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Football player test positive for HGH
« on: September 15, 2010, 05:57:36 PM »
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Friday, September 10, 2010
First North American Athlete Tests Positive for HGH
The four-year suspension of Matt Socholotiuk, the rookie running back at Ontario's University of Waterloo who was revealed this week to have tested positive for human growth hormone, has been reduced to three years. Socholotiuk is believed to be the first North American athlete caught with HGH in his system. “We have suspected HGH has been abused by certain athletes in an effort to cheat,” Paul Melia, president and chief executive officer of the Canadian Centre for Ethics in Sport, said in a statement. “We now have the proof. However, it is alarming and of great concern that its presence has been detected with our young athletes.”

Only five athletes in the world have been caught and sanctioned for HGH use, according to the Toronto Sun.

Socholotiuk was tested in March, along with 61 other members of the Waterloo Warriors. After nine players were suspected of doping infractions in what has been billed as the biggest steroids investigation in Canadian university history, Waterloo suspended its football program in June for one year. 

Socholotiuk, who is not registered to attend Waterloo this semester, was quoted as saying at a hearing decision on his suspension that the blood test for HGH is “very unreliable.” He also reportedly told an arbitrator that he didn’t know the testosterone he took was banned, and that he feels “ashamed and embarrassed.”

The breakthrough findings should prompt professional sports leagues to impose HGH testing, Melia told Toronto Star reporter Robert Cribb. They should “accept their social responsibility and take full advantage of the powerful role they can play in the fight against doping in sports. They need to stop sending a mixed message to our children ... that it is okay to cheat and to risk your health to set records and pursue winning at any cost.”

The Canadian Football League recently became the first professional sports league in North America to test for HGH, and Major League Baseball implemented HGH testing at the minor-league level in July.
 
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Re: Football player test positive for HGH
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2010, 06:02:38 PM »
"Ontario's University of Waterloo":


hahaha....do they play two-hand touch in some co-ed intramural league?  haha

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Re: Football player test positive for HGH
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2010, 06:46:35 PM »
"Ontario's University of Waterloo":


hahaha....do they play two-hand touch in some co-ed intramural league?  haha
Yeah well Napoleon laughed when he heard they were going to kick his ass there ( Waterloo) and look what happened ;)

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Re: Football player test positive for HGH
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2010, 07:07:28 PM »
I was wondering what the method of testing was to detect the HGH. It would be interesting in Natural BB and other supposedly drug free sports.

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Re: Football player test positive for HGH
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2010, 07:09:56 PM »
i wasnt aware there was a full-proof test for HGH yet, apparently im wrong

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Re: Football player test positive for HGH
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2010, 07:14:37 PM »
I think there's like a 48 hour half life I believe.

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Re: Football player test positive for HGH
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2010, 07:18:38 PM »
i wasnt aware there was a full-proof test for HGH yet, apparently im wrong
Yup! There is. Since the use and complete development of high resolution gas chromotography in drug testing, a lot more stuff can be detected if they really want to spend the time and the money doing it.
Remember, they caught sprinter Ben Johnson with 9 nanograms in his sys tem of winnie V and that was 22 yrs ago!
That is a mere  0.000000009 grams in his system.
In all modesty, the drug testing methods and analysis is something I know a lot more about than the avg guy who bodybuilds.

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Re: Football player test positive for HGH
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2010, 07:23:19 PM »
they caught sprinter Ben Johnson with 9 nanograms in his sys tem of winnie V and that was 22 yrs ago!
That is a mere  0.000000009 grams in his system.


 :o

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Re: Football player test positive for HGH
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2010, 07:58:06 PM »
I think there's like a 48 hour half life I believe.
That is what I thought and it was by a blood test. Who knows this athlete was dumb, he didn't even know the testosterone he was taking was banned. ???

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Re: Football player test positive for HGH
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2010, 08:03:54 PM »
Yup! There is. Since the use and complete development of high resolution gas chromotography in drug testing, a lot more stuff can be detected if they really want to spend the time and the money doing it.
Remember, they caught sprinter Ben Johnson with 9 nanograms in his sys tem of winnie V and that was 22 yrs ago!
That is a mere  0.000000009 grams in his system.
In all modesty, the drug testing methods and analysis is something I know a lot more about than the avg guy who bodybuilds.
Yeah. And Carl Lewis' '88 tests were nicely suppressed. So what?

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Re: Football player test positive for HGH
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2010, 08:07:11 PM »
i wasnt aware there was a full-proof test for HGH yet, apparently im wrong

I told this board years ago there was....of course no one believed me.

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Re: Football player test positive for HGH
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2010, 08:20:07 PM »
I told this board years ago there was....of course no one believed me.

there was not a test available YEARS ago......they perfected a  reliable test RECENTLY


as you saw in the article ..........this canadian footabll federation was the first organization to adopt this new test, followed by miner league baseball in america

obviously this is a relativly new test that is now being implemented'


but no, years ago, this test was not available , or it would have been used

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Re: Football player test positive for HGH
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2010, 08:25:26 PM »
lol Im Canadian and Canadian University Football is a joke among jokes
horrible quality play and athletes, 800 people go to games (yes 8 hundred),..its an absolute joke fest.

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Re: Football player test positive for HGH
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2010, 08:30:36 AM »
i wasnt aware there was a full-proof test for HGH yet, apparently im wrong

I thought the same as well ??

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Re: Football player test positive for HGH
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2010, 08:37:41 AM »
lol Im Canadian and Canadian University Football is a joke among jokes
horrible quality play and athletes, 800 people go to games (yes 8 hundred),..its an absolute joke fest.

So a decent 2A US high-school could smoke them?

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Re: Football player test positive for HGH
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2010, 08:38:51 AM »
I was wondering what the method of testing was to detect the HGH. It would be interesting in Natural BB and other supposedly drug free sports.
I always thought that you couldn't test for HGH. Our technology is not that good yet.

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Re: Football player test positive for HGH
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2010, 08:46:01 AM »
http://www.nflcanada.com/News/2008/04/25/5384861.html
From the CIS to the NFL

1945 Joe Krol, Western Ontario, K/RB.

1947 Les Lear, Manitoba, OG/OT.

1960 Bill Crawford, UBC, OG.

1965 Jim Young, Queen's, RB/R.

1976 Brian Fryer, Alberta, R.

1979 Ken Clark, Saint Mary's, P.

1986 Mike Schad, Queen's, OG.

1987 Brian Belway, Calgary, DE.

1987 Dave Sparenberg, Western Ontario, OG.

1987 Brant Bengen, UBC and Idaho, WR.

1988 Dean Dorsey, Toronto, K.

1992 Tyrone Williams, Western Ontario, WR.

1995 Tim Tindale, Western Ontario, RB.

1995 Mark Montreuil, Concordia, CB.

1998 Jerome Pathon, Acadia and Washington, R.

2001 Randy Chevrier, McGill, LS/DE.

2000 J.P. Darche, McGill, LS/LB.

2003 Israel Idonije, Manitoba, DL.

2004 Steve Morley, Saint Mary's, OG/OT.

2006 Daniel Federkeil, Calgary, DE.

2006 Jon Ryan, Regina, K.

http://www.cisfootball.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7740
I figured I'd track attendance this year. I'm always curious how teams do all year.

Week 1
Laval - 13,221
Western - 8,201
Ottawa - 6,274
McMaster - 4,033 (A), 5,630 (B) (Average: 4,832)
Montreal - 5,100
Toronto - 4,111
Regina - 2,801
Calgary - 2,074
Bishop's - 1,857
UBC - 940
Guelph - 913
Windsor - Unreported
York - Unreported

National Average (excluding the unreported games): 4,596

It can't be that bad if athletes keep getting tryouts down in NFL.
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Re: Football player test positive for HGH
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2010, 08:53:56 AM »
http://www.nflcanada.com/News/2008/04/25/5384861.html
From the CIS to the NFL

1945 Joe Krol, Western Ontario, K/RB.

1947 Les Lear, Manitoba, OG/OT.

1960 Bill Crawford, UBC, OG.

1965 Jim Young, Queen's, RB/R.

1976 Brian Fryer, Alberta, R.

1979 Ken Clark, Saint Mary's, P.

1986 Mike Schad, Queen's, OG.

1987 Brian Belway, Calgary, DE.

1987 Dave Sparenberg, Western Ontario, OG.

1987 Brant Bengen, UBC and Idaho, WR.

1988 Dean Dorsey, Toronto, K.

1992 Tyrone Williams, Western Ontario, WR.

1995 Tim Tindale, Western Ontario, RB.

1995 Mark Montreuil, Concordia, CB.

1998 Jerome Pathon, Acadia and Washington, R.

2001 Randy Chevrier, McGill, LS/DE.

2000 J.P. Darche, McGill, LS/LB.

2003 Israel Idonije, Manitoba, DL.

2004 Steve Morley, Saint Mary's, OG/OT.

2006 Daniel Federkeil, Calgary, DE.

2006 Jon Ryan, Regina, K.

http://www.cisfootball.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7740
I figured I'd track attendance this year. I'm always curious how teams do all year.

Week 1
Laval - 13,221
Western - 8,201
Ottawa - 6,274
McMaster - 4,033 (A), 5,630 (B) (Average: 4,832)
Montreal - 5,100
Toronto - 4,111
Regina - 2,801
Calgary - 2,074
Bishop's - 1,857
UBC - 940
Guelph - 913
Windsor - Unreported
York - Unreported

National Average (excluding the unreported games): 4,596

It can't be that bad if athletes keep getting tryouts down in NFL.

I'm a lifelong diehard NFL fan and the only guy on that list I've heard of is Jerome Pathon..... and getting a tryout or attending a camp isn't that big a deal.  Some teams even open ones....especially in the 70's and 80's.

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Re: Football player test positive for HGH
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2010, 09:16:28 AM »
I'm a lifelong diehard NFL fan and the only guy on that list I've heard of is Jerome Pathon..... and getting a tryout or attending a camp isn't that big a deal.  Some teams even open ones....especially in the 70's and 80's.

Jon Ryan is still kicking for the Seahawks.

The top 20 players in the CIS all had tryouts for NFL teams.
2 or 3 players every year play in the Shrine bowl.
With some getting NFL tryouts.

When the NAIA folded, Simon Frasier went back into the CIS and did not win a national championship.
Simon Frasier is going into the NCAA as a division 2 school this year.
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