phil is phenominal response to drugs,,he has detailed back not because he work hard but because his muscle respond right and skin respond right and eveyrthing fall into place,,off the drugs he is worse than kevin when he is off drugs,,
jay on the other hand was not gifted in the original genetic department and worked everything he could inaddition to very good response to hormones ,,the combination of both created what you see now days,,he is at the end of his road though,,
gh15 approved