NOTHING to get done!!!!When nothing gets done the private sector is free to grow.Government kills everything!!!We need them to ALL go away and leave us alone!!

Now,once again you keep defending Obama.He has governed against the will of the American people.Name one thing he has done that had public support.One thing.Health care?Nope.GM bailout?Nope.Strimulus?Nope.This man rules against the will of the American people.

As the republicans did by putting us into unpopular wars,when you rule against Americans your out.Obama will cause this party to be out of power for years and as soon as the health care piece of shit law goes into effect it might be thirty or forty years.Even blacks will get pissed off if they cant get to a doctor.Thanks you democrats.

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Re: Gallup - Democrats set for historic beatdown in November 2010 Midterms.
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2010, 02:40:55 PM »
Democrats face midterm meltdown
By Edward Luce in Washington

Source: Financial Times


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Barack Obama’s Democratic party faces a series of dramatic defeats at every level of government in Washington and beyond in the November midterm elections, according to leading analysts and opinion polls.

The University of Virginia’s widely monitored Crystal Ball will on Wednesday forecast sweeping setbacks on Capitol Hill and the loss of a clutch of state governorships on November 2.

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Obama struggles to convince voters - Aug-30.Obama: Popularity peaks and troughs - Aug-26.Opinion: Obama is right on China - Aug-30.View from DC videos - Nov-11.In depth: The Obama presidency - Aug-06.In depth: US states of emergency - Jul-27..It follows a Gallup poll that showed the Republicans with a 10 percentage point lead over the Democrats – the widest margin in 68 years. Separately, a University of Buffalo paper has predicted a 51-seat gain for Republicans in November.

The Democrats have a 39-seat majority in the House of Representatives. Many believe Democratic control of the Senate is also at risk.

“Voters are going to deliver a big fat message to President Obama, which he will not want to hear,” said Larry Sabato, who runs Crystal Ball. “The Republican base is at least 50 degrees further to the right than where it was when Newt Gingrich took control of the House in 1994, so we would be looking at two years of absolutely nothing getting done on Capitol Hill.”

The numbers, which threaten Mr Obama with a “wave election” similar to those of 1994 and 2006, when Democrats wrested back control of the House after 12 years, also extend to key states.

According to local polls, Democrats are on course to lose the governorships of traditionally left-leaning states such as Michigan and Pennsylvania and may be vulnerable in Illinois, long a party bastion.

Such is the scale of the expected losses that analysts are already focused on how Mr Obama can turn Republican domination to his advantage in his 2012 re-election race.

Washington is awash with speculation on whether the Republicans will over-reach as Mr Gingrich did in 1995 when Bill Clinton won a stand-off that had resulted in the shutdown of government.

“The political environment for Democrats is now every bit as poisonous as it was for them in 1994 and for Republicans in 2006,” said Charlie Cook, the widely tracked electoral forecaster.

The expected groundswell is driven by the composition of voter turnout, which at about 40 per cent would be significantly lower than the 63 per cent that brought Mr Obama to power. According to polls, likely Republican voters are twice as motivated to vote as Democrats.

That “enthusiasm gap” was on display last weekend at the Tea Party movement’s rally in Washington.

Recent polls show that 61 per cent of Americans “always or usually” live from pay cheque to pay cheque, up from 49 per cent in 2008.
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Re: Gallup - Democrats set for historic beatdown in November 2010 Midterms.
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2010, 04:00:18 PM »
I really sense a beat down on the horizon.  Has nothing to with trends, etc.  It's simply Obama doing a lousy job as president, Congress stinking up the place, and there being no real economic improvement.  There will likely be huge losses for Democrats in November because this Congress sucks.  There likely be turnover in 2012 because Obama can't handle the job and the majority of the country disagrees with what he is doing. 

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Re: Gallup - Democrats set for historic beatdown in November 2010 Midterms.
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2010, 04:02:52 PM »
Now,once again you keep defending Obama.

No, I do not.  I keep saying that - for his own possibly twisted political ideology - he is accomplishing a shitload of his goals.

Just as Bush (when he had congress) got many of his tasks thru - mainly giving control of norad to cheney right before 911, then starting 2 wars.

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Re: Gallup - Democrats set for historic beatdown in November 2010 Midterms.
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2010, 09:37:04 AM »
Obama's Indifference Spells Dems' Disaster
Townhall.com ^ | September 1, 2010 | Donald Lambro


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WASHINGTON -- President Obama came out to the White House Rose Garden Monday on his first full day back at work to devote a full four minutes to the sinking U.S. economy.

Even though a president's time is valuable, considering the ever-weakening $14 trillion economy that has slowed to a crawl, it wasn't much. But with his 1930s-style economic policies in shambles, voters up in arms over the prospect that things will not be getting better anytime soon and a new Gallup poll that suggests his party is going to get walloped in the midterm elections, his advisers said he had to do something.

He has stubbornly stuck to his spending stimulus game plan and insisted to NBC News anchor Brian Williams on Sunday that, well, at least "the economy is growing." And he put in another pitch for his impotent $30 billion small-business assistance bill that is languishing in the Senate. It wasn't much, but Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs said, "There's only so much that can be done."

In his four-minute remarks, Obama recited the now familiar litany of what he's done so far. But now his advisers are demanding he had to do more because clearly his spending stimulus plan isn't working, and for the first time he acknowledged that he and his team were "discussing additional measures" to spur faster growth and new jobs, including "further tax cuts." One would like to think that with 15 to 20 million Americans looking for full-time work and economic growth slowing to the mid-1 percent range and barely breathing, that Obama is growing impatient with the pace of the economy. But he hasn't shown that thus far, insisting that the recovery is growing modestly and is now in a recovery. White House officials call this "the recovery summer."

Yet when Obama walked into the Oval Office Monday he was greeted by a new Gallup poll that showed the Republicans now lead by 51 percent to 41 percent among registered voters in the polling firm's weekly tracking. Gallup said that the 10-point lead "is the GOP's largest so far this year and is its largest in Gallup's history of tracking the midterm generic ballot for Congress" going back to 1942.

In other words, Obama's party isn't just facing major losses at the polls in November, it's facing a bloodbath that could turn over control of both houses of Congress to Republicans that would bring the administration to a screeching halt and set the stage for making him a one-term president. It is hard to remember when a White House was so disconnected from the growing disapproval of a presidency and the severity of an economic situation teetering on the brink of a second recession.

Until Obama's return from his Martha's Vineyard vacation, he was insisting the economy was still "heading in the right direction," when, in fact, the revised GDP economic growth rate had plunged in the second quarter from 2.4 percent to a comatose 1.6 percent, unemployment claims were climbing, and the stock market was in a steep decline.

Harvard economist Paul Krugman, a liberal cheerleader for the president's $800 billion spending stimulus (although he believed it should be much bigger) now complains the government's present policies have "landed us in what looks increasingly like a permanent state of stagnation and high unemployment."

"It's time to admit that what we have now isn't a recovery, and do whatever we can to change that situation," Krugman wrote in his New York Times column last week.

Diehard Democratic economist Laura Tyson, a member of the White House's Economic Advisory Board, doesn't think the stimulus has worked, either, but she is calling for another spending stimulus bill.

Despite growing alarm among voters and throughout the business community about the administration's unending trillion-dollar budget deficits, Tyson dismisses them out of hand. There is "far too much focus on the deficit" and "too much worry about the size of government," she complains. This is the kind of advice Obama has been getting from his advisers on his economic and fiscal policies.

And it's going to get much worse, economists say. The jobless rate is expected to creep closer to 10 percent as employers hang on to their cash reserves, hoping to survive the long-term decline in the Obama economy. Growing numbers of workers are tapping their retirement funds just to get by. "In July alone, 381,000 adults chose to quit looking for work altogether, and that trend will continue in President Obama's land of dashed dreams and squandered opportunities," writes University of Maryland Business School economist Peter Morici.

Democratic lawmakers will be returning after Labor Day from their August recess with tales of an angry electorate, with many avoiding face-to-face town hall gatherings because of it.

"Democrats thought things couldn't get much worse on the electoral front -- and then they went home to campaign," the Politico website reports this week. "The Gallop poll, coming at the end of a brutal August for Democrats and Obama, reinforces the rapidly forming prevailing view that the horizon is as bleak for Democrats as it ever has been."

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Re: Gallup - Democrats set for historic beatdown in November 2010 Midterms.
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2010, 09:45:00 AM »
does anyone else buy into the pendulum theory yet?  And in another 6 or 8 years, it'll be people so sick of the repubs and ready for dems in congress again.  (Once financial responsibility returns and the welfare state mindset goes away).

Absolutely... we continue to think the grass is greener on the other side... when in fact the government is the only ones allowed on the grass while we watch from the porch of our dilapidated shanty 

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Re: Gallup - Democrats set for historic beatdown in November 2010 Midterms.
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2010, 09:47:12 AM »
Absolutely... we continue to think the grass is greener on the other side... when in fact the government is the only ones allowed on the grass while we watch from the porch of our dilapidated shanty 

52 consecutive months of job growth under Bush and republicans,killed the day Pelosi took over the congress.

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Re: Gallup - Democrats set for historic beatdown in November 2010 Midterms.
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2010, 09:48:31 AM »
52 consecutive months of job growth under Bush and republicans,killed the day Pelosi took over the congress.

I said to my GF the minute Pelosi took over we were royally screwed beyond comprehension and I was not wrong.