GOP Prepares Release of New 'Contract' to Rollback Obama Agenda

[Straw Man]

the problem is straw the continually changing business world...the reason businesses arent hiring is the same reason ppl arent investing and banks arent lending b/c they dont know whats going to happen...

now there is always a certaint amount of uncertainty in life but the policies this administration has passed and the agenda it chooses to pursue or contemplate are actively creating more uncertainty and more instability...

jobs will start to come back when stability returns b/c with stability comes confidence...

you want to blame someone for lack of job growth, you should start with obama and the dems...

repealing the health care bill would indeed rid businesses of a certaint amount of uncertainty...

I agree with most of what you have written

I'm sure we can agree that the healthcare legislation didn't cause the unemployment problem so

tell me what Obama should have done to stimulate job growth

[Soul Crusher]

haven't I alreayd told you multiple times that I blame Clinton for deregulation of the financial markets

shit - I think I told you that just a couple of days ago

so since we alreayd agree on Clinton why don't we go back and look at Reagans contribution to the current mess:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/opinion/01krugman.html

Krugman has as much credibility on economic issues as Obama does on international peace. 

[Straw Man]

What are you babbling about? Obama hasn't fixed anything. All the problems we had under Bush and a Democratic dominated congress are worse now. Therefore, the nation has to back track to the beginning of Obama's presidency and correct all his wrongs. THEN, all the issues that Obama keeps avoiding because he doesn't know what to do.

did I say in my short post that he had fixed anything?

I said what will they do to fix the problems that they claim he isn't working on

[Straw Man]

Krugman has as much credibility on economic issues as Obama does on international peace. 

so you saw his name and didn't bother to read it

that's fine

what points in the article do you disagree with?

[Soul Crusher]

so you saw his name and didn't bother to read it

that's fine

what points in the article do you disagree with?

I saw his name and insantly was reminded of some of my deluded obamabot friends who read nothing beyond what Krugman posts, regardless of how contradictory, disheveled, and nonsensical his articles are. 

[dario73]

did I say in my short post that he had fixed anything?

I said what will they do to fix the problems that they claim he isn't working on

You used the word "claim". It is not a claim. It is a fact that he has not addressed the most pressing needs since his presidency began.

[Straw Man]

You used the word "claim". It is not a claim. It is a fact that he has not addressed the most pressing needs since his presidency began.

I used the word claim because that it what it is

if you have an actual fact then state it

[240 is Back]

ZERO mention of earmarks in the republican plan.  They think they'll be running the senate/house next year and they sure want to enjoy the dem pork

[Kazan]

ZERO mention of earmarks in the republican plan.  They think they'll be running the senate/house next year and they sure want to enjoy the dem pork

OK where is the Dem plan, oh thats right there isn't one

[tu_holmes]

You used the word "claim". It is not a claim. It is a fact that he has not addressed the most pressing needs since his presidency began.

That's not true... The fact is that he has "addressed" those pressing needs. He just hasn't done it in the manner that you agree with.

That's a fact.

[tonymctones]

I agree with most of what you have written

I'm sure we can agree that the healthcare legislation didn't cause the unemployment problem so

tell me what Obama should have done to stimulate job growth

he should have stabilized the economy and tried to keep all things constant until the economy was back up and going. Now i understand politically why obama didnt wait b/c he saw the chance to get a number of his agenda points addressed and jumped at the chance but he did so at the cost of jobs and the economy...

did you know that every year of mid term elections since 1930 the markets have rallied...they just lowered their S&P projection for the end of the year...does that tell you anything?

he needed to give as much stability to businesses as possible as well as giving incentives to them tax credits(which he has to an extent) for asset purchases, cutting payroll taxes, leaving taxes for businesses alone for the time being...

instead he has passed a health care bill that by the vast majority of estimates will increase cost for businesses and individuals in general...

he has constanty contemplated cap and trade which injects even more uncertainty into the business market

he is playing with letting the bush tax cuts expire which again injects more instability into the business market..

the list goes on and on straw...you know many many ppl say that obama is anti business and I dont know if he is anti business or just not thinking about the consequences of his actinos but the fact is the moves he is making right now are not helping employment and the economy they are actively hurting them...

[Arnold jr]

the Labor Department didn't start keeping payroll records until 1939

That's fine but we still know what the tax rates were, what the percentages were, etc. Fact, under Harding and then Coolidge, Americans paid over 50% less in taxes than they did under Wilson and we know it was one of the lowest taxed periods in American history. We know that the 20's was the most rapid expansion of the U.S. economy and industry in the countries existence and we know Hoover and congress shot it down and FDR prolonged it.

[GigantorX]

he just ran up the debt and deficit, raised taxes and borrower ed from social security

oh yeah and illegally sold weapons to Iran

That's all he did? Really? You obviously know little about his terms as President or you're just (I hope) being a snarky jack-ass. Either way you aren't making yourself look very good and you're hurting your credibility.

If you are going to make an intellectually ignorant statement such as that, you may want to stop calling other peoples statements stupid as well.