Phil vs. Jay j2010 Olympia comparisons

[dantelis]

Still think Phil had Jay beat, but guess it is as some say...you got to knock out the champ, can't just win by points.  Jay had the judges leaning his way as the incumbent champ, so Phil would have to be even better and Jay even more off than he was for Phil to win.  If phil comes in as good and a bit tighter in 2011, it is his contest to lose.

Here are some comparisons:

[James Blunt]

They both kinda look like shit. Dexter should be the real winner.

[Wiggs]

Phil is killing Jay...like I said.
Jay is the true gift cause he's gotten 2 gifts from Victor and now Phil

Phil's body has caught up with his arms so he can add another inch or 2 to them.

[Genius]

When looking at pics - Phil is more photogenique.

When looking at replays - Phil is getting destroyed.

[Mr. Magoo]

jay has phil beat on.....

.....i dont know......waist size i guess

[spinnis]

jay is white in every photo 

[tendonitis]

Cutler's ab/thigh is vomit inducing.  I still don't understand how he gets away with having all that loose skin on his lower back.

[Lundgren]

Heaths facial expressions, looks like hes plowing some bitch .... Cutler looks like hes getting plowed in the ass.

[Shockwave]

Lol. Jay beat Phil on size, and is more complete, with equal conditioning. Like it or not, thats what wins.
Jay won fair and square. And when you see a REAL comparison of them standing side by side, you see phil getting dwarfed.
You guys all want to look at them when theyre standing alone, you need to look at them standing side by side, not these individual comparison photos placed side by side. they show nothing.

[Shockwave]

Look all you Heath should have won fags... here is why he lost.
Heath has shape. Yes. But thats not enough to beat Cutlers size.
And I dont even particularly like Cutler.. at all... This is probably the most objective ive ever been about any O, cause I dont give a shit about literally ANYONE competing today. If anything I like Phil better. But there is no way he beat Cutler this year.

[Neptune100]

Look all you Heath should have won fags... here is why he lost.
Heath has shape. Yes. But thats not enough to beat Cutlers size.
And I dont even particularly like Cutler.. at all... This is probably the most objective ive ever been about any O, cause I dont give a shit about literally ANYONE competing today. If anything I like Phil better. But there is no way he beat Cutler this year.

thats why Heath should have won

[lesaucer]

their muscle look, vascularity, hardness, is almost the same.same veins at the same spot, its kinda funny. I think they both hired the same drugs guru im I right? Whats his name again?

[Genius]

...if it was an "all arms"-contest, then - yes.

[Lundgren]

thats why Heath should have won

ding ding.

[Shockwave]

thats why Heath should have won

Cause hes smaller in every bodypart, legs not as sharp, but has better shape? Not to mention midget chest, arms overpowering everything, etc? You guys just hate Cutler cause hes has a wide waist. Thats it.
Sorry, bodybuilding shows arent judged on that. History has always shown that size>shape, all else being equal.

[Genius]

Jays waist is bigger than Phils, but Jay is also twice as wide.

[Lundgren]

There have been big men in the past. All jay does is bring in a larger gut. I dont get how he even made it this far. Are wide ass hips a bit of a problem.

[Genius]

Even I thought that Jay looked like a pile of shit when I saw pics of Jay standing by himself..

But..

In the replays even Stevie Wonder saw why Jay won..

[Shockwave]

There have been big men in the past. All jay does is bring in a larger gut. I dont get how he even made it this far. Are wide ass hips a bit of a problem.

And there have been smaller more shapely men in the past.
And they always lose to the big man.
I dont know why youre all bitching, this is Bodybuilding, this is how its judged, its the same every year.
Every year, the shape fans bitch and moan about how so and so got robbed, and the size guys cheer about how they got it right and people should stop bitching.
Youd think you guys would see that pattern.
Clearly the judges want size, and you guys that like "shape" are just shit outta luck. Doesnt matter if you think its right or wrong... thats the way it is.

[Lundgren]

And there have been smaller more shapely men in the past.
And they always lose to the big man.
I dont know why youre all bitching, this is Bodybuilding, this is how its judged, its the same every year.
Every year, the shape fans bitch and moan about how so and so got robbed, and the size guys cheer about how they got it right and people should stop bitching.
Youd think you guys would see that pattern.
Clearly the judges want size, and you guys that like "shape" are just shit outta luck. Doesnt matter if you think its right or wrong... thats the way it is.

The guy is 5 8 if hes trying for size I feel sorry for him. If you mean fridginess sure he got it. 

P.S. yes the fridge shit is getting old but it dont make it any less true.

[delta9mda]

Phil is killing Jay...like I said.
Jay is the true gift cause he's gotten 2 gifts from Victor and now Phil

Phil's body has caught up with his arms so he can add another inch or 2 to them.

phil still has a middle weight torso, hope this helps

[njflex]

jay outmasses heath and like what was said is just as hard as him.jay's legs top to bottom crushes all of them other than branche's.jay's quads from hips to knees are cut deep and all the heads pop out all over .good condition for a big man.

[MP]

Just noticed how fucking sick Phil's forearms look in some of those shots.

[Man of Steel]

Jay in all shots.

[honest]

Back width and thigh detail are the two factors that push it to Jay.Anyone who knows the judging criteria, whether it be right or wrong knows Jay wins. Infact Phil knows theres not much he can do to beat Jay next year as his back weakness in comparison is a structure issue hes narrow and thigh detail wise no ones  going to hang within Jay well maybe Branch, Black guys genetically struggle to get their wheels as tight as white guys, just as White guys struggle to match the black guys rear biceps detail.