Layne Norton - What is the consensus on his status [natural/enhanced]?

[wes mantooth]

is there an "i dont care" button somewhere on this internets thing?

[Howard]

Well using your logic Ronnie Coleman is natural , so is Usain Bolt So are all the top FootBall players even though logic and a certain look says the opposite.

1. Ronnie was clean enough to pass a real urine test twice when he won his class at the IFBB amatuer world's to go pro. He didn't win the NPC Nationals but was the only hvy wt that placed who was willing to take and then pass the drug test.

2. He came into the pros with a drug tested wt of 217 and was a full grown man with many years of lifting already under his belt.
He ended up in the UNtested pros with a top, ripped wt of 286 lbs, a muscle gain of 70 lbs!!!

Looking at the facts of how much he gained in pure muscle size AFTER he stopped being drug tested is pretty decent evidance in my opinion.

[Howard]

Some people cannot handle the fact that Layne is bigger and stronger than them and these insecurities drive these threads.

I suspect you are right and that feeds some of it, no question.

A typical gym rat may not be that powerful or a big. They know that the big pros all use lots of juice.
Since they don't want to risk it or don't have access, they have a good excuse ready to rationalize their lack of progress.
" You can't get big without a lot of juce".

Along comes a powerful guy like Layne with a good natty physique.
Now we have a conflict in their belief system and the excuse doesn't seem so good now.
It is tough to admit that guy is better due to good genetics and plain hard work.
In the end it wasn't a lack of drugs that was the big reason. No, it was that you suck as a lifter and bodybuilder.
That reality is more than most can take.

[WillGrant]

1. Ronnie was clean enough to pass a real urine test twice when he won his class at the IFBB amatuer world's to go pro. He didn't win the NPC Nationals but was the only hvy wt that placed who was willing to take and then pass the drug test.

2. He came into the pros with a drug tested wt of 217 and was a full grown man with many years of lifting already under his belt.
He ended up in the UNtested pros with a top, ripped wt of 286 lbs, a muscle gain of 70 lbs!!!

Looking at the facts of how much he gained in pure muscle size AFTER he stopped being drug tested is pretty decent evidance in my opinion.

Ronnie has never competed naturaly..you complain about the standards of the IFBB but its blind old guys like you that make these standards FFS are you this stupid ?

[jtsunami]

I suspect you are right and that feeds some of it, no question.

A typical gym rat may not be that powerful or a big. They know that the big pros all use lots of juice.
Since they don't want to risk it or don't have access, they have a good excuse ready to rationalize their lack of progress.
" You can't get big without a lot of juce".

Along comes a powerful guy like Layne with a good natty physique.
Now we have a conflict in their belief system and the excuse doesn't seem so good now.
It is tough to admit that guy is better due to good genetics and plain hard work.
In the end it wasn't a lack of drugs that was the big reason. No, it was that you suck as a lifter and bodybuilder.
That reality is more than most can take.

no its people who use and know many people who do what they look like on off, it's easy to spot a natural vs user, and ronnie wasn't natural when he turned pro jesus man

[jtsunami]

Ronnie has never competed naturaly..you complain about the standards of the IFBB but its blind old guys like you that make these standards FFS are you this stupid ?

x2

[wes]

ttt

[~UN_$ung~]

some of you will NEVER understand.............y ou think Layne is your buddy, and would have no reason to lie to you


you might want to notice that within the fitness world, layne is branding himself..........he is turning his name and his image into a commodity.,,,,,,,,a product if you will


his goal is money and notoriety........with his personal training, website, md contract, books, contest prep, videos........and whatever he seeks to do in the future is done with the intention of making money off his brand

any of you ever stop to think why you even know layne norton's name.......he a shitbird who competed in some 3rd rate organization a couple of times............HE IS BRANDING HIMSELF, MARKETING HIMSELF

when someone wants to sell something to make money and get fame..........do you think truth matters

all these celebrities in hollywood.........you think truth matters........you think they are who they say they are........who you see talkin g to Oprah

now, other companies...........food companies, drug companies, electronic companies, asbestos companies, car companies............do they have a problem lying to you to sell products??

question.......HAVE CORPORATE ENTITIES EVER HAD PROBLEMS LYING OR BEING DISHONEST WITH THE PUBLIC IN ORDER TO SELL THEIR PRODUCTS??

answer.........NO


and guess what..........neither does Layne



he's out to sell product idiots, that product is layne norton...............it doesnt matter what the truth is, you will learn in marketing 101.............PERCEPTI ON IS REALITY


and obviously, by the looks of all the naive little boys all over the internet...........the perception he creates is being bought in full by the dummies here

[Howard]

no its people who use and know many people who do what they look like on off, it's easy to spot a natural vs user, and ronnie wasn't natural when he turned pro jesus man

WOW ! I am impressed. 
 The IOC and various natural organizations can save a lot of money now thanks to you.
They no longer need to pay the expenses for actual drug testing.
Now , they can just have you ( and your bros) LOOK AT someone and BOOM... 100% acurate drug testing results.
Soory Layne you are disqualified for a positive drug test. jtsunami from get big looked at you and said you were juiced.

You are really serious with the "you can tell by looking" test" . This was your best shot and counter to my argument?
OMG! You guys are too much hehehehehehehe 

[jude2]

Just to let you guys know Layne won his first Natural Pro show today.

[WillGrant]

Just to let you guys know Layne won his first Natural Pro show today.

As natural as cock flavoured yoghurt (Howies fave BTW) 

[Matt C]

Is Layne natural? 

[WillGrant]

Is Layne natural? 

No, stop being a silly kunt like Howard

[Van_Bilderass]

Is Layne natural? 

Why don't you give your own opinion first? You've got plenty of experience with hormones yourself and can see the signs. What do you say?

[WillGrant]

Is Layne Jewish 

Fixed 

[wes]

He looks great .....I could give two shits about the thread.

This topic`s been done to death for years.

[TrueGrit]

I thought he admitted taking Superdrol. There was defo talk of that on here years ago.

[Van_Bilderass]

I thought he admitted taking Superdrol. There was defo talk of that on here years ago.

No. Never admitted using any hormone. No aromatase inhibitors either. Has admitted nothing. Only drug he's admitted to using is Adderall for ADHD.

[Meso_z]

No. Never admitted using any hormone. No aromatase inhibitors either. Has admitted nothing. Only drug he's admitted to using is Adderall for ADHD.

He hasnt tried steroids but yet admits he has tried amphetamines!! haha, amazing isnt it?

[Howard]

Just to let you guys know Layne won his first Natural Pro show today.

Layne won a natty pro event and passed a fairly stringent drug testing procdure in his current natty pro organization.

Now, we have many "experts" on here , posting under some cpu name, that  know for a fact he isn't natural.
Their proof: You can tell by just LOOKING at a picture of him. 

Layne is actually doing somehing REAL in the actual world of bodybuilding.
On the other hand most of you losers are posting threads about him.
Sounds like a bunch of jealous bitches to me 

[Van_Bilderass]

You can tell by just LOOKING at a picture of him. 

How do you know every IFBB pro is on drugs (which is what you've said)? Do you know them all and know what they do? Or do you judge them just by looking at them?

[Howard]

How do you know every IFBB pro is on drugs (which is what you've said)? Do you know them all and know what they do? Or do you judge them just by looking at them?

Good question. Since they don't do any form of drug testing and we have nothing but heresay, we really don't know.
The best we can do is look at the most acurate information and make an OBJEVTIVE judgement.
Kai Green won the WNBF pro contest which is strictly drug tested at around 211 lbs.
Since he was a grown man with some hard training years behind him, it is unlikely he would gain a lot more muscle size via natural means.
Now, he competes a good 50 lbs more and just as cut .
While we don't know exactly what he takes , it is REASONABLE to conclude he has some form of steroid/PED use.
211 drug tested vs 268 UNtested. At least we have some wts, timeline and limited data.

WITHOUT a tested natural contest wt vs an UNtested contest wt of the same man in his prime, it is impossible to make any judgement about what the drugs did.

[Van_Bilderass]

Good question. Since they don't do any form of drug testing and we have nothing but heresay, we really don't know.
The best we can do is look at the most acurate information and make an OBJEVTIVE judgement.
Kai Green won the WNBF pro contest which is strictly drug tested at around 211 lbs.
Since he was a grown man with some hard training years behind him, it is unlikely he would gain a lot more muscle size via natural means.
Now, he competes a good 50 lbs more and just as cut .
While we don't know exactly what he takes , it is REASONABLE to conclude he has some form of steroid/PED use.
211 drug tested vs 268 UNtested. At least we have some wts, timeline and limited data.

WITHOUT a tested natural contest wt vs an UNtested contest wt of the same man in his prime, it is impossible to make any judgement about what the drugs did.

Kai never competed natural.

If you've seen what drugs do you don't need no stinking drug test or hard proof to tell with high accuracy. How do I KNOW both Matt C and little Swede! have done steroids when neither have admitted use? Because they are so big? It's not just related to stats, bodyweight, gains made, etc. You can put a person who never trained in his life on steroids and there will be signs! There is a distinct look steroids give which no amount of genetics or time or dedication give.

[che]

1. Ronnie was clean enough to pass a real urine test twice when he won his class at the IFBB amatuer world's to go pro. He didn't win the NPC Nationals but was the only hvy wt that placed who was willing to take and then pass the drug test.

2. He came into the pros with a drug tested wt of 217 and was a full grown man with many years of lifting already under his belt.
He ended up in the UNtested pros with a top, ripped wt of 286 lbs, a muscle gain of 70 lbs!!!

Looking at the facts of how much he gained in pure muscle size AFTER he stopped being drug tested is pretty decent evidance in my opinion.

Good question. Since they don't do any form of drug testing and we have nothing but heresay, we really don't know.
The best we can do is look at the most acurate information and make an OBJEVTIVE judgement.
Kai Green won the WNBF pro contest which is strictly drug tested at around 211 lbs.
Since he was a grown man with some hard training years behind him, it is unlikely he would gain a lot more muscle size via natural means.
Now, he competes a good 50 lbs more and just as cut .
While we don't know exactly what he takes , it is REASONABLE to conclude he has some form of steroid/PED use.
211 drug tested vs 268 UNtested. At least we have some wts, timeline and limited data.

WITHOUT a tested natural contest wt vs an UNtested contest wt of the same man in his prime, it is impossible to make any judgement about what the drugs did.

 

[The True Adonis]

Layne is Natural.

End of Story.