54% of NY State voters: "Muslims have the right to build the mosque near GZ"

[240 is Back]

A majority thinks they should move it - but a clear majority also believes they have the constitutional right to build here.  More notable might be the 40% of americans willing to wipe ass with Constitution.


54% of NY Sate voters: "Because of American freedom of religion, Muslims have the right to build the mosque near GZ

The controversy surrounding a proposed mosque near Ground Zero leaves New York State voters with conflicting opinions about religious freedom and the sensitivities of the families of 9/11 victims, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

 By a 54 - 40 percent majority, voters agree "that because of American freedom of religion, Muslims have the right to build the mosque near Ground Zero," the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds. Another 7 percent are undecided.

But these same voters agree 53 - 39 percent, with 8 percent undecided, "that because of the sensitivities of 9/11 relatives, Muslims should not be allowed to build the mosque near Ground Zero."
 
And by a 71 - 21 percent majority, voters agree "that because of the opposition of Ground Zero relatives, the Muslim group should voluntarily build the mosque somewhere else."
 
By a 45 - 31 percent margin, New York State voters say they have a "generally favorable" opinion of Islam, with 24 percent undecided.
 
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1318.xml?ReleaseID=1493

[Soul Crusher]

 

[Fury]

So 240 cries about religion on this board then posts this spinster propaganda shit?

You've circled around this "right to build it there" argument for weeks now when no one but you has actually argued it. 

[George Whorewell]

Every single poll I have seen states that Americans and New Yorkers don't want the Mosque built, but believe that the Terrorists who are behind the Mosque have the "right" to build it. This is hardly earth shattering news and has been rehashed over and over again ad -nauseum.

Making this a constitutional issue is a simplistic ploy ( largely orchestrated by individuals who are completely ignorant regarding what the constitution says, or by others who only think that the constitution exists to further their own agendas) that distracts stupid people from what the debate over the ground zero Mosque is really all about.

Thankfully, most people haven't fallen for the trap.

Unfortunately, 240 or bust isn't "most people".

[Fury]

Every single poll I have seen states that Americans and New Yorkers don't want the Mosque built, but believe that the Terrorists who are behind the Mosque have the "right" to build it. This is hardly earth shattering news and has been rehashed over and over again ad -nauseum.

Making this a constitutional issue is a simplistic ploy ( largely orchestrated by individuals who are completely ignorant regarding what the constitution says, or by others who only think that the constitution exists to further their own agendas) that distracts stupid people from what the debate over the ground zero Mosque is really all about.

Thankfully, most people haven't fallen for the trap.

Unfortunately, 240 or bust isn't "most people".

Well said.

240 was called out on his constitutional claims by kazan almost 3 weeks ago. He still hasn't answered the questions asked of him. Wonder why?

[Soul Crusher]

Every single poll I have seen states that Americans and New Yorkers don't want the Mosque built, but believe that the Terrorists who are behind the Mosque have the "right" to build it. This is hardly earth shattering news and has been rehashed over and over again ad -nauseum.

Making this a constitutional issue is a simplistic ploy ( largely orchestrated by individuals who are completely ignorant regarding what the constitution says, or by others who only think that the constitution exists to further their own agendas) that distracts stupid people from what the debate over the ground zero Mosque is really all about.

Thankfully, most people haven't fallen for the trap.

Unfortunately, 240 or bust isn't "most people".

I posted the real poll in the other thread.  71% want this disgrace moved. 

[Fury]

I posted the real poll in the other thread.  71% want this disgrace moved. 

The number keeps going up as more and more dirt on these people comes out. 

[Soul Crusher]

The number keeps going up as more and more dirt on these people comes out. 

yup - the local news has hit the developer of the disgrac e hard on his past and he is dodging the media like crazy on this. 

[Fury]

yup - the local news has hit the developer of the disgrac e hard on his past and he is dodging the media like crazy on this. 

There was an argument between these people and another imam last week over their avoiding questions on it as it makes them look even shadier. Thankfully, they couldn't be handling this any worse. The MSM has spent weeks trying to champion this mosque and they're still losing support over it. 

[MCWAY]

A majority thinks they should move it - but a clear majority also believes they have the constitutional right to build here.  More notable might be the 40% of americans willing to wipe ass with Constitution.


54% of NY Sate voters: "Because of American freedom of religion, Muslims have the right to build the mosque near GZ

The controversy surrounding a proposed mosque near Ground Zero leaves New York State voters with conflicting opinions about religious freedom and the sensitivities of the families of 9/11 victims, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

 By a 54 - 40 percent majority, voters agree "that because of American freedom of religion, Muslims have the right to build the mosque near Ground Zero," the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds. Another 7 percent are undecided.

But these same voters agree 53 - 39 percent, with 8 percent undecided, "that because of the sensitivities of 9/11 relatives, Muslims should not be allowed to build the mosque near Ground Zero."
 
And by a 71 - 21 percent majority, voters agree "that because of the opposition of Ground Zero relatives, the Muslim group should voluntarily build the mosque somewhere else."
 
By a 45 - 31 percent margin, New York State voters say they have a "generally favorable" opinion of Islam, with 24 percent undecided.
 
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1318.xml?ReleaseID=1493

I have the right to own a car. That doesn't mean that a Mercedes dealership is obligated to give me one.

[Cy Tolliver]

Were going to deny you the rigt to build based on your religion in the usa what a joke

[BM OUT]

Were going to deny you the rigt to build based on your religion in the usa what a joke

Imagine that?Its not like the ACLU has ever tried to get churches to remove nativity scenes from in front of their churches at Christmas or anything.

[Soul Crusher]

Were going to deny you the rigt to build based on your religion in the usa what a joke

  

More hyperbole and failure to understand the issue. 

[Cy Tolliver]

We should never rever base decisions on what somones religion is it should not be an issue for peiple of our country .

I could see doing this if we were saudis

[Fury]

Who gave blacken a second account?

[dario73]

We should never rever base decisions on what somones religion is it should not be an issue for peiple of our country .

I could see doing this if we were saudis

English?

[George Whorewell]

Who gave blacken a second account?

Good eye- I was just thinking the same thing lol.

Either that or it's an amazing coincidence that two extremely stupid people with a poor command of the English language and the same political views decided to post on this board at the same time.

[Kazan]

I would say 54% of NY state voters don't understand the difference between a right and a privilege. Our rights are laid out plainly in the constitution. No wonder America is in the shape it is

[Dos Equis]

 

[OzmO]

I'd be willing to bet a large percentage of those polled against misunderstood the question.

[Fury]

Good eye- I was just thinking the same thing lol.

Either that or it's an amazing coincidence that two extremely stupid people with a poor command of the English language and the same political views decided to post on this board at the same time.

He's cut from the same cloth as SamsonEnterprises. Just doesn't have the intellectual capacity to cover it up.

[Soul Crusher]

I am coming less and less to the belief that these people have a right to build this based on their personal crap, the taxes, the shady past, the shady circumatances as to how this thing was bought. 


You idiots just claiming a right now matter what how about this - 

Go rob a bank, sell some drugs, and go apply to a bank for a home loan and tell the underwriter that the deposit came from drug deals and other behaviors you refuse to disclose.  She how far your rights get you. 

In my mind, there is a reason they are pursuing this with blazing speed, that being there is far more shady stuff coming out they know otherwise would and will deep six this mess. 
 

[Fury]

I am coming less and less to the belief that these people have a right to build this based on their personal crap, the taxes, the shady past, the shady circumatances as to how this thing was bought. 


You idiots just claiming a right now matter what how about this - 

Go rob a bank, sell some drugs, and go apply to a bank for a home loan and tell the underwriter that the deposit came from drug deals and other behaviors you refuse to disclose.  She how far your rights get you. 

In my mind, there is a reason they are pursuing this with blazing speed, that being there is far more shady stuff coming out they know otherwise would and will deep six this mess. 
 

Yup. This is exactly why they're doing it. The longer they wait the more shit that comes out on this guy and the less their chances of this atrocity being built.

[tonymctones]

A majority thinks they should move it - but a clear majority also believes they have the constitutional right to build here.  More notable might be the 40% of americans willing to wipe ass with Constitution.


54% of NY Sate voters: "Because of American freedom of religion, Muslims have the right to build the mosque near GZ

But these same voters agree 53 - 39 percent, with 8 percent undecided, "that because of the sensitivities of 9/11 relatives, Muslims should not be allowed to build the mosque near Ground Zero."
 
And by a 71 - 21 percent majority, voters agree "that because of the opposition of Ground Zero relatives, the Muslim group should voluntarily build the mosque somewhere else."
 
By a 45 - 31 percent margin, New York State voters say they have a "generally favorable" opinion of Islam, with 24 percent undecided.
 
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1318.xml?ReleaseID=1493

its damn near a full time job correcting your ignorance 240...

I agree with OZ id say chance of misunderstanding a question on this would be very good.

[Soul Crusher]

240 - wake up you dope!