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[Luolamies]

Just so you guys understand, a higher red blood cell count keeps volume in your muscle and looking pumped 24 hours a day..

that given I've never used more then 600mg of eq, ever..

True, also it helps to deliver more oxygen to your muscles, but when it's too high for too long it will became a serious risk. Smart lifters have regular blood work done to avoid problems that are easily avoidable without going off the sauce.

[Fatpanda]

ahahahahahaha

you stupid fat fuck.

keep talking about something, once again, you know nothing about.

i know several who have to give blood to offset high ferritin you fucking fat, stupid tool- i am one of them.

omg. you just keep time and again opening your kit-kat eating yob and ramming your foot right in there eh?

congratulations on being consistent- i couldnt imagine how difficult it would be to be that stupid, all the time.

hahahahaha bullshit

name these bodybuilders you know 

and again   explain what element of bodybuilding causes high iron counts ?

high ferratin can be caused by lots of diseases or conditions i.e. liver disease, thyroid disease, alcoholism, diabetes, and chronic inflammation, not only hemochromatosis 

so you are claiming either you have hemochromatosis via hereditary means or you caught it because you suffer from anemia ?

or simply have high ferratin levels.

which is it ?

try to answer my questions now and prove you have a brain.

do not run away like a coward again, like you did on the insulin IM thread 

[Fatpanda]

But aren't we talking about red blood cells, hemocrit levels, and not iron levels. I think there's probably a correlation but not a causation. At one point, after a blood test, it showed that my iron levels were on the low side although I had a high hemocrit level. It was over 50. Like around 53 or so.

the guy is a lying clown.

he tries to look smart by talking shit about things he has no clue about - which i love as i make sure i highlight his ignorance and lies with every further post.

he also knows I'm about to own him into oblivion here too, but he'll probably not answer my questions as he knows what's coming.

he'll resort to his usual 'fat asshole' etc etc post a few pics then run away like he always does.

[dustin]

When it involves anything but bodybuilding I'm all for the studies. But bodybuilders are the pioneers or drug abuse. No use trying to compare shit on paper with the real world until there are decades worth of studies anyway, they're all wrong or use poor, useless controls and BS that don't make sense in real life anyway.

Fatfuckerpanda's meltdowns are pitiful and useless. His efforts should be exhausted on getting in shape rather than winning arguments with internet entities that respect a polished turd more than him. I'm sure that's one thing we'd all agree on.

[Master Blaster]

the guy is a lying clown.

he tries to look smart by talking shit about things he has no clue about - which i love as i make sure i highlight his ignorance and lies with every further post.

he also knows I'm about to own him into oblivion here too, but he'll probably not answer my questions as he knows what's coming.

he'll resort to his usual 'fat asshole' etc etc post a few pics then run away like he always does.

[no one]

the guy is a lying clown.

he tries to look smart by talking shit about things he has no clue about - which i love as i make sure i highlight his ignorance and lies with every further post.

he also knows I'm about to own him into oblivion here too, but he'll probably not answer my questions as he knows what's coming.

he'll resort to his usual 'fat asshole' etc etc post a few pics then run away like he always does.

shut up you fat asshole.

ahahahahahahahahahahahah a

[no one]

the guy is a lying clown.

he tries to look smart by talking shit about things he has no clue about - which i love as i make sure i highlight his ignorance and lies with every further post.

he also knows I'm about to own him into oblivion here too, but he'll probably not answer my questions as he knows what's coming.

he'll resort to his usual 'fat asshole' etc etc post a few pics then run away like he always does.

btw the only thing you 'own' is an insatiable appetite.

you are a fucking tool and a loser who really doesnt know when to just give up, just like in the aforementioned thread where you make a mockery of yourself as per usual.

for those interested- here's the link. hypoglycemia causing shortness of breath- oh brother- ahahahahahaha.

lets not forget your 'intra muscular insulin injections' causing localised growth. omg ahahahahahahahaa

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=349752.0

[tbombz]

equipoise isnt going to cause dangerously high levels of red blood cells in anyone, regardless of doseage.

[makaveli25]

Okay then run a gram of it everyweek for 30 weeks and get blood work. It take 12-16 weeks to really start to start seeing results. I bet your rbc count would be off the charts. My blood pressure shot up to 140-150/90. That's not scary high but it was at rest. Off cycle my blood pressure is perfect.

[tbombz]

all steroids increase red blood cell production. equipoise is not special in that regard. it does seem to increase it a little bit more so than other steroids do, but nothing dramatically different. the human body is very efficient at maintaining healthy levels of the consitiuints of the body, and there are several feedback loops that prevent red blood cell count from reaching dangerous levels. the only way to bypass these feedback lops and cause dangerous RBC levels is by direct administartion of EPO or blood doping

[makaveli25]

Equipose was never met for people to take. It's for animals. So you are telling me I wasn't at risk with a blood pressure that high. The increase was caused by the thickening of my blood.  I have run many compounds and nothing had the effect that equipose did.

[WillGrant]

Pretty sure EQ was developed for Race horses , one of the functions was to increase RBC to enhance recovery from injuries etc to get them up and "running" in the shortest time possible. what is the dose for a 1000 pound thoroghbred versus a 200 - 250 pound bodybuilder 

[Wiggs]

I hear this all the time and it needs to be addressed.....Deca or Nandralone and Equipoise are not the same thing...They should not be subbed for one another they are different compounds period...You could have cycle that had Test, deca and equipoise and taking the last two compounds wouldn't be redundant.

[makaveli25]

I wish I didn't feel like shit on it because It was one of the best lean muscle builders I have used. When gh15 saygs your muscles grow from the inside he's not kidding. Other compounds get me bloated and thicker but I haven't been able to find anything to mimic the effects of equipose. Tren worked well but that makes you feel bi polar and shitty if you get the sides.

[BIG DUB]

Pretty sure EQ was developed for Race horses , one of the functions was to increase RBC to enhance recovery from injuries etc to get them up and "running" in the shortest time possible. what is the dose for a 1000 pound thoroghbred versus a 200 - 250 pound bodybuilder 

http://www.troylab.com.au/products.php?tid=1&iid=27&pid=144   

[g101]

tren = cows
equipoise = horses
winstrol = dogs and cats

haha

[makaveli25]

I would imagine high doses of legit primo like a gram a week would be outstanding with similar effects to equipose without the anxiety and other sides. Who has the money for that though.

[WillGrant]

http://www.troylab.com.au/products.php?tid=1&iid=27&pid=144   

lmao so 200mg every 4-8 weeks in horses and bb are taking 400 - 1000mg a week lol up the dose brah 

[Captain Equipoise]

all steroids increase red blood cell production. equipoise is not special in that regard. it does seem to increase it a little bit more so than other steroids do, but nothing dramatically different. the human body is very efficient at maintaining healthy levels of the consitiuints of the body, and there are several feedback loops that prevent red blood cell count from reaching dangerous levels. the only way to bypass these feedback lops and cause dangerous RBC levels is by direct administartion of EPO or blood doping

You are wrong, that's exactly what is so special about EQ, why it was designed for Equidae (horses) it dramatically increases the red blood cell count more then any other steroid, the only other steroid that is close is anadrol-50 which was and is still used on people who have anemia which is a decrease of red blood cells.

Go back to the library kid.

[Fatpanda]

btw the only thing you 'own' is an insatiable appetite.

you are a fucking tool and a loser who really doesnt know when to just give up, just like in the aforementioned thread where you make a mockery of yourself as per usual.

for those interested- here's the link. hypoglycemia causing shortness of breath- oh brother- ahahahahahaha.

lets not forget your 'intra muscular insulin injections' causing localised growth. omg ahahahahahahahaa

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=349752.0

yes you were owned in both those threads and you have owned yourself here.  i love it.

you made the claim many bodybuilders suffer from high iron counts yet you cannot name any   

i have asked you which element of bodybuilding caused hemochromatosis , you cannot tell me 

i have asked you to clarify how you got high ferratin levels ( if you are even telling the truth ) , you will not tell me 

guess what big man - you have been owned again 

[tbombz]

I hear this all the time and it needs to be addressed.....Deca or Nandralone and Equipoise are not the same thing...They should not be subbed for one another they are different compounds period...You could have cycle that had Test, deca and equipoise and taking the last two compounds wouldn't be redundant.

your absolutely right about eq being different than deca.  but taking any two steroids is redundant. steroids all work the same. no point in "stacking"........ 1+1 does not equal anything but 2.

You are wrong, that's exactly what is so special about EQ, why it was designed for Equidae (horses) it dramatically increases the red blood cell count more then any other steroid, the only other steroid that is close is anadrol-50 which was and is still used on people who have anemia which is a decrease of red blood cells.

Go back to the library kid.

youve just repeated the basic info from every "steroid profile" on the net..  the fact is that every steroid increases rbc, and eq only mildy better at it than others.. and there is a feedback loop preventing dangerous levels

[Captain Equipoise]

your absolutely right about eq being different than deca.  but taking any two steroids is redundant. steroids all work the same. no point in "stacking"........ 1+1 does not equal anything but 2.

 youve just repeated the basic info from every "steroid profile" on the net..  the fact is that every steroid increases rbc, and eq only mildy better at it than others.. and there is a feedback loop preventing dangerous levels

Sigh, in regards to EQ it's something I've witnessed on my own body and friends, learned more through experience then research but whatever, I never stated EQ raises RBC to dangerous levels btw. Epo will but not EQ

[Fatpanda]

now now taylor, acording to no one bodybuilders can catch hemochromatosis from too much eq.

he knows this for a fact because he 'knows' people including himself that has caught it 

[pellius]

your absolutely right about eq being different than deca.  but taking any two steroids is redundant. steroids all work the same. no point in "stacking"........ 1+1 does not equal anything but 2.
 

You've got to be kidding!!!!? So dianabol and tren work the same and will have the same effect on you body?

I've always considered you somewhat knowledgeable about steroids but this is an asinine statement. There's not a successful bodybuilder alive that just uses one steroid while prepping for a show.

[no one]

now now taylor, acording to no one bodybuilders can catch hemochromatosis from too much eq.

he knows this for a fact because he 'knows' people including himself that has caught it 

ahahahaha heres comes chunky!

listen pickle tits, lemme break it down for you simple like cause your not getting the jist of things it seems- you dont have a clue what you are talking about, about anything you pretty much try to give advise on which you have so aptly proven time and again- case in point- phil heath's growth due to 'intra muscular insulin injections', and 'hypoglycemia causing shortness of breath'. lolz

im even going to ignore your first sentence only because it so wonderfully demonstrates how much of an imbecile you are- it's much better than any degrading comment i could ever make regarding your 'knowledge'.

one thing is certain, you do have a knack for consistently making a mockery of yourself.

nice work, stupid.