4 new IFBB Pros from 2010 North American Championships

[Flexb]

My man, Big Ron Partlow got shafted. He placed 2nd last (14th) in the super-heavyweights yet had probably the best condition among them. He wasn't top 5 material necessarily but should have been top 10. Another example of a Canadian competing in an American show and getting fuked by the judges.

[Flexb]

And this guy got 7th!!! WTF!?

[Flexb]

And this guy got 6th!!! 

[Flexb]

Sorry, wrong results. Flex hasn't updated them and only had the finished for the top 5. Here are the results:

Super Heavyweight
1. Abbas Khatami
2. Keith Williams
3. Todd Jewell
4. Michael Rice
5. Brian Yersky
6. Ron Partlow
7. Mario Possemato
8. Nathan Steiger
9. Loutfi Ajaoun
10. Ryan Watson
11. Les Galloway
12. Lonnie Townsend
13. Brandon Beckrich
14. John Simone
15. Kevin Law

[Chick]

Guess that blows your whole Canadian conspiracy theory...

[Flexb]

Guess that blows your whole Canadian conspiracy theory...

Yes and no, Todd Jewell should have been placed a lot lower. His conditioning was crap, but his name is pretty popular in the US and will always place above a Canadian on US territory




Even Yersky shouldn't have beaten Ron. Lacked the hardness and condition also

[Chick]

Bro...please. I can pick out many reasons why your boy placed where he did, and was beaten by the guys you mentioned....you think the judges really care (or even know) where he's from?...LOL

Who are these other "great Canadians" that you believe have been wronged throughout the years?

[Flexb]

Bro...please. I can pick out many reasons why your boy placed where he did, and was beaten by the guys you mentioned....you think the judges really care (or even know) where he's from?...LOL

Who are these other "great Canadians" that you believe have been wronged throughout the years?

Are you fuking kidding me? No way Todd Jewell should have been 3rd place. He looked like he was still a few weeks out and still had a good 7-8 lbs to lose. Conditioning is vital at that caliber of a show, and if you're noticeably off, you should be relegated to a lower placing automatically. Yes, Jewell has muscle and ok symmetry/shape, but what does that matter if you're off that much? Structurally Ron has a tougher time. He's tall and isn't put together as well as some others, but he makes up for that with great condition and hardness as well as looks great in most of his poses. Pose for pose he beats Jewell -- in that show.

And you're saying politics don't play a role and they judges don't pay attention to the names on the competitor list? Are we on another planet?

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Bro...please. I can pick out many reasons why your boy placed where he did, and was beaten by the guys you mentioned....you think the judges really care (or even know) where he's from?...LOL

Who are these other "great Canadians" that you believe have been wronged throughout the years?

Did Abbas get his pro card???

[Chick]

Did Abbas get his pro card???

Yes, he was awarded the second pro card in the Mens open

[Chick]

Are you fuking kidding me? No way Todd Jewell should have been 3rd place. He looked like he was still a few weeks out and still had a good 7-8 lbs to lose. Conditioning is vital at that caliber of a show, and if you're noticeably off, you should be relegated to a lower placing automatically. Yes, Jewell has muscle and ok symmetry/shape, but what does that matter if you're off that much? Structurally Ron has a tougher time. He's tall and isn't put together as well as some others, but he makes up for that with great condition and hardness as well as looks great in most of his poses. Pose for pose he beats Jewell -- in that show.

And you're saying politics don't play a role and they judges don't pay attention to the names on the competitor list? Are we on another planet?

You may certainly be on another planet, as you're clearly talking out of Uranus

Pose for pose, your boy is put together like machinery...I didnt see the prejudging, or any comparisons...just the pics like everyone else.  You dont get an automatic pass into the top 5 just because you had better conditioning than a few guys in front of you.....missing BP can cost you just as much, as can a sub-par physique. 

[Chick]

Are you fuking kidding me? No way Todd Jewell should have been 3rd place. He looked like he was still a few weeks out and still had a good 7-8 lbs to lose. Conditioning is vital at that caliber of a show, and if you're noticeably off, you should be relegated to a lower placing automatically. Yes, Jewell has muscle and ok symmetry/shape, but what does that matter if you're off that much? Structurally Ron has a tougher time. He's tall and isn't put together as well as some others, but he makes up for that with great condition and hardness as well as looks great in most of his poses. Pose for pose he beats Jewell -- in that show.

And you're saying politics don't play a role and they judges don't pay attention to the names on the competitor list? Are we on another planet?

Still waiting for your list....

[ThaRealist]

At least I know there is hope when I am still working out at 50 to gain a pro card and call my life complete

[Flexb]

You may certainly be on another planet, as you're clearly talking out of Uranus

Pose for pose, your boy is put together like machinery...I didnt see the prejudging, or any comparisons...just the pics like everyone else.  You dont get an automatic pass into the top 5 just because you had better conditioning than a few guys in front of you.....missing BP can cost you just as much, as can a sub-par physique. 

Keith Williams isn't put together that great and legs are severely lacking, not to mention lacking the definition Ron had, however he cracks the top 2 at the USA's and here no problem. He's very good, but one can question how he places so high, but he's a Weider boy so...

The only bodypart Ron really misses is his calves, in comparison to the others. His quads could use more size, but what are you going to award? Quads that are pretty big but striated, dry and shredded, or Quads that are bigger but soft? Easy choice for me.

Listen, I know you know politics play roles in contests from local shows up the ranks. Maybe you don't want to say anything since you don't want to rattle the powers that be since you're M.O is to keep the peace, and that's fine. But if you honestly think an unknown Canadian bodybuilder is going to get a fair shake in a U.S show on U.S soil, against popular U.S names, you're not being realistic.

[ThaRealist]

Keith Williams isn't put together that great and legs are severely lacking, not to mention lacking the definition Ron had, however he cracks the top 2 at the USA's and here no problem. He's very good, but one can question how he places so high, but he's a Weider boy so...

The only bodypart Ron really misses is his calves, in comparison to the others. His quads could use more size, but what are you going to award? Quads that are pretty big but striated, dry and shredded, or Quads that are bigger but soft? Easy choice for me.

Listen, I know you know politics play roles in contests from local shows up the ranks. Maybe you don't want to say anything since you don't want to rattle the powers that be since you're M.O is to keep the peace, and that's fine. But if you honestly think an unknown Canadian bodybuilder is going to get a fair shake in a U.S show on U.S soil, against popular U.S names, you're not being realistic.

This is Bob your talking to you...Just keep that in mind

[Flexb]

Still waiting for your list....

Anthony Wolf Williams, Henderson Thorne and Claude Groulx were constantly placed behind others they should have beaten and this was commonly known and stated. They weren't top bodybuilders but they were bounced out of the top 10 many times when they should have been in it.

Fouad has taken his bruises as he climbed the political ladder at the beginning of his pro career. Every show he did there was a valid argument that he should have placed higher.

Paul Dillet was the smart one. He moved to the US from Canada and started winning pro shows. Had he not made that move and surrounded himself with "industry people," it's a safe bet he wouldn't have been even half as successful.

[Chick]

Keith Williams isn't put together that great and legs are severely lacking, not to mention lacking the definition Ron had, however he cracks the top 2 at the USA's and here no problem. He's very good, but one can question how he places so high, but he's a Weider boy so...

The only bodypart Ron really misses is his calves, in comparison to the others. His quads could use more size, but what are you going to award? Quads that are pretty big but striated, dry and shredded, or Quads that are bigger but soft? Easy choice for me.

Listen, I know you know politics play roles in contests from local shows up the ranks. Maybe you don't want to say anything since you don't want to rattle the powers that be since you're M.O is to keep the peace, and that's fine. But if you honestly think an unknown Canadian bodybuilder is going to get a fair shake in a U.S show on U.S soil, against popular U.S names, you're not being realistic.

Bro...please...at least have a valid argument.

First, Keith is not a "Weider guy"...dont know where you get that info from....

Second, He's in a different league than your boy...not even comparable...

Third, Your boy is missing a lot more than leg width....he has no arms, no thinckness, and a back which lacks so much, the womens winner wiped the floor with him from behind (feel free to post comp shots)

STILL waiting for your long list of Canadians you feel were robbed due to politics.  

As for unknowns getting a fair shake...who the fuck was Marc LaVoie last year??  

Stop while you still can save a shread of dignity...

[Chick]

Anthony Wolf Williams, Henderson Thorne and Claude Groulx were constantly placed behind others they should have beaten and this was commonly known and stated. They weren't top bodybuilders but they were bounced out of the top 10 many times when they should have been in it.

Fouad has taken his bruises as he climbed the political ladder at the beginning of his pro career. Every show he did there was a valid argument that he should have placed higher.

Paul Dillet was the smart one. He moved to the US from Canada and started winning pro shows. Had he not made that move and surrounded himself with "industry people," it's a safe bet he wouldn't have been even half as successful.

LOL.....wow

THAT'S your list?

[Flexb]

Bro...please...at least have a valid argument.

First, Keith is not a "Weider guy"...dont know where you get that info from....

Second, He's in a different league than your boy...not even comparable...

Third, Your boy is missing a lot more than leg width....he has no arms, no thinckness, and a back which lacks so much, the womens winner wiped the floor with him from behind (feel free to post comp shots)

STILL waiting for your long list of Canadians you feel were robbed due to politics.  

As for unknowns getting a fair shake...who the fuck was Marc LaVoie last year??  

Stop while you still can save a shread of dignity...

Keith signed with Weider this year. It was posted as an article on Flexonline's home page.  


Yersky


Jewell


Ron

While Yersky and Jewell may have a thicker back (Yersky's isn't that much thicker), Rons is drier. Rons hams are fuking shredded while both Yersky's and Jewell's are soft as fuk. Pose goes to Ron.

No Bob, you should stop and collect what respect you may have from others still exists. You're so full of shit now that I'm losing respect for you. You try to act as if you're a straight shooter that tells it how it is. Well guess what? Now you're totally exposing yourself trying to say politics don't exist in bodybuilding show. Someone of your stature in the sport should know better, and maybe you do, but this is a no-win argument for yourself. If you think Ron should have placed where he did is one thing, but to literally say politics aren't a factor and Canadian guys competing in the US have as good as a chance as US guys winning show on U.S soil is insane. Check yourself, guy.

[Chick]

I'm sorry, must have mised it.....what was the reply to LaVoie winning 2 procards in 2008 as a complete unknown CANADIAN?

Beating Lee Banks, who was the odds on favorite, AMERICAN, NPC athlete, etc, etc....

Bottom line is bud...there havent been but  a handful of Canadian pro's who were any good.....

You're making a fool of yourself trying to justify your boy placing hbigher, when the fact is...he just isnt that good....in the Nationals or USA, he wouldnt have made the cut

[Flexb]

I'm sorry, must have mised it.....what was the reply to LaVoie winning 2 procards in 2008 as a complete unknown CANADIAN?

Beating Lee Banks, who was the odds on favorite, AMERICAN, NPC athlete, etc, etc....

Bottom line is bud...there havent been but  a handful of Canadian pro's who were any good.....

You're making a fool of yourself trying to justify your boy placing hbigher, when the fact is...he just isnt that good....in the Nationals or USA, he wouldnt have made the cut

No, you're making a complete fool of yourself trying to say politics don't play a role in the judging at a bodybuilding show when everybody knows they do.

Whatever, Marc was one of the few that beat an American one time. Who knows what the story is. Maybe Lee Banks pissed off a judge that year or maybe Marc already had a good relationship with the NPC.

To say Ron isn't that good when the guy just placed 6th place at a US National show, and arguably should have placed 1-2 places better, is pretty dumb. I'm very critical of a bodybuilder who lacks shape and has a poor structure, but Ron makes up for a lot of shortcomings once he settles down into his poses. Crazy lat spread, freaky shoulders, shredded legs and hams etc. And for a tall guy he does very well with what he's been born with, and to boot the man always comes SHREDDED and isn't a typical lazy fuk who relies on his god given genetics. He's placed 2nd place 6 times at the Canadians yet keeps on striving to the top. Everyone in the bodybuilding scene in canada knows the Canadian judges have it out for him. The man who beat Ron at the Canada's this year for 1st place just placed 2-3 spots BEHIND Ron at the North American's. That's a little interesting in itself because everyone thought Ron got robbed by the judges at the Canada's in his loss to Loufti yet goes over there and beats him decisively. My point, just like US bodybuilding,  Canada bodybuilding is ran by politics also.

[Matt C]

2, no probably 3 more pointless pro cards dished out to people who will never place.

I hate to say it, but it's kind of sad to me when some of these new pros are in tears over receiving their pro cards when they are already 35-40 years old.

I think any given pro bodybuilder can make a very good income from bodybuilding if they are intelligent.  If they are not intelligent, one must be top 6-10 in the world to make a good income.  I would extend this to the top 20 but I really don't think it is the case.

In three separate videos I saw Vince Taylor talking about how he had bills to pay.  In 2006 he was 50 years old and the 11th best bodybuilder in the world and still had bills to pay!

It makes me wonder if it's really worth it for these guys...

Some bodybuilders who have done VERY well for themselves: Rich Gaspari, Bob Cicherillo, and Jay Cutler.

[Flexb]

I hate to say it, but it's kind of sad to me when some of these new pros are in tears over receiving their pro cards when they are already 35-40 years old.

I think any given pro bodybuilder can make a very good income from bodybuilding if they are intelligent.  If they are not intelligent, one must be top 6-10 in the world to make a good income.  I would extend this to the top 20 but I really don't think it is the case.

In three separate videos I saw Vince Taylor talking about how he had bills to pay.  In 2006 he was 50 years old and the 11th best bodybuilder in the world and still had bills to pay!

It makes me wonder if it's really worth it for these guys...

Some bodybuilders who have done VERY well for themselves: Rich Gaspari, Bob Cicherillo, and Jay Cutler.

That's the thing though; to some guys it's about accomplishing their dream, not money.

[noworries]

did Goodrum get his pro card

[Figo]

did Goodrum get his pro card

in what?