pm question answered

[Captain Equipoise]

your right about different steroids have different feels and looks. water retention, effect on libido/agression, and effect on fat mass. certainly tren, winstrol, primo, masteron all seem to be a bit better at leaning you out than say dbol, test, deca, anadrol,...   and certainly test, tren, dbol, anadol for some people, anavar in high doses, anything in high doses can give great gains compared to weaker steroids like winstrool, eq, deca, ...    aromatizing steroids like test dbol anadrol (not technically aromitizable tho) deca will give water retention while non-aromatizable will give less water retention.. anavar, winstrol, tren, primo, masteron, halo...    but in the end they all are doing the same thing, they just have minor differences in how they go about it. test seems to give the best combination of all factors, except it does cause water retention but thats only because of a benefit which is high estrogen..    anyway, gotta run..

Have you considered that maybe the problem is the cheap chinese underground shit you're using !?!

maybe you should (if you can afford it) some real hg gear, then you will see the difference.

[DK II]

Have you considered that maybe the problem is the cheap chinese underground shit you're using !?!

maybe you should (if you can afford it) some real hg gear, then you will see the difference.

x2

[WillGrant]

Have you considered that maybe the problem is the cheap chinese underground shit you're using !?!

maybe you should (if you can afford it) some real hg gear, then you will see the difference.

Na thats wrong to , there is good UG gear out there , What Tbombz is saying is in fact correct about steroids doing the same thing but is very wrong in saying mg vs mg you get the same rsults , this cannot be correct as some steroids are better than others.

1000mg of test
       vs
700mg test and 300mg Tren

The second cycle will yeild better results in muscle and strength if all things are equal in regards to diet and training so in this case he is wrong and stacking does work.

I may have mistaken what you said Taylor and apoligise in advance if this is the case.

[tbombz]

Na thats wrong to , there is good UG gear out there , What Tbombz is saying is in fact correct about steroids doing the same thing but is very wrong in saying mg vs mg you get the same rsults , this cannot be correct as some steroids are better than others.

1000mg of test
       vs
700mg test and 300mg Tren

The second cycle will yeild better results in muscle and strength if all things are equal in regards to diet and training so in this case he is wrong and stacking does work.

I may have mistaken what you said Taylor and apoligise in advance if this is the case.

that cycle with tren will work slightly better, due to the fact that tren is better than test, speaking from experience. 1000mg of tren alone will work better than 1000mg of test alone.

t

[WillGrant]

that cycle with tren will work slightly better, due to the fact that tren is better than test, speaking from experience. 1000mg of tren alone will work better than 1000mg of test alone.

t

Indeed , though I would say 600mg of tren would work better than 1000mg test.though i always like having test in a cycle.

[Vince B]

The inmates have clearly taken over the asylum here. What a bunch on nonsense to talk drug protocols. I don't see any true experts here. Shame on all of you.

[WillGrant]

The inmates have clearly taken over the asylum here. What a bunch on nonsense to talk drug protocols. I don't see any true experts here. Shame on all of you.

 

[DK II]

The inmates have clearly taken over the asylum here. What a bunch on nonsense to talk drug protocols. I don't see any true experts here. Shame on all of you.

Did you lose you mind completely now?

[Genius]

1000mg test/ew
1000mg boldenone(EQ) /ew

..Is magic in its purest form.

1000mg test/ew
500-600mg tren enanthate /ew

..Will make you ill and transform "you" into a psychopath.
Tren is the only compound, which made me so ill I got severe asthma-attacks and was hospitalized.
Have tried EVERYTHING, but no more tren for me - ever!
If you are scared getting your Hb-levels too high, then lower the dosages (EQ + test).
By far EQ+test stack is the best I've tried.
Recommend it!

(Haven't read the whole thread - just talking from experience.)

[dustin]

Did you lose you mind completely now?

When was he ever "with it" to begin with?

All flotsam and jetsam.

[TacoBell]

that cycle with tren will work slightly better, due to the fact that tren is better than test, speaking from experience. 1000mg of tren alone will work better than 1000mg of test alone.

t

You have no business taking 1000mg of tren.

[g101]

i dunno seriously my first cycle was deca + tren (dont ask i was a rookie) and i really liked it to be honest and i didnt have any libido or mood side effects, in fact i was really happy

[Palpatine Q]

yes you were owned in both those threads and you have owned yourself here.   i love it.

you made the claim many bodybuilders suffer from high iron counts yet you cannot name any  

i have asked you which element of bodybuilding caused hemochromatosis , you cannot tell me  

i have asked you to clarify how you got high ferratin levels ( if you are even telling the truth ) , you will not tell me  

guess what big man - you have been owned again  

he doesn't have to prove shit to you, and you haven't "owned" anybody......you are the fat asshole who got outed spouting fucking fairy tales about his imaginary physique.

You really don't get it do you ??

Your cover is blown, game over..... no one takes you seriously

seriously.....look around. Nobody backs you, or engages in lengthy discussions with you.....we tolerate you because you won't shut up

[DK II]

When was he ever "with it" to begin with?

All flotsam and jetsam.

lol, you're right, but so far he didn't turn into the drug threads and comment on who's in the know and who not like if he knew shit about it.

But then again, he did the same with women before...

[Fatpanda]

he doesn't have to prove shit to you, and you haven't "owned" anybody......you are the fat asshole who got outed spouting fucking fairy tales about his imaginary physique.

You really don't get it do you ??

Your cover is blown, game over..... no one takes you seriously

seriously.....look around. Nobody backs you, or engages in lengthy discussions with you.....we tolerate you because you won't shut up

once again you show your ignorance, or inability to admit the truth when you see it.

to see you siding with a liar comes as no shock 

[Palpatine Q]

once again you show your ignorance, or inability to admit the truth when you see it.

to see you siding with a liar comes as no shock 

Speaking of lying....got any pics of you at 9% (LOL).....or 290 (LOLOL)   

[Van_Bilderass]

The inmates have clearly taken over the asylum here. What a bunch on nonsense to talk drug protocols. I don't see any true experts here. Shame on all of you.

How would you know if someone is an expert on this subject or not? You don't know shit about it so keep quiet.

[Van_Bilderass]

youve just repeated the basic info from every "steroid profile" on the net..  the fact is that every steroid increases rbc, and eq only mildy better at it than others..

I pretty much agree with tbombz here. There's no proof EQ or Anadrol are superior to all the rest. How many have had blood work with dbol at 1-5mg/kg/day and compared to Anadrol for example? How many have had blood work with EQ at 600mg and compared to nandrolone at the same dosage? Very few if any.

Anabolic and Erythropoietic Potency

Bodybuilders of course could usually care less about blood doping, however we do occasionally make note of the fact that steroids do enhance erythropoiesis. Although you most often hear talk of heightened RBC production with Anadrol and Equipoise in particular, this effect is not unique to these drugs. In fact all anabolic/androgenic steroids share this ability to one degree or another, usually in direct proportion to the anabolic capacity of the compound. This is due to the fact that the kidneys share a similar enzyme distribution to the muscles, namely high levels of 3alpha-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase enzymes and little 5alpha-reductase. These two enzymes are the primary force in the disassociation of the androgenic and anabolic properties of various compounds, as they serve to alter their activity in specific target tissues. Renal tissue therefore respond to androgen stimulation on a very similar level to muscle tissue.

Poor anabolics such as dihydrotestosterone and Proviron, which are highly susceptible to 3HSD deactivation in the muscles, are also poor promoters of erythropoiesis. Potent anabolics such as nandrolone, testosterone and oxymetholone are similarly good enhancers of erythropoiesis. Since most steroids outside of DHT and Proviron are at least moderately potent anabolics, they should therefore also be relatively effective at increasing red blood cell concentrations. In clinical trials often there is no advantage reported with one agent over another, even in head to head simultaneous comparisons. For example, a study looking at the effects of oxymetholone, methenolone and drostanolone in 69 patients with aplastic anemia noted a group remission rate of 48%, with no therapeutic advantage being noted with any particular compound. Stanozolol, norethandrolone and methandrostenolone are also shown to produce a similar remission rate of about 50% with patient suffering from the same condition, with again no known advantage being apparent in any. Testosterone, ethylestrenol, nandrolone, fluoxymesterone and methyltestosterone have similarly also demonstrated a marked effect on erythropoiesis, with therapeutic potential.

So you see, Winstrol, Masteron and Primo are great at increasing RBCs too.

[4thAD]

I pretty much agree with tbombz here. There's no proof EQ or Anadrol are superior to all the rest. How many have had blood work with dbol at 1-5mg/kg/day and compared to Anadrol for example? How many have had blood work with EQ at 600mg and compared to nandrolone at the same dosage? Very few if any.

So you see, Winstrol, Masteron and Primo are great at increasing RBCs too.

You would agree with tbombz about anything as of late. Get off his nuts. Anyone that has actually used EQ knows it increases significantly. You seem to be all book smart and no real experience with the bs you post as of late. Get over your self V_B.

[Captain Equipoise]

your right about different steroids have different feels and looks. water retention, effect on libido/agression, and effect on fat mass. certainly tren, winstrol, primo, masteron all seem to be a bit better at leaning you out than say dbol, test, deca, anadrol,...   and certainly test, tren, dbol, anadol for some people, anavar in high doses, anything in high doses can give great gains compared to weaker steroids like winstrool, eq, deca, ...    aromatizing steroids like test dbol anadrol (not technically aromitizable tho) deca will give water retention while non-aromatizable will give less water retention.. anavar, winstrol, tren, primo, masteron, halo...    but in the end they all are doing the same thing, they just have minor differences in how they go about it. test seems to give the best combination of all factors, except it does cause water retention but thats only because of a benefit which is high estrogen..    anyway, gotta run..

Sigh...showing your beginner mistakes again, winstrol is one of the strongest steroids around, sides are very agressive - coarsening of the hair , loss of sex drive, helping dissolve hair follicles, etc. and the anabolic gains are very good as well, much higher then primo, anavar, halo, about on par with oral turinabol. I'm talking about legit vet/human grade winstrol btw. not the cheap watered down underground shit.
 

[StanZoLOL]

Sigh...showing your beginner mistakes again, winstrol is one of the strongest steroids around, sides are very agressive - coarsening of the hair , loss of sex drive, helping dissolve hair follicles, etc. and the anabolic gains are very good as well, much higher then primo, anavar, halo, about on par with oral turinabol. I'm talking about legit vet/human grade winstrol btw. not the cheap watered down underground shit.
 

This. 50mg EOD of the Spanish Zambon winny is surprisingly potent.

[Van_Bilderass]

You would agree with tbombz about anything as of late. Get off his nuts. Anyone that has actually used EQ knows it increases significantly. You seem to be all book smart and no real experience with the bs you post as of late. Get over your self V_B.

What the fuck are you talking about. Show me the numerous posts where I've "been on his nuts". Fact of the matter is that I've posted this same exact thing several times previously here, and it's likely tbombz picked it up from me.

What have I posted that is BS? You can't debate me on a single steroid related topic and win. And my real life experience is guaranteed way more vast than yours. You are nothing but a shill for shitty UG labs.
No, anyone who has used EQ can't testify to this effect. You can't feel it... which is why you need labs.
Let me guess, Llewellyn is totally wrong also?

tbombz is young and likely to change his opinion on a number of subjects in the future but he has way more smarts than you when it comes to drugs.

[Captain Equipoise]

I pretty much agree with tbombz here. There's no proof EQ or Anadrol are superior to all the rest. How many have had blood work with dbol at 1-5mg/kg/day and compared to Anadrol for example? How many have had blood work with EQ at 600mg and compared to nandrolone at the same dosage? Very few if any.

So you see, Winstrol, Masteron and Primo are great at increasing RBCs too.

Then tell us 'o great one, why are the other steroids not used medically with anemiacs ?! (people with low RED BLOOD CELL counts) and only ANADROL is, since EQ is a Vet steroid and there IS NO HUMAN GRADE MADE ANYWHERE that is not underground.

You can quote anecdotes all you want, one of vet's (horse)  that I was buying my Equipoise from at the race track told me they use EQ specifically because it increases RBC and gives the horse phenomenal stamina in a race situation.

[Captain Equipoise]

Na thats wrong to , there is good UG gear out there , What Tbombz is saying is in fact correct about steroids doing the same thing but is very wrong in saying mg vs mg you get the same rsults , this cannot be correct as some steroids are better than others.

1000mg of test
       vs
700mg test and 300mg Tren

The second cycle will yeild better results in muscle and strength if all things are equal in regards to diet and training so in this case he is wrong and stacking does work.

I may have mistaken what you said Taylor and apoligise in advance if this is the case.

Yeah...and you're quite the expert on steroids..  I've seen the posted pictures of you, you and twinkie (van bilderass) should hit the gym and do a cycle so you actually know wtf you're talking about.

Van Bilderass

[Captain Equipoise]

This. 50mg EOD of the Spanish Zambon winny is surprisingly potent.

This is one of the only winstrol's the pro's will use.

Any contest you can go to look at the top 5 and put a shirt on them: this body was built by Zambon