dipshit,
jay is not being judged against coleman, or yates, or anyone other past olympia winner with a great back.
he is being judged against todays guys. do you comprehend that?
he is the best as of now, has the biggest back, and best overall condition,
this is what i meant about you not understanding bbing,
you just dont get that, and thats fine, everyone has the things they either get or dont get, i dont get cars, or how to fix them, so i dont pretend i do,
so you do the same
ok
DUH, funny how you didn't say detail and know he doesn't have the best overall conditioning, he STILL has wrinkles in his back, and is missing chunks of muscle in his lower back...take a look at at the pics, and against today's guys in the BDB he fails horribly to compare---to Phil, Dex, even Vic and Kai, you have avoided the argument of lack of detail. A back is not complete without detail. One can have crazy width like Nasser or Jay, but wen it comes down to it, the most impressive part in the chiseled in detail...as Shawn Ray put it, in one of his articles from Flex 1995 or 1996, Snakes of Detail... And I was using Dorian, Ronnie, Haney, etc to illustrate that all Mr. Os have had great backs, with great heavily detailed back...all except Jay, the marketing boy wonder.
Even you can see that, I shouldn't have to explain myself twice, so sit back, let it marinate for a bit, take a look at pics that are presented, Hell, blow the pics up side by side, take a manifying glass out, do what you have to do. But, I standy by my point.