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I agree with you that ppl are pissed off.  But THAT IS NOT THE DISCUSSION WE WERE HAVING.

You said a US Governor is full of shit when it comes to a govt shutdown, when he said emergency services will be interrupted.  Then you said, when asked what a govt shutdown entails:

I guess I"m just seeing a disconnect here...

What will happen is that the public will go nuts and demand that these greedy pigs re-negotiate their contracts and the greedy pigs will be given a choice to accept it or decline it.  If they don't they get fired and new people employed. 

It could be eneded in a week. 

sorry 240 - the public has asked nicely and these pigs have refused to acceed to the people who pay the bills. 

Whats' next, Whats next, Whats' next!!!!!! 

 

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The Buckley Rule
O’Donnell’s victory could hamper the GOP’s ability to stop the Obama agenda.

BY CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER


Tuesday in Delaware was a bad day not only for Republicans but for conservatives. Tea partier Christine O’Donnell scored a stunning victory over establishment Republican Mike Castle. Stunning but pyrrhic. The very people who have most alerted the country to the perils of President Obama’s social-democratic agenda may have just made it impossible for Republicans to retake the Senate and definitively stop that agenda.

Bill Buckley — no Mike Castle he — had a rule: Support the most conservative candidate who is electable.


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A timeless rule of sober politics, and particularly timely now. This is no ordinary time. And this is no ordinary Democratic administration. It is highly ideological and ambitious. It is determined to use whatever historical window it is granted to change the country structurally, irreversibly. It may already have done so with Obamacare and it has equally lofty ambitions for energy, education, immigration, taxation, industrial policy, and the composition of the Supreme Court.

That’s what makes the 11th-hour endorsements of O’Donnell by Sen. Jim DeMint (R., S.C.) and Sarah Palin so reckless and irresponsible.

Of course Mike Castle is a liberal Republican. What do you expect from Delaware? A DeMint? Castle voted against Obamacare and the stimulus. Yes, he voted for cap-and-trade. That’s batting .667. You’d rather have a Democrat who bats .000 and who might give the Democrats the 50th vote to control the Senate?

Castle wasn’t only electable. He was unbeatable. Why do you think Beau Biden, long groomed to inherit his father’s seat, flinched from running? Because Castle, who had already won statewide races a dozen times, scared him off. Democrats had already given up on the race.

O’Donnell, a lifelong activist who has twice lost statewide races, is very problematic. It is not that the Republican establishment denigrates her chances — virtually every nonpartisan electoral analyst from Charlie Cook to Larry Sabato to Stuart Rothenberg has her losing in November.

Nor is opposition to O’Donnell’s candidacy a sign of hostility or disrespect to the tea party. Many of those who wanted to see Castle nominated in Delaware have from the beginning defended the tea-party movement from the mainstream media’s scurrilous portrayal of it as a racist rabble of resentful lumpenproletarians. Indeed, it is among the most vigorous and salutary grassroots movements of our time, dedicated to a genuine constitutionalism from which the country has strayed far.

And its complaint that it is often taken for granted by the Republican establishment (interestingly parallel to the often-heard African-American community’s complaint against the Democratic party) is not to be dismissed. Tea partiers should not, as many of them fear, simply be used by the Republican party as a source of electoral energy while their own candidates are ignored and dismissed. But the question is: Which of their candidates?

Marco Rubio in Florida is strong, serious, dynamic. He has a great future as a Republican leader. Joe Miller, who upset the Murkowski dynasty in Alaska, is a man of remarkable achievement: West Point graduate, decorated veteran, judge. Both will win.

Moreover, geography matters. Rand Paul may not be the best candidate in the world — it is not a very good idea to start your general-election campaign by expressing reservations about the Civil Rights Act — but he is running in Kentucky. He will almost certainly win.

Delaware is not Kentucky. If Republicans want to be a national party, they cannot write off the Northeast, whose Republicanism is of a distinctly moderate variety. Scott Brown broke Republican ranks to vote for Obama’s financial reform. Are conservatives now going to run him out of the Senate? Wasn’t it just eight months ago that his victory in Massachusetts was hailed as a turning point in the campaign to stop the Obama agenda?

You don’t stop that agenda by nominating an O’Donnell in Delaware and turning a Senate seat from safe Republican to safe Democratic.

If DeMint and Palin want to show that helping O’Donnell over the top — she won late and by six points — wasn’t a capricious spreading of fairy dust, perhaps they should go to Delaware now and get her elected to the Senate.

You made it possible. Now make it happen. I would be happy to be proved wrong about O’Donnell’s electability — I want Republicans to win that 51st seat. Stay in Delaware and show us you were right. The beaches are said to be lovely in the fall.
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MM2K - I am not with you on this. 

O'Donnell can and will win, as will Angle, Rubio, Carly, et al. 

The GOP base is FINALLY standing up to the RINO trash that destroyed the party.

Castle was the worst of the worst, F rating from the NRA, voted for Cap & Trade, voted against the surge, voted for TARP and the bailouts, etc etc. 

Sorry, he is and was always a complete disaster not worthy of being a GOP Senator.  He would be a Jim Jeffords and work all the time to undermine the party.     

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Delaware: Can Coons Hold Off the O'Donnell Juggernaut?
By Michael Crowley / Washington Friday, Sep. 17, 2010 


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Thanks to Christine O'Donnell and the Tea Party, a lot of Democrats are confident Joe Biden's former Delaware Senate seat is now in the bag. But their celebration may be premature. O'Donnell has already raised more than $1 million since her primary win, and while a competitive race is likely to cost several million dollars, she might not have much trouble, given the national support she'll be getting from the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Sarah Palin.

Chuckling Democrats would be wise to remember a woman named Martha Coakley was once considered a shoo-in in another reliably Democratic state, Massachusetts, only to become the first major political scalp of Tea Party politics. But Coakley turned out to be a lousy candidate and Scott Brown caught the world unawares.
(See portraits of the Tea Party movement.)

Things will be different this time. While some senior Republicans, including Karl Rove, seem convinced that O'Donnell can't win, not all Democrats (including Biden himself) agree. One party strategist with extensive Senate campaign experience told me after her win that he thinks O'Donnell's star power with the far right might enable her to raise money and generate enough enthusiasm to pull off an upset.

One reason this strategist said he's not more worried, however, is that he believes O'Donnell's (nationally) unknown Democratic opponent, Chris Coons, is no Martha Coakley. "He's very talented," said my source. And he's not the only one to feel that way. Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid has already raved about Coons — perhaps to comedic excess — as "my pet ... my favorite candidate."
(Watch TIME's video "Meet the Tea Party.")

Coons' résumé may not sport anything as colorful as O'Donnell's abstinence and antimasturbation crusading. But he did campaign for Ronald Reagan as a teenager before labeling himself, in a much-quoted-on-the-right college essay, a "bearded Marxist." Now 47, Coons has served in county government for the past decade, with the last six years as executive of New Castle County — one of Delaware's three counties and home to about 500,000 of the state's roughly 900,000 residents. His pedigree may be easy for a Tea Partyer to sneer at — undergrad at Amherst, law and divinity school at Yale — but in a relatively prosperous Northeastern state like Delaware (where the unemployment rate is high, but lower than the national average), it may be an asset. (And remember: at least two other Tea Party darlings, Joe Miller in Alaska and Ken Buck in Colorado, also have Ivy League degrees.)

Unlike some other Democrats recently running from it, Coons openly supports a cap-and-trade plan to combat global warming; sounds fairly conventional on education reform; and describes himself as a "Truman Democrat," which has a slightly hawkish ring but could actually mean almost anything short of Kucinich-ism. (It's hard to find anything Coons has to say about Afghanistan beyond some milquetoasty criticism of Stanley McChrystal's infamous comments to Rolling Stone.) On MSNBC's Hardball Wednesday, Coons said he would have voted for both the health care bill and financial regulatory reform. He has also made an interesting proposal for a lifetime ban on Senate lobbying by former Senators, something unlikely to endear him to his potential new colleagues.
(See "Republican Surprise: 10 More Scott Browns.")

The big picture, however, is that this campaign will unfold in a state that went 62-37 for Obama in 2008, thanks in part to the place of local hero Joe Biden on the ticket. Biden already has plans to campaign and raise money for Coons. And polling shows Coons now with a double-digit lead. So Coons could probably get away with being just an ordinary candidate. Especially if the bet reflected by the unusual photo of his opponent on his campaign home page is the right one: just keep people talking about Christine O'Donnell.

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All she needs to do is keep running his self admitted marxist status, vote for cap & trade, obamacare, etc etc. 

BTW - she is already at almost 1.5 Million.

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MM2K - I am not with you on this. 

O'Donnell can and will win, as will Angle, Rubio, Carly, et al. 

The GOP base is FINALLY standing up to the RINO trash that destroyed the party.

Castle was the worst of the worst, F rating from the NRA, voted for Cap & Trade, voted against the surge, voted for TARP and the bailouts, etc etc. 

Sorry, he is and was always a complete disaster not worthy of being a GOP Senator.  He would be a Jim Jeffords and work all the time to undermine the party.     

I still think you are understimating the power of the 51st Senator. Controlling committes gives the GOP great power in keeping Obama's agenda locked up in committe proceedings. I would also add to the Krauthammer article that Chris Christy is a RINO. I know we all love him for his attitude and his hard stance against spending, but we have lost sight of that fact that he is a moderate. Should we run him out of the New Jersey governor's mansion?
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I still think you are understimating the power of the 51st Senator. Controlling committes gives the GOP great power in keeping Obama's agenda locked up in committe proceedings. I would also add to the Krauthammer article that Chris Christy is a RINO. I know we all love him for his attitude and his hard stance against spending, but we have lost sight of that fact that he is a moderate. Should we run him out of the New Jersey governor's mansion?

No, but being a Governor is not the same as being a Senator.   On votes like Cap & Tax, guns, repealing obamaCare, etc, Castle is worse or as bad as a Dem. 

For me, its no longer about party over all else.  We tried that once and it was a disaster.     

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Look, the people of Delaware voted in a Primary, for who they wanted to represent them in the General Election, and She won. Its now time for all of you that are unhappy about this to stop your with your pouting, and move along to the General as well.

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Look, the people of Delaware voted in a Primary, for who they wanted to represent in the General Election, and She won. Its now time for all of you that are unhappy about this to stop your with your pouting, and move along to the General as well.

No freaking kidding.  The base has shown up for RINO after RINO after pathetic impish, hack RINO and now the milquetoast establishment is screaming like Bitches when we ask for the favor in return. 

the more RINO filfth we can retire for good the better, even if it means losing a seat here or there.   

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well, a possibility is that this new generation of candidates, the "how could they do any worse" group, could lead to a complete shutdown of govt.  Didn't that happen with the govt in 96?

What a dream scenario.  Maybe people would realize that big government is not necessary, and is actually and impediment to progress (although sensible people already realize this). 

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Look, the people of Delaware voted in a Primary, for who they wanted to represent in the General Election, and She won. Its now time for all of you that are unhappy about this to stop your with your pouting, and move along to the General as well.

Hey I agree. People need to get behind Christine Odonell and I find it very troubling that Mike Castle will not endorse her. But Karl Rove is behind her and the RNC is behind her. I just find it unfortunate that Christine Odonnell supporters are making this out to be a Republican establishment thing and throwing around the RINO label. Its not about that. As Krauthammer points out, most Castle supporters also supported Rubio and Miller. Should I expect to be called a RINO or establishment Republican because I dont support a convservative candidate that happens to be a KKK member? Now ofcourse Odonnell isnt a KKK member, but Im just trying to get the point across that ideology isnt everything.
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Hey I agree. People need to get behind Christine Odonell and I find it very troubling that Mike Castle will not endorse her. But Karl Rove is behind her and the RNC is behind her. I just find it unfortunate that Christine Odonnell supporters are making this out to be a Republican establishment thing and throwing around the RINO label. Its not about that. As Krauthammer points out, most Castle supporters also supported Rubio and Miller. Should I expect to be called a RINO or establishment Republican because I dont support a convservative candidate that happens to be a KKK member? Now ofcourse Odonnell isnt a KKK member, but Im just trying to get the point across that ideology isnt everything.

And neither is winning at all cost when winning means getting Jim Jeffords, a vote for Cap & tax, a vote to keep obamacare, a vote against the surge, a vote for crazy spending, etc etc. 

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Hey I agree. People need to get behind Christine Odonell and I find it very troubling that Mike Castle will not endorse her. But Karl Rove is behind her and the RNC is behind her. I just find it unfortunate that Christine Odonnell supporters are making this out to be a Republican establishment thing and throwing around the RINO label. Its not about that. As Krauthammer points out, most Castle supporters also supported Rubio and Miller. Should I expect to be called a RINO or establishment Republican because I dont support a convservative candidate that happens to be a KKK member? Now ofcourse Odonnell isnt a KKK member, but Im just trying to get the point across that ideology isnt everything.

Support her ? did you see Rove on TV the next night (on Greta) still bashing her? did you see the ads Mike Castle ran in the newspaper the next day bashing her ?  Did you see that Mike Castle called and talked with Obama and Biden on the phone the very next day, yet he never called to congratulate O’Donnell ?  Dont be surprised when Mike Castle endorses the democrat off the secret advice from Rove and Cornyn.

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Support her ? did you see Rove on TV the next night (on Greta) still bashing her? did you see the ads Mike Castle ran in the newspaper the next day bashing her ?  Did you see that Mike Castle called and talked with Obama and Biden on the phone the very next day, yet he never called to congratulate O’Donnell ?  Dont be surprised when Mike Castle endorses the democrat off the secret advice from Rove and Cornyn.

Yup - because this is what RINO scum do. 


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With all due respect MM2K, get your head out of your ass.

Rove, Cornyn, and the RNC were forced into supporting her, after the backlash they received. And while at the same time saying they now support her, we all know what they are really doing behind closed doors.

Let's not forget that Rove was the one who let it be known that any Republican that did not vote yes with Bush on the Amnesty Bill, would net get any $upport from the RNC. This guy is a jack ass.

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I love the tizzy this incredibly stupid woman has caused within the Republican party.  Its the best thing to ever happen  not only for comedic value, but it is causing the Republican party to devour itself.

I say keep the loonies like O'Donnell at the forefront. Pretty soon, the whole thing will appear like a bad soap opera/reality show.  ;D

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I love the tizzy this incredibly stupid woman has caused within the Republican party.  Its the best thing to ever happen  not only for comedic value, but it is causing the Republican party to devour itself.

I say keep the loonies like O'Donnell at the forefront. Pretty soon, the whole thing will appear like a bad soap opera/reality show.  ;D

guess what TA, you will be even  more a Tizzy on November 4, 2010 when the entire Dem party is utterly destroyed and brought to its knees and she wins as people are sick of paying $800,000 for africans to learn how to clean their nuts. 

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guess what TA, you will be even  more a Tizzy on November 4, 2010 when the entire Dem party is utterly destroyed and brought to its knees and she wins as people are sick of paying $800,000 for africans to learn how to clean their nuts.  
I like the Libertarian Party, Socialist Party and the Green Party more so then the Democratic Party.  There are a few good Democrats around, but the number is not overly large.

I think Ralph Nader,Mike Gravel, Dennis Kucinich, Alan Grayson, Bernie Sanders or someone like Anthony Wiener is the current ideal.


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Rove knows a LOT more about ODonnel (and every other candidate) than we do.

Chances are, whatever skeletons she has - he already knows it.  It's been 2 days that the 'haters' of america have vetted her.  She was doing anything to become a star back then - i'm betting more video emerges, etc.

Rove is a smart dude, he knows where all the bodies are buried.  In a week or three when the other shoe drops, i bet rove isn't surprised.  Still, OD could win the state.


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I like the Libertarian Party, Socialist Party and the Green Party more so then the Democratic Party.  There are a few good Democrats around, but the number is not overly large.

I think Ralph Nader,Mike Gravel, Dennis Kucinich, Alan Grayson, Bernie Sanders or someone like Anthony Wiener is the current ideal.



And you call Christians and Muslims looney? You are the epitome of stupidity.

Kucinich,Weiner...? HAHHAHA. You must be joking. Right?

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And you call Christians and Muslims looney? You are the epitome of stupidity.

Kucinich,Weiner...? HAHHAHA. You must be joking. Right?
Why would I be joking and what is wrong with Kucinich or Wiener.  Anything specific about either that bothers you? 

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Why would I be joking and what is wrong with Kucinich or Wiener.  Anything specific about either that bothers you? 

Kucinich lost all credibility when folded like a bitch on obamaCare. 

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Why would I be joking and what is wrong with Kucinich or Wiener.  Anything specific about either that bothers you? 

Oh crap!!! You were not joking?

Never mind. I try to avoid lunatics and nutjobs at all costs.

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Oh crap!!! You were not joking?

Never mind. I try to avoid lunatics and nutjobs at all costs.
Ok, Dario73, you do that.  ;)

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She is almost at 1.7 million already.

this is going to be another HHHUUGGEE backfire on the RINO's and libtards. 

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