"bodybuilding nutrition"

[DK II]

Just man up and admit you were wrong, WL, there's nothing to it. 

[wavelength]

No, yours isn't.

a caloric deficit on transfats, sugar, mononatrium glutamate and protein shakes is a shitty diet that will NOT get you into a bodybuilder.

You probably had lots of muscle when you were fat before, and lost a lot when dieting down. A bodybuilding diet will make you build muscles and moderate fat when bulking (also achieved with cardio) and make you keep muscle in a caloric deficit (cardio here is a way to keep calories rather high when dieting, if you do not understand the benefits from this, i feel sorry for you).

Any caloric deficit will make you lose weight, and any caloric plus combined with training will make you gain weight, the question here is if you want the Ferrari or the Fiat. Yours is the Fiat, you will lose a lot of muscle when dieting and gain tons of fat when you bulk on chinese food, pizza and protein shakes.

A healthy bodybuilding diet is the Ferrari.

I'm always talking about optimal body composition of course. The comparison with cars is often used and cute but scientifically completely irrelevant.

[wavelength]

Just man up and admit you were wrong, WL, there's nothing to it.  

LOL, I knew you were just busting my balls.
Nobody can be that stubborn, even on a completely unnecessary low carb diet.

[_bruce_]

Fatpanda is an expert - chunky and with top honors.

[DK II]

LOL, I knew you were just busting my balls.
Nobody can be that stubborn, even on a completely unnecessary low carb diet.

Oh i am serious about that, and IF someone here is stubborn, it's you. 

I'm always talking about optimal body composition of course. The comparison with cars is often used and cute but scientifically completely irrelevant.

For optimal body composition, you lack a lot of muscle. 

[wavelength]

Oh i am serious about that, and IF someone here is stubborn, it's you.  
For optimal body composition, you lack a lot of muscle.  

There are lots of reasons why someone's body composition is the way it is.
I'm in the game for over 12 years, lifetime natural, not exactly the spring chicken and I am very prone to injuries.
I was a lot bigger and stronger in my younger years.
I've never claimed to be a posterboy for what I say, but that should be irrelevant anyway.

Anyway, as I said, people will make their own decisions. I'm just bored, no insult intended.

[DK II]

There are lots of reasons why someone's body composition is the way it is.
I'm in the game for over 12 years, lifetime natural, not exactly the spring chicken and I am very prone to injuries.
I was a lot bigger and stronger in my younger years.
I've never claimed to be a posterboy for what I say, but that should be irrelevant anyway.

Anyway, as I said, people will make their own decisions. I'm just bored, no insult intended.

Well, 12 years got you 60kg of muscle, congratulations.
 

[wavelength]

Well, 12 years got you 60kg of muscle, congratulations.
 

thanks!

[DK II]

thanks!

[Fatpanda]

For me it's rather funny that YOU are serious with this shit.

If it would work, don't you think at least ONE bodybuilder would eat this way??? One? At least? I don't see anyone getting into contest shape on alcohol, chinese food and pizza. I wonder why?

I edited the above post for a reference to clean = healthy in my book.


I also don't mind you dieting this way, what gets on my fucking nerves is your arrogance in telling everyone else he is stupid when following a "bodybuilding diet". Your starvation shit will get you nowhere in bodybuilding terms, you can go from very fat into ripped with little muscle with your diet, if you are fine with it, fine, but don't ridicule people that have bigger goals.

(I'm on a low carb diet right now, hence the bad temper, it's nothing personal, WL, you're just getting on my neves with the same bullshit all the time.)

hahahahahahaha those low carb diets are healthy aren't they  

yet you are angrier than normal because of the low carbs hahahahahahahahahahahaha

you sir are a fool.

[che]

hahahahahahaha those low carb diets are healthy aren't they 

you are angrier than normal because of the low carbs hahahahahahahahahahahaha

you sir are a fool.

HAHA,Fatpanda talking about health .

[Palpatine Q]

HAHA,Fatpanda talking about health .

It's comical isn't it ?

some fucking obese blob carries on like he has the "key' to getting ripped

[Fatpanda]

It's comical isn't it ?

some fucking obese blob carries on like he has the "key' to getting ripped

not half as comical as some obese blob carrying on like he is not juiced to the gills on illegal steroids. 

[Shockwave]

not half as comical as some obese blob carrying on like he is not juiced to the gills on illegal steroids. 

Projecting much eh?
Calling GROING the fat blob?
What the fuck world do you live in? Epic delusional fail.

[Fatpanda]

Projecting much eh?
Calling GROING the fat blob?
What the fuck world do you live in? Epic delusional fail.

still waiting on those pics big man............... 

i bet you are fatter than i ever have been.

[newmom]

not half as comical as some obese blob carrying on like he is not juiced to the gills on illegal steroids. 

Groink obese , I think the kit kats are effecting your judgement Panda

[no one]

still waiting on those pics big man...............  

i bet you are fatter than i ever have been.

not likely.

he'd be in a wheel chair or scooter at that point.

you do realise nobody gives a fuck what you think about 'diet' and 'training', right?

you keep posting like you can add value to the discussion at hand. all you are doing is making a further mockery of your slovenly self.

keep up the good work, sausage tits.

[Fatpanda]

not likely.

he'd be in a wheel chair or scooter at that point.

you do realise nobody gives a fuck what you think about 'diet' and 'training', right?

you keep posting like you can add value to the discussion at hand. all you are doing is making a further mockery of your slovenly self.

keep up the good work, sausage tits.

hahahaha as predicted up pops no one another fat waste of life with no brain.

the day you post a pic showing your physique is the day i die.

[no one]

hahahaha as predicted up pops no one another fat waste of life with no brain.

the day you post a pic showing your physique is the day i die.

how about the day i post a pic you agree to let Ron ban your ip address, and you agree to never post here again?

[Cy Tolliver]

No, yours isn't.

a caloric deficit on transfats, sugar, mononatrium glutamate and protein shakes is a shitty diet that will NOT get you into a bodybuilder.

You probably had lots of muscle when you were fat before, and lost a lot when dieting down. A bodybuilding diet will make you build muscles and moderate fat when bulking (also achieved with cardio) and make you keep muscle in a caloric deficit (cardio here is a way to keep calories rather high when dieting, if you do not understand the benefits from this, i feel sorry for you).

Any caloric deficit will make you lose weight, and any caloric plus combined with training will make you gain weight, the question here is if you want the Ferrari or the Fiat. Yours is the Fiat, you will lose a lot of muscle when dieting and gain tons of fat when you bulk on chinese food, pizza and protein shakes.

A healthy bodybuilding diet is the Ferrari.

WTF are you talking about you ignorant ass hole

sweet potatoes and chicken can be the same as mc chicken and fries

JUST CONTROL CALORIES AND PROTEIN

EXACT SAME

[DK II]

WTF are you talking about you ignorant ass hole

sweet potatoes and chicken can be the same as mc chicken and fries

JUST CONTROL CALORIES AND PROTEIN

EXACT SAME

No, Mc Chicken and fries have high amounts of transfats and will give you clogged up arteries in no time.
Plus calories on fries and Mc Chicken are much higher, so this means that in return you get much less protein or carbs but a lot of unhealhty fatty acids with your meal.


Now STFU because you obviously know shit about nutrition.


@ Fatpanda: 
You talking about nutrition is like a blind man describing a rainbow.

[Fatpanda]

No, Mc Chicken and fries have high amounts of transfats and will give you clogged up arteries in no time.
Plus calories on fries and Mc Chicken are much higher, so this means that in return you get much less protein or carbs but a lot of unhealhty fatty acids with your meal.


Now STFU because you obviously know shit about nutrition.


@ Fatpanda: 
You talking about nutrition is like a blind man describing a rainbow.

what the fuck do you know about nutrition ? you may insult others that do know about it, but you do not post any science nor proof that backs up why you are attacking.

you have never even been in shape.

it takes less than 5 mins to take a pic and post it here, yet in all the years of talking shit you have never posted a single pic bar one of your fat calf 

that says it all for me.

[DK II]

what the fuck do you know about nutrition ? you may insult others that do know about it, but you do not post any science nor proof that backs up why you are attacking.

you have never even been in shape.

it takes less than 5 mins to take a pic and post it here, yet in all the years of talking shit you have never posted a single pic bar one of your fat calf 

that says it all for me.

LOL, you know shit about me.

Now go on and have your McDonald's diet meal, you disgusting fat fuck.

[Fatpanda]

LOL, you know shit about me.

Now go on and have your McDonald's diet meal, you disgusting fat fuck.

hahaha yes of course i dont donkey calfs   

no need to melt.

[JOHN MATRIX]

lift weights

your genetics will determine the rest

you will have a good idea of your genetics and potential within 6 weeks of working out