In the grand scheme of things it really and I do mean really doesn't matter. There were a lot of people there, a whole lot. Now, when some of the media have thrown around numbers such as 80k, that's obviously aimed at belittling the event, even a glass monkeyed retard could see there were quite a few more than that. But whatever the number was, the fact remains simple, it was a butt load and it is doubtful that any one man in the country could gather such a large crowd. No, U.S. presidents do not count, they have the power of political party, Beck had only the power of individual.