Layne Norton - What is the consensus on his status [natural/enhanced]?

[WillGrant]

[Tito24]

[WillGrant]

yummmm any more pics ?  but a bit more advanced in the proceeedings 

[JP_RC]

In the pic posted he definitively looks natural, not really that impressive. Add that to the fact that the pic may actually make him look bigger than he really is then you can't really be that impressed and question his nattie status.

Oh, and great pics at the end of the thread. 

[TommyBoy]

looks natural to me

I'd say the same. Doesn't look any more impressive than I do and I've been a lifetime natty

[TRIX]

You are a 130 lb knome, girls even look big to you.

[jtsunami]

lanes a drug user always has been since he got serious about lifting weights, he just doesn't respond well to hormones.

[HTexan]

lanes a drug user always has been since he got serious about lifting weights, he just doesn't respond well to hormones.

If he doesn't respond well, what the point of doing them?

[jtsunami]

cause he wants to be as big as he possibly can be, he wasn't satisfied with what he had naturally so more is always better than nothing at all.

[HTexan]

cause he wants to be as big as he possibly can be, he wasn't satisfied with what he had naturally so more is always better than nothing at all.

if that's true, that's sad. 

[Howard]

I think you might be right.  If I my deadlift was closing in on 500 at 170 and eating fuck all, I could only imagine it would be a lot higher if I just tried.  For a guy with Layne's dedication and limb length advantage, 600 is believable to me.  But the thing is, now he is deadlifting 700 or more, so I admit I do have my doubts about him at times.  What is the highest deadlift?

Layne is a strong guy that developed his physique via old school hard training and strict diet.
He also has a PhD in the area of protein biochemistry, from a decent research Univ.
He is as legitimate as they come. Give him credit.
Plus, the pro natty organization he competes in is pretty stringent on the drug testing.

I would be curious as to what actual evidance anyone has to refute his natural status.

[ThaRealist]

To tell the truth I don't give a damn if he is natural or not....He has shit for structure...He has used before if this helps

[Howard]

lanes a drug user always has been since he got serious about lifting weights, he just doesn't respond well to hormones.

Ok, so you have a record of his failed drug tests and know for a fact what he took or when he took it?
No! Of course not. Your so called "proof" is because you say so. Please.....
C'mon now, you do have some actual facts , right? Is the best you can  do is  "saying" he uses drugs.
THAT is really your argument? Are you kidding me? Do you realize how silly and lame that sounds.

I can "say" that aliens from Uranus laned on the White House lawn and talked with the President.
You can always get a few wackos to believe anything.

[Howard]

cause he wants to be as big as he possibly can be, he wasn't satisfied with what he had naturally so more is always better than nothing at all.

I guess you either read his mind or you know a friend who is the sister of his Uncle's barber, right?

[ThaRealist]

I guess you either read his mind or you know a friend who is the sister of his Uncle's barber, right?

Howard why is it soo important either way?? He has a shitty structure?

[Howard]

To tell the truth I don't give a damn if he is natural or not....He has shit for structure...He has used before if this helps

and YOUR proof is? I am waiting for some actual verfied facts, not some bro talk, c'mon guys is this the best you can do? Really?

[Howard]

Howard why is it soo important either way?? He has a shitty structure?

I don't have a dog in this fight. If you want to say he has a lousy BB structure ok , fair enough.
What pisses me off is claiming a decent , honest guy like Layne is juiced simply because someone says so, with no actual proof.
It pisses me off because it such a lame , nonsense argument or claim on your side.
As  a natural pro it is a bit of slander and personal attack on the man .
If you wish to make this kind of claim come at it with some decent argument to back up your claim. Saying you just know is silly. If that is the best anyone can do, the claim is frivilous and silly.

[ThaRealist]

I don't have a dog in this fight. If you want to say he has a lousy BB structure ok , fair enough.
What pisses me off is claiming a decent , honest guy like Layne is juiced simply because someone says so, with no actual proof.
It pisses me off because it such a lame , nonsense argument or claim on your side.
As  a natural pro it is a bit of slander and personal attack on the man .
If you wish to make this kind of claim come at it with some decent argument to back up your claim. Saying you just know is silly. If that is the best anyone can do, the claim is frivilous and silly.

Why do you feel the need to fight his fight??? Are you hoping maybe he will drop his pants and let you give him a thank you blow job???

[Howard]

Why do you feel the need to fight his fight??? Are you hoping maybe he will drop his pants and let you give him a thank you blow job???

LOL, good one. No I am not fighting.
In fact I would love a good debate on this issue.
What pisses me off is trying to debate and the other side's main pt is " I say so".
It is like playing catch and the other guys refuses to even try to catch the ball .
Give me some actual reason, some logic that makes your pint, anything tangible that makes a decent argument.

Plus , I like and admire Layne and know how hard the guy has worked .

[jtsunami]

Why do you feel the need to fight his fight??? Are you hoping maybe he will drop his pants and let you give him a thank you blow job???

lol x2, get's awful worked up about this guy.  how can you admire a guy that makes money from lying.

[Howard]

lol x2, get's awful worked up about this guy.  how can you admire a guy that makes money from lying.

Once again, I assume you have some form of proof he is lying , right?

This " I just say so and I know" crap is what bugs me.

Maybe you just don't like Layne, which is your right. No biggy.
But if you are going to slander the man at least have something more than " I say he is lying".
Please, tell me you got more than just that?

[WillGrant]

Once again, I assume you have some form of proof he is lying , right?

This " I just say so and I know" crap is what bugs me.

Maybe you just don't like Layne, which is your right. No biggy.
But if you are going to slander the man at least have something more than " I say he is lying".
Please, tell me you got more than just that?

Do you have proof he isnt lying ?

Look at basic facts and that will give you the answer..its not hard to seperate the wheat from the chaff but to many idiots like to close there eyes and beleive lies. 

[jtsunami]

Once again, I assume you have some form of proof he is lying , right?

This " I just say so and I know" crap is what bugs me.

Maybe you just don't like Layne, which is your right. No biggy.
But if you are going to slander the man at least have something more than " I say he is lying".
Please, tell me you got more than just that?

do we have proof that lance armstrong doped...no but it is obvious he did.  It might not be as obvious with layne, but the truth is he juices if you don't see that oh well.

[Howard]

do we have proof that lance armstrong doped...no but it is obvious he did.  It might not be as obvious with layne, but the truth is he juices if you don't see that oh well.

Actually we do in the form of the French cycling federations report they released.
We also have a laundry list of first hand witnesses that he rode with and they will testity to his useage in interview and in hearings ON THE RECORD.

Once again, do you have any report, failed drug test, reliable firsthand witness, etc about Layne' use of steroids>
Ya gotta have actual legit names, dates, places so we can all verfiy the claim. Just saying you "THINK" something is true is fine on a message board so long as you realize that it is your OPINION, not actual evidance. See the difference?

[WillGrant]

Actually we do in the form of the French cycling federations report they released.
We also have a laundry list of first hand witnesses that he rode with and they will testity to his useage in interview and in hearings ON THE RECORD.

Once again, do you have any report, failed drug test, reliable firsthand witness, etc about Layne' use of steroids>
Ya gotta have actual legit names, dates, places so we can all verfiy the claim. Just saying you "THINK" something is true is fine on a message board so long as you realize that it is your OPINION, not actual evidance. See the difference?

Well using your logic Ronnie Coleman is natural , so is Usain Bolt So are all the top FootBall players even though logic and a certain look says the opposite.