America, you are at a crossroad

[TacoBell]

I think i misunderstood the message of your post. I think your were talking about druggies who are willing to do any drug on the table, in that aspect then I agree with you that any drug is a drug.  But comparing like a recretional MJ user vs a recretional coke user is apples and oranges.

Perhaps, but I still dont see the point of criminalizing recreational drug use in general.  Personally, I havent used any drugs in a long long time, but Id much sooner go to vegas with 2 balls of coke, party all night long, blowing lines with some skanks, stay up and go straight to a pool party or something on sunday and finally crash on a plane home at 10pm sunday night, then sit around smoking blunts and playing vidoe games. But in either scenario, im hurting no one but myself. 

And ill go one step further.  I dont care if you want to be a dope junkie and shoot heroin everyday.  As long as you can function in society its no business of mine.  However, if you have to steal etc to support your habbit, then u got straight to jail.  And if you test positive for ANY drug, no government assistance of anykind, and that includes weed.  The problem in this country is that we dont want to punish dope heads, rather we foot the bill for rehab and methadone, meanwhile, we prosecute the guys growing weed and importing HGH.  Because those people can be robbed by the system as they have assets to steal, whereas the junkie does not. 

[Grape Ape]

Chrchill

I think that's a common misconception.  I think Francois Guisot is the real answer.

[Coach is Back!]

Thank God there's only about 48 more days. BTW Lundgren, as much as liberals hate to say it, the "blame Bush" is exhausting to listen to especially since it was Oshithead and his band of idiots made it a 1000000000x's worse. Shit got old along time ago!

[CalvinH]

I went down to the crossroads and tried to take a right.

[Parker]

A task force must be created to crack down on illegal immigrants...How will we do this?  A national ID card will replace all forms of ID.  It is scannable if you don't have one, you can't buy shit, go to a hospital (non-emergency) get housing or work...Simple as that.  You cut off all this stuff, people will leave. Anyone found to be aiding or abetting illegals will be fined and or jailed.

Military service is now mandatory for EVERYONE at the age of 18 for two years....EVEN the rich or soon to be rich aka athletes.Leave it up to states to legalize MJ.  BUT MJ will be decriminalized by the feds.
Build real walls or whatever the fuck to protect our boarders and increase the  manpower.
.

1) This was said about those who aided and abetted slaves, over 100 yrs ago.
2)Who the hell am i gonna fight, lets face it, all the wars after WWII have been booty wars that we needed to not be in. The real fight should be here on home soil, and the real invasion, is drugs, greed,  foreign ass cheap products, and illegals...America has gotten addicted to cheap ass products, whose quality is as low as the price
 

[delta9mda]

Morally
Economically
Culturally


Today it was reported that housing foreclosures are up 25% from last year for the month of Aug.
It was also reported that 43 million Americans or 14.3% of Americans are below the poverty line.  The highest since 1994.

I don't need to go into the slew of other problems we face as we debate them constantly.


I will say that how this ends or whatever choices we make i.e. the people we vote into office  will have a larger than normal impact.

We are pretty fucked up right now...But this beautiful country will bounce back and be better than ever....

P.S. Don't need a spiele about how we aren't really poor....Everything is relative so fuck off.


Morally we need to go much more conservative....wanna know why? Turn on your television.
Culturally, we need to always have our (America's) interests in hand...Preserving our way of life, our principles and what we stand for.  By assimilating and I don't mean dying your hair blonde and getting blue contacts.  You can preserve your heritage but we are asking,...no we are telling you that you must abide by our customs and courtesies.


Economically,

Cut taxes for small businesses
Cut taxes for the middle class or anyone making under $500,000 (better than the 250k)
Continue fighting for additional health care reform.
Severe tax breaks for companies that build things here....I call it the "MADE IN AMERICA" initiative.  I don't mean some slimy bullshit like making a door in the U.S. and the rest of the car in Mexico and saying techinically it was made in America....ALL OF IT needs to be made here.
Limit the length of time members can serve in Congress and the Senate.
Political reform - Lobbyist and special interest groups no longer allowed to give to political candidates in addition to other political reform.
Education system reform.....SEVERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!  The name of this game is VOUCHERS.
If you are FAT as fuck smoke or have some other self induced disorder it's gonna affect you...expect higher premiums....MUCH HIGHER...
A task force must be created to crack down on illegal immigrants...How will we do this?  A national ID card will replace all forms of ID.  It is scannable if you don't have one, you can't buy shit, go to a hospital (non-emergency) get housing or work...Simple as that.  You cut off all this stuff, people will leave. Anyone found to be aiding or abetting illegals will be fined and or jailed.
Military service is now mandatory for EVERYONE at the age of 18 for two years....EVEN the rich or soon to be rich aka athletes.
Leave it up to states to legalize MJ.  BUT MJ will be decriminalized by the feds.
Build real walls or whatever the fuck to protect our boarders and increase the  manpower.
Banking and Wallstreet reform...White collar crime will have the same penalties as other crimes...Expect alot more jailtime and fines....The rich peoples days of getting rich through scheming are over...
Alternative energy sources SEVERE tax breaks eventually getting away from big oil...fuck big oil and all those in charge.
Stiffer penalities for drug dealers cocaine = same as crack.
Establish English as the national language of the U.S.
Reform for people that want to go to college, undergrad, graduate and post grad school so they aren't in debt for the next 30 years.
No big government lots of cuts.

Personal responsibility will be America's new mantra....We will no longer continue down the road of being a welfare state.  

God Bless America

Wiggs Approved....BTW no I'm not high....discuss.

get rid of the obama agenda and we will be good to go

[Parker]

get rid of the obama agenda and we will be good to go

Really, who would you suggest, America has been going down hill way before Obama, the baby boomer generation is responsible to this idiotic downhill swing...Me, Me, Me...my Happiness, eff the kids,etc

[Coach is Back!]

No...not "way" before Obama. Bush fucked about the 2-3 months before the end of his term. Like I said before, instead of stopping the bleeding he made it a 100000000x's worse.

[TacoBell]

RON PAUL

[Parker]

No...not "way" before Obama. Bush fucked about the 2-3 months before the end of his term. Like I said before, instead of stopping the bleeding he made it a 100000000x's worse.

Yes, way waaaaaay...We've been on this slide long before...ya'll mofos just enjoyed being in the playground and couldn't see that recess had ended. The signs were constantly on wall. The big thee auto makers kept producing crap while Japan study the market and made quality economical cars, yrs later, GM and FORD was still trying to keep up, but they had been producing good stuff over seas. Now, a bail out for them, and now they finally bring that good shit over here.

Japan became a electronics king, Walkman,Discman, TVs, etc, while American firms and corps floundered, nobody said shit. Now most of drive foreign cars and most of us have foreign electronics and goods in our houses...nobody said shit about why America firms and corps weren't producin, nor trying to help, you guys drop the damn ball...don't give bullets to someone's  gun, then complain that the person shot you...Aeerica is a reactionary country, not a proactive country.  And the one's in charge counted on people like you to continue on the bullshit path of hedonism and Me, Me, Me, and now ya'll mofs get upset.

It's kinda like a disobedient child, you don't wait till he is 11 to start disciplining him, it's too late, you do it when they are younger...So, when the problems had started surfacing, you note it and curb it, the generation before X and Y didn't do that... 

[DK II]

I think that's a common misconception.  I think Francois Guisot is the real answer.

LOL!! Actually you are right, but i figuered nobody here would realize an 18th century french philosopher so i didn't bother.

It goes by Churchill, that's enough for the average american. 

[phreak]

Yes, way waaaaaay...We've been on this slide long before...ya'll mofos just enjoyed being in the playground and couldn't see that recess had ended. The signs were constantly on wall. The big thee auto makers kept producing crap while Japan study the market and made quality economical cars, yrs later, GM and FORD was still trying to keep up, but they had been producing good stuff over seas. Now, a bail out for them, and now they finally bring that good shit over here.

Japan became a electronics king, Walkman,Discman, TVs, etc, while American firms and corps floundered, nobody said shit. Now most of drive foreign cars and most of us have foreign electronics and goods in our houses...nobody said shit about why America firms and corps weren't producin, nor trying to help, you guys drop the damn ball...don't give bullets to someone's  gun, then complain that the person shot you...Aeerica is a reactionary country, not a proactive country.  And the one's in charge counted on people like you to continue on the bullshit path of hedonism and Me, Me, Me, and now ya'll mofs get upset.

It's kinda like a disobedient child, you don't wait till he is 11 to start disciplining him, it's too late, you do it when they are younger...So, when the problems had started surfacing, you note it and curb it, the generation before X and Y didn't do that... 

Exactly.

And AFAIK real wages in the US haven't risen since what? The 70s or so? Talk about one long, bipartisan clusterfuck...

[newmom]

this.

I don't blame obama for the mess, but he certainly didn't help matters any

[Tito24]

where can i donate money??

[spinnis]

You were doing so well, but legalize MJ and stiffen penalties for drugs??  Complete contradiction.  Coke is no worse than MJ in my opinion so leave out the arbitrary rationalization.

incredible

[Tito24]

[spinnis]

Sweden has handled the economic crisis best of all european countries apparently. there is a fancier word for it which I cant remember

[phreak]

Sweden has handled the economic crisis best of all european countries apparently. there is a fancier word for it which I cant remember

fraud?

[Lundgren]

Thank God there's only about 48 more days. BTW Lundgren, as much as liberals hate to say it, the "blame Bush" is exhausting to listen to especially since it was Oshithead and his band of idiots made it a 1000000000x's worse. Shit got old along time ago!

Obama has don anything, besides gives speachs, and the baiolout. The bailout would of happened regardless who's in office.  Regardless until people see how they fucked up in the past their not gonna improve. I ain't no fucking liberal btw. It's these character attacks on a guy just because of bush guilt that gets to me .

If american's can't understand how basic mistakes like the iraq war fucked a country they got no where to start in recovery.  America has alot of potential, being conservative is one of their assets. If they can get their people to save money,  get these unions out of the way so they can start putting in cheap industry, and if shred military spending. Ron Paul should of been prez IMO.

[phreak]

Obama has don anything, besides gives speachs, and the baiolout. The bailout would of happened regardless who's in office.

Exactly. As if McCain would have told the banks, Fanny, Freddy and AIG to go fuck themselves.  He got paid by them too, so he would have bent over for them just the same. People that look at this from a fixed denomination are simpletons.

[Lundgren]

Exactly. As if McCain would have told the banks, Fanny, Freddy and AIG to go fuck themselves.  He got paid by them too, so he would have bent over for them just the same. People that look at this from a fixed denomination are simpletons.

Well bail out where a global issues. Even canada had a stimulus package, when were we best off banking wise, and the media wasn't, they were watching this shit 24/7 scaring the living piss out of investors.  People seem not to realize how much announcement of the bailout stabilized markets. But again Obama is not worth talking about he did nothing good or bad, he's very forgettable. Bush's legacy however will be written in text books for the rest of the century. 

[Wiggs]

One thing I forgot is we will re-evaluate who we give money to and for what reasons...

i.e.  Israel getting shitloads of money every year since forever....FUCK THAT and other country that freeloads from us...We will re-evaluate our position on the Israel/Palestinian conflict.  I'm not saying were quitting I'm saying we are thinking about stepping back and keeping our nose out of it unless there is an emergency.

Parker, so what they said it about slaves 100+ years ago that's how things were. It's the right thing to do any fucker that breaks that law is looking at some serious jail time and if they're rich, lets just say they'll have a helluva fine and will be used as an example.

Lots of other countries have mandatory military service and don't get involved in our wars...There are tons of non combat positions....this is a good thing.

 

[The Showstoppa]

I worked in the mortgage industry from 01 to 05 and even that far back I was saying what was going to happen to the housing market eventually.  We were giving loans to people that would have been laughed at previously because the standards kept getting lower and lower....being set by the lenders of course.....and they KNEW what would happen eventually....so they just rode it until it blew up and then went to the govt with their hands out.....and all political parties are at least partly at fault for it.

[jon cole]

Morally
Economically
Culturally


Today it was reported that housing foreclosures are up 25% from last year for the month of Aug.
It was also reported that 43 million Americans or 14.3% of Americans are below the poverty line.  The highest since 1994.

I don't need to go into the slew of other problems we face as we debate them constantly.


I will say that how this ends or whatever choices we make i.e. the people we vote into office  will have a larger than normal impact.

We are pretty fucked up right now...But this beautiful country will bounce back and be better than ever....

P.S. Don't need a spiele about how we aren't really poor....Everything is relative so fuck off.


Morally we need to go much more conservative....wanna know why? Turn on your television.
Culturally, we need to always have our (America's) interests in hand...Preserving our way of life, our principles and what we stand for.  By assimilating and I don't mean dying your hair blonde and getting blue contacts.  You can preserve your heritage but we are asking,...no we are telling you that you must abide by our customs and courtesies.


Economically,

Cut taxes for small businesses
Cut taxes for the middle class or anyone making under $500,000 (better than the 250k)
Continue fighting for additional health care reform.
Severe tax breaks for companies that build things here....I call it the "MADE IN AMERICA" initiative.  I don't mean some slimy bullshit like making a door in the U.S. and the rest of the car in Mexico and saying techinically it was made in America....ALL OF IT needs to be made here.
Limit the length of time members can serve in Congress and the Senate.
Political reform - Lobbyist and special interest groups no longer allowed to give to political candidates in addition to other political reform.
Education system reform.....SEVERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!  The name of this game is VOUCHERS.
If you are FAT as fuck smoke or have some other self induced disorder it's gonna affect you...expect higher premiums....MUCH HIGHER...
A task force must be created to crack down on illegal immigrants...How will we do this?  A national ID card will replace all forms of ID.  It is scannable if you don't have one, you can't buy shit, go to a hospital (non-emergency) get housing or work...Simple as that.  You cut off all this stuff, people will leave. Anyone found to be aiding or abetting illegals will be fined and or jailed.
Military service is now mandatory for EVERYONE at the age of 18 for two years....EVEN the rich or soon to be rich aka athletes.
Leave it up to states to legalize MJ.  BUT MJ will be decriminalized by the feds.
Build real walls or whatever the fuck to protect our boarders and increase the  manpower.
Banking and Wallstreet reform...White collar crime will have the same penalties as other crimes...Expect alot more jailtime and fines....The rich peoples days of getting rich through scheming are over...
Alternative energy sources SEVERE tax breaks eventually getting away from big oil...fuck big oil and all those in charge.
Stiffer penalities for drug dealers cocaine = same as crack.
Establish English as the national language of the U.S.
Reform for people that want to go to college, undergrad, graduate and post grad school so they aren't in debt for the next 30 years.
No big government lots of cuts.

Personal responsibility will be America's new mantra....We will no longer continue down the road of being a welfare state.  

God Bless America

Wiggs Approved....BTW no I'm not high....discuss.

Yep can't be more agree with you.

but i add:

-create a license that allow you to have children, i mean several test about general culture, behaviour, valeur, economical statut etc, to stop the proliferation of human parasite.
-don't let muslim invade your country, and for legal muslim immigrant control them.
-personnal responsability, sense of valor should be new mantra...

[jesusbod]

That reads like the wish list of all wish lists. Admit to the corruptions and failures of George Bush, And you'd start making some progress. Corruption is the issue regardless of outcome.

this guy makes you think a little.

i wondered when somone would blame George Bush.. you are naive to think George Bush started all this crap.

Wiggs= On the right track.. You sound like a Tea Party member... Good for you...