any of you in favor of the paleo diet?

[MB_722]

thinking about doing it. I'm still learning and am not sure.

I'm tired of the crap I've been eating.

what do you think?

[Migs]

i'm thinking about it too.

[marcie999]

Very restrictive, cant go anywhere. Depends on how clean you want to go.

Also very interesting because you learn way more than you wanted to know about food farming and production methods. Long term life changing stuff. You can look into the eating genetics of your race and how long ago your ancestors left the land, (and therefore stopped eating good quality food) if you will. You can also get into the type of foods they would have been producing, specific species etc and look at how viable food choices that detailed are.

Without fail when you do this kind of digging you can see when certain family diseases showed up etc. Like I said, if you really go into it it is life changing stuff.

Reckon it would be best to do it in summer when produce is at its best and most abundant to make things easier and cheaper. Therefore eat normal all year, do a spring clean some time in spring (detox) and then eat paleo all summer.

You looking at planting anything yourself to grow and eat?

Any supplementation allowed?


Let us know how it goes.

 

[The Showstoppa]

Yeah, cavemen were 5'2", 100 lbs and scavenged all day hoping to get enough calories to make it back to the cave that night before some t-rex assbanged them....sounds like a great choice...

[MB_722]

I don't know yet marcie. winter is starting up soon.

I found this podcast.
http://robbwolf.com/category/podcasts/page/5/

[MB_722]

Yeah, cavemen were 5'2", 100 lbs and scavenged all day hoping to get enough calories to make it back to the cave that night before some t-rex assbanged them....sounds like a great choice...

usually you have some good posts but this was kinda dumb. I'm jsut looking for some clean food.

[MB_722]

I'm not a fan of HFCS and processed crap and commercial farming.

I want grass fed meat, that kinda stuff.

not a tree hugger at all.

[The True Adonis]

usually you have some good posts but this was kinda dumb. I'm jsut looking for some clean food.

No such thing as "clean food".

[DK II]

paleo diet is stupid.

[MB_722]

I wish there was a poll option

[The True Adonis]

I'm not a fan of HFCS and processed crap and commercial farming.

I want grass fed meat, that kinda stuff.

not a tree hugger at all.

I guess you are against anything salted or frozen or with vitamins as well.  By all means, if you want to be a shitbrain and engage in sadomachoism, do it.

By the way, commercial farming is a very good thing and better than organic in most instances as far as the environment and health of the crop as well as the crop yield is concerned.

[The Showstoppa]

usually you have some good posts but this was kinda dumb. I'm jsut looking for some clean food.

Sorry man....I'm tired....the only advice I have on that diet is that we had one guy in our company try it, and it seemed like a pain in the ass and he didn't make any improvements.  I'd suggest maybe trying a few of the things, but adapt it to you.

[The True Adonis]

Sorry man....I'm tired....the only advice I have on that diet is that we had one guy in our company try it, and it seemed like a pain in the ass and he didn't make any improvements.  I'd suggest maybe trying a few of the things, but adapt it to you.

Don`t egg him on. lololol

[MB_722]

I don't know TA. ... I know you love commercial farming.

I seen this a couple of weeks ago Im sure you can find it out there.

[The Showstoppa]

Don`t egg him on. lololol

I like my chickens with enough hormones pumped into them so that I catch a residual buzz from them....

[MB_722]

Sorry man....I'm tired....the only advice I have on that diet is that we had one guy in our company try it, and it seemed like a pain in the ass and he didn't make any improvements.  I'd suggest maybe trying a few of the things, but adapt it to you.

I doubt I'll go strict anyway. if there are some things I can change about my diet then I'm all for it.

[marcie999]

Good luck with it.


Some folks reckon their emotions changed with this diet. Like some violent purging and then they calmed down. Bear in mind this is anecdotal, just stuff people I know said about the experience.

It will make eating out socially very difficult. Most places have pre prepared stuff or have marinated things to death. BBQ's are the least difficult socially to organise with no use of condiments or dressings on the salads. You can provide it for guests so they dont think you're too weird, but you can eat clean while blending in. Hence summer being the best/easiest time for it, again.

I wrote this massive essay on the paleo diet focussing on how jawlines got ruined in 2nd and 3rd generation off the land children resulting in teeth crowding and massive remedial dental work being needed. Didnt matter if their parents were from mountain regions, riverine, lake or sea island where they were relying on the ocean heavily for their food. Longitude or altitude didnt seem to matter either. A shift to processed eating and the stress of city living, hit their health hard and the kids were affected. They reckon it takes many generations for your gizzards to adapt to not being on the land, and that it is the optimal health model for eating. They even went into speculating about mental diseases having their origin in this eating, massive changing of things on the subsistence level. Not even touching the alcohol issue.

Was interesting stuff.

 

[MB_722]

anyway I'm off to the gym. see what you guys have to say when I get back

[The True Adonis]

I don't know TA. ... I know you love commercial farming.

I seen this a couple of weeks ago Im sure you can find it out there.

I`m sorry I wasted the time reading all of Michael Pollan`s books.  There is ALOT that he gets wrong.  Anyone who advocates paying MORE for food for no Scientific reason or from an Factual/Evidence based reason is a moron.  He is out of touch with reality and with Empirical evidence.

[The True Adonis]

Good luck with it.


Some folks reckon their emotions changed with this diet. Like some violent purging and then they calmed down. Bear in mind this is anecdotal, just stuff people I know said about the experience.

It will make eating out socially very difficult. Most places have pre prepared stuff or have marinated things to death. BBQ's are the least difficult socially to organise with no use of condiments or dressings on the salads. You can provide it for guests so they dont think you're too weird, but you can eat clean while blending in. Hence summer being the best/easiest time for it, again.

I wrote this massive essay on the paleo diet focussing on how jawlines got ruined in 2nd and 3rd generation off the land children resulting in teeth crowding and massive remedial dental work being needed. Didnt matter if their parents were from mountain regions, riverine, lake or sea island where they were relying on the ocean heavily for their food. Longitude or altitude didnt seem to matter either. A shift to processed eating and the stress of city living, hit their health hard and the kids were affected. They reckon it takes many generations for your gizzards to adapt to not being on the land, and that it is the optimal health model for eating. They even went into speculating about mental diseases having their origin in this eating, massive changing of things on the subsistence level. Not even touching the alcohol issue.

Was interesting stuff.

 

Hi Weston Price. Not the"processed food" myth again.  Its total bullshit you know.

[The True Adonis]

Good luck with it.


Some folks reckon their emotions changed with this diet. Like some violent purging and then they calmed down. Bear in mind this is anecdotal, just stuff people I know said about the experience.

It will make eating out socially very difficult. Most places have pre prepared stuff or have marinated things to death. BBQ's are the least difficult socially to organise with no use of condiments or dressings on the salads. You can provide it for guests so they dont think you're too weird, but you can eat clean while blending in. Hence summer being the best/easiest time for it, again.

I wrote this massive essay on the paleo diet focussing on how jawlines got ruined in 2nd and 3rd generation off the land children resulting in teeth crowding and massive remedial dental work being needed. Didnt matter if their parents were from mountain regions, riverine, lake or sea island where they were relying on the ocean heavily for their food. Longitude or altitude didnt seem to matter either. A shift to processed eating and the stress of city living, hit their health hard and the kids were affected. They reckon it takes many generations for your gizzards to adapt to not being on the land, and that it is the optimal health model for eating. They even went into speculating about mental diseases having their origin in this eating, massive changing of things on the subsistence level. Not even touching the alcohol issue.

Was interesting stuff.

 

Also your diet assertion of generational ruination is totally false and bullshit.  The Genotype determines the Phenotype. The Phenotype NEVER determines the Genotype.  You should have gotten an F on your paper as it is an impossibility to support your claim.  Furthmore the genome would not change so quickly in a closed population. (not that the diet would affect it in any way since as I stated above about Genotype/Phenotype).

Also, what the fuck is a "land children" ?  Makes no sense.

[The True Adonis]

Also your diet assertion of generational ruination is totally false and bullshit.  The Genotype determines the Phenotype. The Phenotype NEVER determines the Genotype.  You should have gotten an F on your paper as it is an impossibility to support your claim.  Furthmore the genome would not change so quickly in a closed population. (not that the diet would affect it in any way since as I stated above about Genotype/Phenotype).

Also, what the fuck is a "land children" ?  Makes no sense.

Let me give a brief example of the Genotype/Phenotype thing in case you don`t understand.
Lets say one day you take up running as a hobby.  You do it for 20 years straight and have children after 20 years. All of that running you did will have no bearing whatsoever on your children or their ability to run.

The same thing applies to diet.  The 2nd and 3rd generation would not be affected whatsoever.

[DK II]

Let me give a brief example of the Genotype/Phenotype thing in case you don`t understand.
Lets say one day you take up running as a hobby.  You do it for 20 years straight and have children after 20 years. All of that running you did will have no bearing whatsoever on your children or their ability to run.

The same thing applies to diet.  The 2nd and 3rd generation would not be affected whatsoever.

Actually the latest approach in gene science is that you can turn genes "on" and "off" according to your nutrition and behavior.

For example, doing sports will turn on certain genes in your body and turn other genes off.

The Paleo Diet is total bullshit.

[The True Adonis]

Actually the latest approach in gene science is that you can turn genes "on" and "off" according to your nutrition and behavior.

For example, doing sports will turn on certain genes in your body and turn other genes off.

The Paleo Diet is total bullshit.

That has no bearing on inheritance or offspring whatsoever (again, the Phenotype can NEVER determine the Genotype) as the genes are still present, even when dormant.

[DK II]

That has no bearing on inheritance or offspring whatsoever (again, the Phenotype can NEVER determine the Genotype) as the genes are still present, even when dormant.

That's what i meant.

I am actually on your side, Adam...