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Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Published September 01, 2010 | FoxNews.com

A majority of Minnesota voters don't want to see their governor in the Oval Office, according to a new poll.

A Minnesota Public Radio/Humphrey Institute poll released Wednesday showed that 53 percent of those surveyed would probably not vote for Republican Gov. Tim Pawlenty for president even if he won the 2012 presidential primary.

Further, they picked former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney as their preferred Republican nominee by 45-32 percent.

The poll showed that state voters are disappointed with Pawlenty's out-of-state campaigning. Fifty-four percent of the 750 likely voters surveyed disapprove of his national political activity.

The poll had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 5.3 percentage points.

Minnesota's governor fared better when pitted against former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin in 2012.

The poll gave Pawlenty a wide 59-24 percent lead over Palin among the Minnesota voters.
Pawlenty told MPR he considers Romney a frontrunner because of his name recognition and campaign organization.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/01/poll-minnesota-voters-dont-want-pawlenty-president/

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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2010, 02:11:43 PM »
I have a very bad feeling in my gut I am going to be forced into a Romney vote in 2012.  Dear God help us. 

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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2010, 02:15:01 PM »
I have a very bad feeling in my gut I am going to be forced into a Romney vote in 2012.  Dear God help us. 

at least he'll already be really familiar with the POS healthcare program he's inheriting... he wrote it.

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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2010, 02:17:34 PM »
At this point, I'd take Romney over Obama.  I don't know much about Pawlenty, but I'd probably take him over Obama too.  I would have voted for Obama in 2012 if he came in and did a good job, but at this point I can't see any reasonable scenario where I'd vote for him. 

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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2010, 02:17:50 PM »
at least he'll already be really familiar with the POS healthcare program he's inheriting... he wrote it.

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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2010, 03:14:18 PM »
I have a very bad feeling in my gut I am going to be forced into a Romney vote in 2012.  Dear God help us. 

lol; and I was just thinking "where's Mitt on all this; he is looking better and better for the GOP"
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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2010, 03:16:24 PM »
lol; and I was just thinking "where's Mitt on all this; he is looking better and better for the GOP"

I will hold my nose and vote for MYTH if I have to.  My first choice is Thune, Sarah, Christie, Jindle, Pawlenty, Myth, Huck 

I dont think RP is running.   

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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2010, 04:52:20 PM »
Tim Pawlenty Skipped Over by McCain in '08, Set Up for Top Billing in 2012
Published November 08, 2010 | FoxNews.com 

Oct. 29: Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, flanked by Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour and U.S. Senate candidate Pat Toomey, was a prolific campaigner for 2010 Republican congressional candidates.
When Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty took over the state's executive office in 2003, Minnesota was facing a more than $4 billion budget shortfall -- an amount that was nearly 20 percent of the state's budget.

Minnesota's left-leaning Legislature wanted to raise the state's gas, alcohol and income taxes, but Pawlenty refused. Instead, he scoured the books and cut the budget by $3 billion.

"I wish I could tell you it was all reaching across the aisle with some great bipartisan -- you know, charm and getting along. There was some of that. But a lot of it was just a hard slog. I mean we had shut downs, special sessions and lawsuits. I personally un-allotted $3 billion out of the budget myself," Pawlenty told Fox News.

Most of the cuts came from transportation, welfare and other state services. But it's that kind of effort that put Pawlenty on the Libertarian Cato Institute's list of only four governors in the country to earn a reputation as a "frugal budgeter." It’s also an achievement poll watchers are considering as they weigh the 2012 field for a Republican nominee to challenge President Obama.

Pawlenty had been on 2008 Republican presidential candidate John McCain's short list for a running mate, a position he ultimately lost to another up and coming governor, but being passed over hasn't hurt the governor.

While he hasn't explicitly said he is running for president in 2012, he looks to be making all the right moves, including hiring a staff in Iowa, the first caucus state and traveling frequently to Iowa and New Hampshire, the first primary state in the U.S. presidential election cycle.

“I haven't decided that yet. I'm certainly open to it but I haven't ruled it in or out,” he said.

If Pawlenty does run, he’s already put in place a strong network of potential supporters. Aside from campaigning alongside many candidates, Pawlenty has three separate political action committees that have donated to 160 candidates nationwide this election cycle.

Suggesting he is a different kind of change from President Obama and the Democratic leadership that came to power in 2008, Pawlenty said he also sees differently a number of foreign policy issues, including the situation in the Middle East and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

“I've been to Iraq five times. I've been to Afghanistan three times. I've been all over the Middle East and been to China three times and led a number of other trade missions to other places around the world. But in my view, the number one issue facing the United States of America is making sure that America is secure and that we're respected around the world. President Obama sometimes seems to confuse that need and strategic objective with his desire to be popular,” he said.

Pawlenty said he also has concerns about the debt endangering America’s future. He said one item that should be on the chopping block is the new health care law

“ObamaCare is one of the worst pieces of legislation in the modern history of the country. It is going to increase-- healthcare spending, not decrease it. It's going to inflate the deficit, not decrease the deficit,” Pawlenty said.

But even if Pawlenty governs like the man to whom he wishes to be compared – Ronald Reagan – his star appeal and charisma are still wanting, a characteristic that Pawlenty acknowledges but says isn’t the most important factor in choosing a president.

“We've seen sizzle in the current president … There's a time in history where sometimes entertainment or, you know, drama is more important. There's other times when substance and track record and results are more important. And right now I'd put my record up against any governor in the country,” he said.

David Yepsen, chief political correspondent for The Des Moines Register and the go-to media watcher for all things Iowa presidential politics said being “vanilla” isn’t a bad thing.

“Vanilla is a popular choice of ice cream in America, and so when it comes to the presidency, people may like other candidates and may get more excited about other candidates. but when you look at who you want sitting in the Oval Office with their hand on the red button, you know, you tend to like candidates who come off as competent and cool,” he said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/08/tim-pawlenty-skipped-mccain-set-billing/

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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2010, 08:04:58 AM »
I actually think Mike Pence,if he runs for president and not governor of Indiana,will win the nomination.He will man handle all of the others in debates,is an arch conservative,will get the backing of tea party and looks good on television,plus is funny as hell in interviews.He is an extreme dark horse but Im betting on him or another Indiana guy Mitch Daniels.

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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2011, 01:15:37 PM »
Tim Pawlenty: Sarah Palin 'Is A Force Of Nature'
The Huffington Post   |  Nick Wing Posted: 01- 7-11 11:46 AM

Read More: 2012 Elections, Elections 2012, Palin, Palin News, Pawlenty, Sarah Palin, Sarah Palin News, Tim Pawlenty, Tim Pawlenty President, Politics News

Recently replaced Minnesota Governor and potential Republican presidential candidate Tim Pawlenty weighed in recently regarding another talked-about contender, explaining that Sarah Palin is a "force of nature" on the political scene.

"If she wanted to compete for the presidency, I think she has the tools to do it," Pawlenty says in an interview on ABC News's "Nighline" set to air Friday, before adding that he wasn't really weighing that direct matchup. "I've got a long way to go to get people to even know my name, much less worrying about whether I could beat, you know, the force of nature that is Sarah Palin."

Pawlenty then claimed that the GOP's view of the former Alaska governor was focused more on respect than fear.

"I don't think it's fair to say people are afraid of her," he said. "It's fair to say she is somebody who's got a lot of influence and can use it for good, if she chooses to."

ABC News points out:

If both decided to run, it wouldn't be the first time Pawlenty competed with Palin for a top office. In 2008, Pawlenty was rumored to be on the short list to be the running mate for Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

Pawlenty claimed that he wasn't really expecting to be on the ticket in 2008, but he couldn't help sounding somewhat disappointed that Palin had been picked over him.

"I started helping John McCain, not with the expectation of being his running mate, and then as that kinda grew, of course you get more interested," he said. "Things happen in life for a reason."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/07/tim-pawlenty-sarah-palin_n_805806.html

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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2011, 01:41:08 PM »
I like Pawlenty.  He's a little weird, but has solid experience and common sense.  I'd vote for him in a minute over obama.

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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2011, 01:44:15 PM »
At this point, I'd take Romney over Obama.  I don't know much about Pawlenty, but I'd probably take him over Obama too.  I would have voted for Obama in 2012 if he came in and did a good job, but at this point I can't see any reasonable scenario where I'd vote for him.  

This seems unlikely. Did you vote for him in 2008?

Cause if not when you have a McCain / Palin ticket, there's no way you would have voted for him in 2012.

Is it conjecture on my part? Sure, but I'd bet dollars to donuts that I'm right.

Go ahead and tell us otherwise though.

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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2011, 01:47:55 PM »
This seems unlikely. Did you vote for him in 2008?

Cause if not when you have a McCain / Palin ticket, there's no way you would have voted for him in 2012.

Is it conjecture on my part? Sure, but I'd bet dollars to donuts that I'm right.

Go ahead and tell us otherwise though.

?  Not sure what you're asking me.  I voted against Obama in 08.  I'm likely voting against him again in 2012. 

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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2011, 01:50:18 PM »
I would vote for Pawlenty.  He has grown on me a bit.   Seems like a decent, non-threatening sane person not seeking fundamentally transform the USA.     

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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2011, 01:53:57 PM »
?  Not sure what you're asking me.  I voted against Obama in 08.  I'm likely voting against him again in 2012. 

I think your historical vote against him would basically show you wouldn't vote for him in 2012. Whether he did everything you liked or not.


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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2011, 01:55:31 PM »
I think your historical vote against him would basically show you wouldn't vote for him in 2012. Whether he did everything you liked or not.



Does my support for Madoff/Vanderloot in 2012 give you a signal how I'm voting in 2012?    ;D  ;D

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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2011, 01:56:06 PM »
Does my support for Madoff/Vanderloot in 2012 give you a signal how I'm voting in 2012?    ;D  ;D

I would say you're just going to vote for anyone who's already a politician... They're all crooks anyway. :D

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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2011, 01:59:26 PM »
I would say you're just going to vote for anyone who's already a politician... They're all crooks anyway. :D

I would vote for Ed Gein/ John Wayne Gacy in 2012 if forced to.   

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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2011, 02:00:12 PM »
I think your historical vote against him would basically show you wouldn't vote for him in 2012. Whether he did everything you liked or not.



You mean like my historical votes for Bill Clinton?  Or the fact I said on this board that I considered voting for Obama in 08?  And the fact I said, shortly after he was elected, that I would consider voting for Obama in 2012 if he did a good job?  

What I do in every election is vote for the person I think will do the best job, regardless of party.  I also take the balance of power into consideration (don't like one party rule).

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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2011, 02:00:49 PM »
I would vote for Ed Gein/ John Wayne Gacy in 2012 if forced to.    

Scary on so many levels.

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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2011, 02:02:44 PM »
Scary on so many levels.

Not really.   They are less a threat to the nation than Obama is.     

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« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2011, 02:16:46 PM »
Not really.   They are less a threat to the nation than Obama is.     

We will just simply have to disagree on this. To me, that comes across as kooky.

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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2011, 03:29:56 PM »
INTRADE has obama at 58% chance of re-election.

Republicans better get their shit together.  Day 1 of their new House regime... two of the newbies decided they could be sworn in by raising their hand while at a FUNDRAISER!  They skipped day 1 of work - then they voted on 8 bills before they had even been sworn in!

Boehhner stopped congress today to swear the 2 of them in... called one of them fitzsimmons instead of fitzpatrick....... just seemed like Amateur hour thus far....

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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2011, 06:22:42 PM »
INTRADE made a prediction about a November 2012 election against an unnamed opponent.  lol . . . . Cancel Christmas . . . .

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Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2011, 08:20:56 AM »
Pawlenty Says 'Leaning Towards' 2012 Race
Tuesday, 18 Jan 2011
 
WASHINGTON - Former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty said Tuesday he is leaning toward running for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012.

Pawlenty, interviewed on MSNBC's "The Daily Rundown," gave the strongest hint yet that he plans to seek the nomination to challenge Democratic President Barack Obama in 2012.

Pawlenty has previously said he is seriously considering a run with a decision expected by the end of March.

"It's something I'm leaning towards," he said. "I'm seriously considering it. I just haven't made the final decision."

A large field of Republican candidates are expected to enter the contest. None of the major names have done so yet, such as former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney.

Pawlenty, who lacks the name recognition of some potential contenders like former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, has been laying the groundwork for a campaign by visiting key states Iowa and New Hampshire and pushing a conservative theme of fiscal responsibility.

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/pawlenty-palin-2012/2011/01/18/id/383136