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Re: Will New York become the new Muslim Paris? (disturbing clip)
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2010, 11:53:36 AM »
This is an accurate picture of every Friday afternoon in several locations throughout NYC where there are mosques with a large number of Muslims that cannot fit into the mosque -- They fill the surrounding streets, facing east for a couple of hours between about 2 & 4 p.m. -- Besides this one at 42nd St & Madison Ave, there is another, even larger group, at 94th St & 3rd Ave, etc. -- Also, I presume, you are aware of the dispute over building another "high rise" Mosque a few blocks from "ground zero" -- With regard to that one, the "Imam" refuses to disclose where the $110 million dollars to build it is coming from and there is a lawsuit filed to force disclosure of that information.
  
This is in NYC.  This is not France or the Middle East or Yemen or Kenya.
  
If we don't wake up soon, we are going to "politically correct" ourselves right out of our own country.
 

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« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2010, 12:04:33 PM »
Xenophobic much Grant ? lol,  Never took you for a bigot but I guess everyone gets surprised.  

To answer your question, this would never happen in NY because a) US government would never ban burkas or discriminate against any religon and b) US citezens would actually fight back if the muslims in the US tried to flex their muscle.  YOu have to realize that their extremists in any religion right?  What about al those good old Christian boys hanging balck people by the trees down south, were they not dangerous?

Anyways, If the US people start to treat Islam this way then this country is truely fucked becasuse it is going back on the principles that it was founded on, burning religous books and flags is the cowardly, hippi, extremist and nazi  way not the American way. USA is better than that and I'm not even an American and I know that. :-\

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« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2010, 12:15:06 PM »
Ag you are really dumber than dog shit.

I'm glad that your from Canada.

It's nice to see that you are still impervious to logic and are completely incapable of engaging in a serious discussion without twisting the issue into something irrelevant or turning the thread into a virtual megaphone for your feminine hygiene rants about tolerance and the whole world holding hands.

And FYI for the 100th time, you do realize that 7% of 1.2 billion people comes out to around 80 million fanatics right?

Holy Meltdown,  ;D , What does me being Canadian have anything to do with it, and the fact that only 80 million out of 1.2 billion are fanatics proves that the majority of islam is not a bunch  of suicide vest toting retards, and what is wrong with people getting along ?  are you that bittter? Also do you deny that there are Christian and Jewsish fanatics?

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Re: Will New York become the new Muslim Paris? (disturbing clip)
« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2010, 12:16:46 PM »
first off - i am 9-1/2, i will be 10 soon

second - quite putting words in my mouth

third - a fire hose full of pigs blood will not kill nor hurt anyone, unless they think they cannot go to heaven, but anyone
who believes in that shit has bigger problems

Wow epic defensiveness, just admit that you are that minority ignorant American that gives the rest of your kind a bad name.

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« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2010, 12:23:39 PM »
What a terrible comparison.  I would take treatment from a doctor of any religion as long as he was qualified.  I am not against the Muslim religion (or any religion) but I am against foreign Muslims immigrating here and thinking their destiny is to take over Judeo-Christian Western nations like America.  The quiet well behaved ones do it (quietly) in pure numbers and the extremist ones fly planes into our buildings.
You don't see Christian or Jewish nations trying to overpower Muslim nations today do you? (I say "today" because I'm sure you will throw the Christian Crusades at me from many centuries ago). And you completely disregard the fact that the Muslims in Paris don't obtain the city permist ....they just do as they please (illegally).
Finally , if you are "not American" why do you even care about our concerns here? 
I care because I have family and friends that are American and I visit America at least three times a year and because Canada and America share many of the same values, Also what was America trying to do in Iraq other than force a culture change? What about America's support of Isreal? is that recent enought for you? Also FYI I am also against muslims trying to take over the west infact I am against any group trying to impose their religon on others, but for you to spread xenophobia like a tea party activist is just sad.  How about engaging people in debate? How about promoting understanding and freedom?  (core American and Canadian values).   In my experience you can win the culture war without spreading fear, It is BS for you to think that this will happen in NY.


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Re: Will New York become the new Muslim Paris? (disturbing clip)
« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2010, 12:25:24 PM »
That clip is obviously biased and meant to get people all riled up and worried, as it makes no mention of instances in the opposite direction where French gov't shows actions against the practice of Islam such as this:  

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/12/paris-pool-denies-muslim_n_257311.html

It's very far fetched to feel that Paris will be "Islamized" anytime soon.

Also, as a Muslim I know that spilling into the streets due to a mosque being full is not thought of as a "show of force" by 99% of the people praying, contrary to what the video claims.  They are probably almost as annoyed as the non-Muslims who want to drive on those streets as they prefer praying indoors and are hoping for their mosques to get enough money to grow or build new ones to fit everybody.  Also I haven't seen this sort of thing since the mosques in my city are large enough to contain almost everyone, but I would imagine what you see there is no longer than 5 minutes long and only once a week on Friday afternoon.  When local mosques get near-full many Muslims actually avoid going as they dont want to spill on to the street or have trouble finding parking, a place to put shoes, etc.

The video is simply trying to show everything in the most negative light as possible.

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Re: Will New York become the new Muslim Paris? (disturbing clip)
« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2010, 12:26:22 PM »
ag2 is yet another clueless fucktard that wants to convince the world that 99.99% of terrorists aren't Muslim.

Christian extremists? There have been 8 abortion related murders since 1996. Muslims kill far more than that every day. 'Nuf said.

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Re: Will New York become the new Muslim Paris? (disturbing clip)
« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2010, 12:26:30 PM »
Grant, it's been happening in NYC for a while. It's just worse in France. Whole streets being locked down by private security guards so the Muslims can pray (all of this is strictly outlawed by France's constitution).





Ok the flag buring pissed me off and someone should have stepped up and done something about it, if I saw someone burning my flag they would have to piss me off, As I said before the extremists deserve to die

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Re: Will New York become the new Muslim Paris? (disturbing clip)
« Reply #33 on: September 15, 2010, 12:30:12 PM »
ag2 is yet another clueless fucktard that wants to convince the world that 99.99% of terrorists aren't Muslim.

Christian extremists? There have been 8 abortion related murders since 1996. Muslims kill far more than that every day. 'Nuf said.

How many blacks killed by southerners? How many people did Mcveigh kill?  thanks for showing your ignorance.

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Re: Will New York become the new Muslim Paris? (disturbing clip)
« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2010, 12:32:08 PM »
This is an accurate picture of every Friday afternoon in several locations throughout NYC where there are mosques with a large number of Muslims that cannot fit into the mosque -- They fill the surrounding streets, facing east for a couple of hours between about 2 & 4 p.m. -- Besides this one at 42nd St & Madison Ave, there is another, even larger group, at 94th St & 3rd Ave, etc. -- Also, I presume, you are aware of the dispute over building another "high rise" Mosque a few blocks from "ground zero" -- With regard to that one, the "Imam" refuses to disclose where the $110 million dollars to build it is coming from and there is a lawsuit filed to force disclosure of that information.
  This is in NYC.  This is not France or the Middle East or Yemen or Kenya. 
If we don't wake up soon, we are going to "politically correct" ourselves right out of our own country.
 
Grant, is public worship banned in America? are their New York bylaws against blocking traffic?   you pulled that clip from CBN that did show the religon in the worst possible light.  Also funny how you have no comment on the huffington post article bobs posted.

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Re: Will New York become the new Muslim Paris? (disturbing clip)
« Reply #35 on: September 15, 2010, 12:33:04 PM »

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« Reply #36 on: September 15, 2010, 12:34:42 PM »
How many blacks killed by southerners? How many people did Mcveigh kill?  thanks for showing your ignorance.

Hahaha, here we go. The clueless fucktard shows his ignorance by coming out with the "McVeigh was a Christian extremist" argument.

How many black slaves have been killed by Muslims? In 2010 slavery is still actively practiced in many Muslim countries. Guess who drove the slave trade of black Africans? That's right, it was Muslims. ::)

People like you, who clearly have no clue what you're talking about, aren't worth debating.




Doctor: Saudi Family Hammered Nails Into Sri Lankan Maid

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(Aug. 25) -- A 50-year-old Sri Lankan woman who worked as a maid for a large family in Saudi Arabia for five months was allegedly tortured by some of the family members hammering nails into her body, doctors said.

The woman, who flew back to Colombo, Sri Lanka, from Riyadh on Saturday night, was brought to the hospital by her concerned children Monday. X-rays showed there were 23 nails embedded in her body.

"Some of the nails were 2 inches long," Dr. Prabath Gajadeera of Kamburupitiya Base Hospital told AOL News today. "Most of the nails were embedded in her arms and legs. She didn't even realize how many were in there."

Sri Lankan housemaid L.T. Ariyawathi, left, who returned from Saudi Arabia with nails inside her body, talks to a nurse while receiving treatment at a hospital in Batticaloa on Wednesday. Ariyawathi alleged that her Saudi employer had tortured her and drove nails into her body as punishment.
Gajadeera said the woman told doctors that the Saudi family allegedly tortured her with nails and threatened her life with knives during her employment with them.

"She didn't speak their language and they didn't understand her," Gajadeera said. "But she kept saying 'Sri Lanka, Sri Lanka, Sri Lanka' and they realized she wanted to go home. So they brought her to the airport."

Gajadeera said the woman did not say anything about the nails in her body at either the airport in Saudi Arabia when she was leaving nor when she arrived at the airport in Sri Lanka. The nails were apparently not detected by airport security devices, Gajadeera said.

She told her children about her injuries after her arrival, and they took her to the hospital, he said.

The Sri Lanka Bureau of Foreign Employment, who sent an envoy to the hospital to record her statement, plans to take action against the Saudi family who employed the woman and has informed the Sri Lankan Embassy in Riyadh and the Saudi Embassy in Sri Lanka, the Daily News of Sri Lanka reported today.

"The bureau will take every action to get maximum compensation from the employer for the inhumane treatment he and his family had inflicted on the maid by inserting nails in her body," said a bureau official identified as H. Batagoda.

A Sri Lankan TV network, Newsfirst Sirasa, spoke to the woman, who showed its reporter the marks from the nails on her body. She said some of the nails had been heated prior to insertion.

The woman, identified as Ariyawathi from the town of Matara, said there were many people in the Saudi household where she worked.

"I had to work continuously since I had to do the chores of all the occupants, and when I wanted to take rest due to tiredness, they inserted the nail in my body as a punishment," she told Newsfirst.

"I had to work from dawn to dusk. I hardly slept. They beat me and threatened to kill me and hide my body." She said she flew back to Sri Lanka at her own expense.

"They were really devils with no mercy at all," she said, adding that she believes they tortured her because she did not speak their language.

"I could not understand their orders and they were angry," she said.

Gajadeera said the woman told him that the male head of the household inserted the nails and his wife helped him. He said the family's children threatened the woman with knives.

Gajadeera said the woman had some pain while walking because of the embedded nails.

"It was shocking to hear," Ayabilleke Da Silva, editor at the Sri Lanka Daily News who oversaw the story, told AOL News today. "Such tortures are not heard of in Sri Lanka. It's beyond our imagination and our belief."

Saudi Arabia hosts more than 5.5 million foreign workers, many of them from Asian countries, and there have been reports for years that some of them are systematically mistreated with scant legal recourse.




Yeah, they're really tolerant and accepting of other cultures. That's why tens of thousands of southeast asian women are now slaves of wealthy Middle Easterners. Even seeing this in England.  ::)

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Re: Will New York become the new Muslim Paris? (disturbing clip)
« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2010, 12:36:10 PM »
That clip is obviously biased and meant to get people all riled up and worried, as it makes no mention of instances in the opposite direction where French gov't shows actions against the practice of Islam such as this:  

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/12/paris-pool-denies-muslim_n_257311.html

It's very far fetched to feel that Paris will be "Islamized" anytime soon.

Also, as a Muslim I know that spilling into the streets due to a mosque being full is not thought of as a "show of force" by 99% of the people praying, contrary to what the video claims.  They are probably almost as annoyed as the non-Muslims who want to drive on those streets as they prefer praying indoors and are hoping for their mosques to get enough money to grow or build new ones to fit everybody.  Also I haven't seen this sort of thing since the mosques in my city are large enough to contain almost everyone, but I would imagine what you see there is no longer than 5 minutes long and only once a week on Friday afternoon.  When local mosques get near-full many Muslims actually avoid going as they dont want to spill on to the street or have trouble finding parking, a place to put shoes, etc.

The video is simply trying to show everything in the most negative light as possible.



a very predictable answer from the biased minority


of course everything is a matter of prespective............. i have NO doubt Islamic leaders in Paris probably think the French Govt. is not doing Enough to aid muslims and make them feel welcome and not discriminated against


meanwhile, Joe on the street...........thinks his whole way of life is being Robbed from eastern hordes




the truth lies somewhere in the middle............but it is undeniable that Islam is making a conscious and deliberate effort to set deep roots in the western world


(after all your religion dictates that there will be no peace until the entire earth is ruled by a global islamic council)

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Re: Will New York become the new Muslim Paris? (disturbing clip)
« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2010, 12:36:48 PM »
Also funny how no one is yet to comment on all the way the US gov't screws over their own citezens as well as those overseas, If anything it will be the corrupt gov't that will make people turn their back on America and not some people exercising their constitutional right to freedom of religon, Why don;t we just turn the US into a police state circa Germany 1938?  I seem to remember they had an issue with a certain race of poeple as well and look what that led to.

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Re: Will New York become the new Muslim Paris? (disturbing clip)
« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2010, 12:37:30 PM »
On a lighter note, gotta admit some of these burqini girls are kinda cute lol:




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« Reply #40 on: September 15, 2010, 12:39:08 PM »
Hahaha, here we go. The clueless fucktard shows his ignorance by coming out with the "McVeigh was a Christian extremist" argument.

How many black slaves have been killed by Muslims? In 2010 slavery is still actively practiced in many Muslim countries. Guess who drove the slave trade of black Africans? That's right, it was Muslims. ::)

People like you, who clearly have no clue what you're talking about, aren't worth debating.




Doctor: Saudi Family Hammered Nails Into Sri Lankan Maid

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(Aug. 25) -- A 50-year-old Sri Lankan woman who worked as a maid for a large family in Saudi Arabia for five months was allegedly tortured by some of the family members hammering nails into her body, doctors said.

The woman, who flew back to Colombo, Sri Lanka, from Riyadh on Saturday night, was brought to the hospital by her concerned children Monday. X-rays showed there were 23 nails embedded in her body.

"Some of the nails were 2 inches long," Dr. Prabath Gajadeera of Kamburupitiya Base Hospital told AOL News today. "Most of the nails were embedded in her arms and legs. She didn't even realize how many were in there."

Sri Lankan housemaid L.T. Ariyawathi, left, who returned from Saudi Arabia with nails inside her body, talks to a nurse while receiving treatment at a hospital in Batticaloa on Wednesday. Ariyawathi alleged that her Saudi employer had tortured her and drove nails into her body as punishment.
Gajadeera said the woman told doctors that the Saudi family allegedly tortured her with nails and threatened her life with knives during her employment with them.

"She didn't speak their language and they didn't understand her," Gajadeera said. "But she kept saying 'Sri Lanka, Sri Lanka, Sri Lanka' and they realized she wanted to go home. So they brought her to the airport."

Gajadeera said the woman did not say anything about the nails in her body at either the airport in Saudi Arabia when she was leaving nor when she arrived at the airport in Sri Lanka. The nails were apparently not detected by airport security devices, Gajadeera said.
She told her children about her injuries after her arrival, and they took her to the hospital, he said.

The Sri Lanka Bureau of Foreign Employment, who sent an envoy to the hospital to record her statement, plans to take action against the Saudi family who employed the woman and has informed the Sri Lankan Embassy in Riyadh and the Saudi Embassy in Sri Lanka, the Daily News of Sri Lanka reported today.

"The bureau will take every action to get maximum compensation from the employer for the inhumane treatment he and his family had inflicted on the maid by inserting nails in her body," said a bureau official identified as H. Batagoda.

A Sri Lankan TV network, Newsfirst Sirasa, spoke to the woman, who showed its reporter the marks from the nails on her body. She said some of the nails had been heated prior to insertion.

The woman, identified as Ariyawathi from the town of Matara, said there were many people in the Saudi household where she worked.
"I had to work continuously since I had to do the chores of all the occupants, and when I wanted to take rest due to tiredness, they inserted the nail in my body as a punishment," she told Newsfirst.

"I had to work from dawn to dusk. I hardly slept. They beat me and threatened to kill me and hide my body." She said she flew back to Sri Lanka at her own expense.

"They were really devils with no mercy at all," she said, adding that she believes they tortured her because she did not speak their language.

"I could not understand their orders and they were angry," she said.

Gajadeera said the woman told him that the male head of the household inserted the nails and his wife helped him. He said the family's children threatened the woman with knives.

Gajadeera said the woman had some pain while walking because of the embedded nails.

"It was shocking to hear," Ayabilleke Da Silva, editor at the Sri Lanka Daily News who oversaw the story, told AOL News today. "Such tortures are not heard of in Sri Lanka. It's beyond our imagination and our belief."

Saudi Arabia hosts more than 5.5 million foreign workers, many of them from Asian countries, and there have been reports for years that some of them are systematically mistreated with scant legal recourse.



Yeah, they're really tolerant and accepting of other cultures. That's why tens of thousands of southeast asian women are now slaves of wealthy Middle Easterners. Even seeing this in England.  ::)
Don;t you have another gimmick to create?

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Re: Will New York become the new Muslim Paris? (disturbing clip)
« Reply #41 on: September 15, 2010, 12:40:18 PM »


a very predictable answer from the biased minority


of course everything is a matter of prespective............. i have NO doubt Islamic leaders in Paris probably think the French Govt. is not doing Enough to aid muslims and make them feel welcome and not discriminated against


meanwhile, Joe on the street...........thinks his whole way of life is being Robbed from eastern hordes




the truth lies somewhere in the middle............but it is undeniable that Islam is making a conscious and deliberate effort to set deep roots in the western world


(after all your religion dictates that there will be no peace until the entire earth is ruled by a global islamic council)

The govt should have stricter immigration laws

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« Reply #42 on: September 15, 2010, 12:41:16 PM »
the truth lies somewhere in the middle............but it is undeniable that Islam is making a conscious and deliberate effort to set deep roots in the western world

Trust me, a very small minority of Muslims see this as a "show of force" or want to "take over" western countries.  At least 90% of Muslims in the west don't even go to the mosque.

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Re: Will New York become the new Muslim Paris? (disturbing clip)
« Reply #43 on: September 15, 2010, 12:42:44 PM »
Hey Berzerk, did you want me to pull articles about all the Christian priests that molest kids? The Vatican cover up?  What about all the westerners convictied of child molestation and rape?  Your post only proves that their are assholes in every country, I can search out a hundred random articles and post them too but unlike you I have a job which I probably stole from some hard working white guy  ;D

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« Reply #44 on: September 15, 2010, 12:43:33 PM »
Teh gay is strong when people are still arguing religion and no one commented on the girls I posted  >:(

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« Reply #45 on: September 15, 2010, 12:44:22 PM »
Don;t you have another gimmick to create?

Brilliant rebuttal. Thanks for playing.

Like I said, not worth addressing.

Hey Berzerk, did you want me to pull articles about all the Christian priests that molest kids? The Vatican cover up?  What about all the westerners convictied of child molestation and rape?  Your post only proves that their are assholes in every country, I can search out a hundred random articles and post them too but unlike you I have a job which I probably stole from some hard working white guy  ;D

Christian priests that rape kids? Mohammed himself married a 6 year old girl and fucked her at 9, clearing the way for thousands of years of legalized pedophilia. While the western world condemns and prosecutes pedophiles, the Muslim world endorses, condones and encourages the marriage of children to much older men.

One of the most prominent figures of Shia Islam has said that it's alright to sodomize a baby but the man has to marry the infant and take care of her for life should he penetrate her vaginally.  ::)

Again, thanks for playing.

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Re: Will New York become the new Muslim Paris? (disturbing clip)
« Reply #46 on: September 15, 2010, 12:48:04 PM »
ag2 is yet another clueless fucktard that wants to convince the world that 99.99% of terrorists aren't Muslim.

Christian extremists? There have been 8 abortion related murders since 1996. Muslims kill far more than that every day. 'Nuf said.
Hmm do you know the estimates of the millions of people that have died from aids as a direct results of the popes disregard for condoms. Whats that.......... shit...... that's your theory falling off a cliff.
Trust me, a very small minority of Muslims see this as a "show of force" or want to "take over" western countries.  At least 90% of Muslims in the west don't even go to the mosque.
Pretty much but right wingers are getting them to unite pretty dam quick. They only get support out of fear of right wingers.
If you wanna stop the problem change the laws on religion. There should be a hate speech/freedom clause that states you cannot support anything that goes against the state. I.e. Consealment of identity(veils), poor treatment of women, poligamy, or anything else that causes a problem.
But that's rational makes sense and would save alot of headache.  

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Re: Will New York become the new Muslim Paris? (disturbing clip)
« Reply #47 on: September 15, 2010, 12:49:41 PM »

If you wanna stop the problem change the laws on religion. There should be a hate speech/freedom clause that states you cannot support anything that goes against the state. I.e. Consealment of identity(veils), poor treatment of women, poligamy, or anything else that causes a problem.
But that's rational makes sense and would save alot of headache.  

Support? There is a massive anti-immigration wave sweeping through Europe right now and it's all because Muslims are the only group incapable of assimilating into Western society. Even Angela Merkel, chancellor of Germany, has come out and said this in the last two weeks.

It's hilarious watching people like this loan-shirking community college reject spout out these lies.

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Re: Will New York become the new Muslim Paris? (disturbing clip)
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« Reply #49 on: September 15, 2010, 12:54:58 PM »
Brilliant rebuttal. Thanks for playing.

Like I said, not worth addressing.

Christian priests that rape kids? Mohammed himself married a 6 year old girl and fucked her at 9, clearing the way for thousands of years of legalized pedophilia. While the western world condemns and prosecutes pedophiles, the Muslim world endorses, condones and encourages the marriage of children to much older men.

One of the most prominent figures of Shia Islam has said that it's alright to sodomize a baby but the man has to marry the infant and take care of her for life should he penetrate her vaginally.  ::)

Again, thanks for playing.


Yeah again my point being that there are dicks on both cultures, google Vatican priest scandle if you don;t beleive me, also you know I am not muslim right?