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Typical Bodybuilding Drug Stack for the Mr. Olympia
« on: September 27, 2010, 05:27:26 PM »
In light of my recent post in regards to where Kai Greene (and Oscar) went wrong - it became clear to me, not many people on this board are actually aware of the intricacies of preparing for a contest like the Mr. Olympia. Think about it this way: everyone trains the same, everyone eats the same, and everyone has the same genetics (for the most part) at that level. What decides the winner? Two factors - 1) genetic response to drugs and 2) timing the drugs right. Since everyone in the top 6 has a great response to anabolics and peptides the winner of the Mr. Olympia basically comes down to who timed their chemicals right. That is how pivotal it is.

Here is the basic protocol that the pros of today are using leading up to the Mr. O. Once again, nothing ground breaking here - but hopefully it will help people understand the appearance of certain pros.

1. Contest dieting begins about 16 weeks out - anabolics are test e/test blend, moderate dosage of eq, moderate doses of tren (everyone scrambling to find the best private source), NPP from the offseason continues. peptides remain consistent - gh, igf, mgf, pgf2a, pge2. insulin protocols are about the same - most guys at this point stick with longer acting slin. typical fat burning chemicals are added into the mix at a "low" dose.

2. 10 weeks out - by this point the test has reached an all time high for contest prep, eq remains moderate, tren is progressively ramping up week by week, NPP has peaked with the test. gh remains constant with synergistic igf cycling, some gurus advocate peaking the mgf, pgf2a, pge2 at this point. slin protocols have started to change to high slin/carb days. typical fat burning chemical dosing ramps up progressively.

3. 6 weeks out - at this point test is lower but eq is higher so overall same amount in total between the two. NPP is being phased out soon. tren continues to peak to the point that pramipexole is needed (prami is the prolactin ancillary of choice right now). winstrol has been added into the mix. igf on the way out, gh the same. mgf, pgf, pge will be gone within the next few weeks. strict slin dosing with high carb days (actual breakdown of those days depends on the diet, the competitor, etc). DNP 'blasts' have become popular at around this period with todays current group of pros.

4. 3 weeks out - test is either dropped or switched to prop or suspension. eq is very high. 3-4 amps of winstrol per day. peak tren dosage here. only peptides at this point are GH (for MOST guys). masteron has been added into the mix a few weeks prior. DNP has now become blast and cruise style in conjunction with the usual fat burners. High doses of anastrazole start coming into play. High carb days are fewer but more slin is used when they happen now.

5. 1 week out to the day of the contest - not much different, carbs are dropped more so obviously that effects the slin accordingly. When the 'carb up' happens - so does the gut, from visceral fat and the huge amount of slin used as well as just the basic distention that many carbs will cause. anabolics are basically the same, masteron doses peak here if not a week sooner. most guys commence slamming as many amps of winny per day as possible. femara is now used instead of anastrazole.


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Re: Typical Bodybuilding Drug Stack for the Mr. Olympia
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2010, 05:35:22 PM »
very detailed, thanks

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Re: Typical Bodybuilding Drug Stack for the Mr. Olympia
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2010, 05:37:59 PM »
Jugding by your post count your either, a gimmick or a insider that shall remain nameless. Either way thanks for the entertainment.

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Re: Typical Bodybuilding Drug Stack for the Mr. Olympia
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2010, 05:38:35 PM »
You're as knowledgable about contest prep as a 3rd grader with down syndrome.

Thanx for your unwanted contributions to this website.


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Re: Typical Bodybuilding Drug Stack for the Mr. Olympia
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2010, 05:42:23 PM »
well if that's the secret why haven't you won the olympia yet?

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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2010, 06:11:19 PM »
You're as knowledgable about contest prep as a 3rd grader with down syndrome.

Thanx for your unwanted contributions to this website.


actually, he is pretty close....he doesnt go into numbers like mg/ml or anything.....but close none the less...

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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2010, 07:53:09 PM »
true or not that is some protocal ,how do they or are able to that yr in and out for yrs and stay focused,and stay regimented on those cycles it's literally pop,pin,pill,days on end for wks.i give them credit to do it and most look unreal on contest day but when they cut back or go off its like a whole different bber.

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Re: Typical Bodybuilding Drug Stack for the Mr. Olympia
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2010, 07:55:50 PM »
In light of my recent post in regards to where Kai Greene (and Oscar) went wrong - it became clear to me, not many people on this board are actually aware of the intricacies of preparing for a contest like the Mr. Olympia. Think about it this way: everyone trains the same, everyone eats the same, and everyone has the same genetics (for the most part) at that level. What decides the winner? Two factors - 1) genetic response to drugs and 2) timing the drugs right. Since everyone in the top 6 has a great response to anabolics and peptides the winner of the Mr. Olympia basically comes down to who timed their chemicals right. That is how pivotal it is.

Here is the basic protocol that the pros of today are using leading up to the Mr. O. Once again, nothing ground breaking here - but hopefully it will help people understand the appearance of certain pros.

1. Contest dieting begins about 16 weeks out - anabolics are test e/test blend, moderate dosage of eq, moderate doses of tren (everyone scrambling to find the best private source), NPP from the offseason continues. peptides remain consistent - gh, igf, mgf, pgf2a, pge2. insulin protocols are about the same - most guys at this point stick with longer acting slin. typical fat burning chemicals are added into the mix at a "low" dose.

2. 10 weeks out - by this point the test has reached an all time high for contest prep, eq remains moderate, tren is progressively ramping up week by week, NPP has peaked with the test. gh remains constant with synergistic igf cycling, some gurus advocate peaking the mgf, pgf2a, pge2 at this point. slin protocols have started to change to high slin/carb days. typical fat burning chemical dosing ramps up progressively.

3. 6 weeks out - at this point test is lower but eq is higher so overall same amount in total between the two. NPP is being phased out soon. tren continues to peak to the point that pramipexole is needed (prami is the prolactin ancillary of choice right now). winstrol has been added into the mix. igf on the way out, gh the same. mgf, pgf, pge will be gone within the next few weeks. strict slin dosing with high carb days (actual breakdown of those days depends on the diet, the competitor, etc). DNP 'blasts' have become popular at around this period with todays current group of pros.

4. 3 weeks out - test is either dropped or switched to prop or suspension. eq is very high. 3-4 amps of winstrol per day. peak tren dosage here. only peptides at this point are GH (for MOST guys). masteron has been added into the mix a few weeks prior. DNP has now become blast and cruise style in conjunction with the usual fat burners. High doses of anastrazole start coming into play. High carb days are fewer but more slin is used when they happen now.

5. 1 week out to the day of the contest - not much different, carbs are dropped more so obviously that effects the slin accordingly. When the 'carb up' happens - so does the gut, from visceral fat and the huge amount of slin used as well as just the basic distention that many carbs will cause. anabolics are basically the same, masteron doses peak here if not a week sooner. most guys commence slamming as many amps of winny per day as possible. femara is now used instead of anastrazole.



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Re: Typical Bodybuilding Drug Stack for the Mr. Olympia
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2010, 08:05:18 PM »
Very solid post! 8)


BFG what is the blast and cruise with DNP?  Start off high getting to around 600mg in the system constantly then backing down to 400 for some weeks?
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2010, 08:24:56 PM »
Very solid post! 8)


BFG what is the blast and cruise with DNP?  Start off high getting to around 600mg in the system constantly then backing down to 400 for some weeks?

i would think it's more like 600-800mg ed for 2 weeks, then down to 200mg for 2 weeks. even 200mg is an effective dose.

i cant see anyone running more than 800mg a day- the lethargy and other related sides would be incredibly unbearable. even at 600 they are crazy. take into account you're calorie/ carb restricted and the lethargy is even worse.

for those criticising the poster, he's pretty much bang on. a lot of guys will drop their GH by week two. faster esters/tren/eq all peaking and carried into the final week. some guys might be able to get away without the parami or caber due to the amount of winny being run. some like to run arimi from week 16 on.

provi gets well used also.

thats a nice 'grow into your show' type run right there.
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Re: Typical Bodybuilding Drug Stack for the Mr. Olympia
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2010, 08:24:56 PM »
Very solid post! 8)


BFG what is the blast and cruise with DNP?  Start off high getting to around 600mg in the system constantly then backing down to 400 for some weeks?

DNP gave me some major rash on my forarms and a metalic taste in my mouth at only 200mg a day

never touching this thing again

some friends of mine used 600mg a day with no side effects tho

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Re: Typical Bodybuilding Drug Stack for the Mr. Olympia
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2010, 08:28:23 PM »
DNP gave me some major rash on my forarms and a metalic taste in my mouth at only 200mg a day

never touching this thing again

some friends of mine used 600mg a day with no side effects tho


Good chance your stuff was tainted. Also, there is no reason to blast and cruise with DNP. Your body temp should not exceed 99 at any time. Also you need to remember that your body will do it's best to cool itself so lets say that while taking 200 mgs per day your body temp may be at normal, but you will certainly be burning fat at a good rate.

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Re: Typical Bodybuilding Drug Stack for the Mr. Olympia
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2010, 08:34:57 PM »

Good chance your stuff was tainted. Also, there is no reason to blast and cruise with DNP. Your body temp should not exceed 99 at any time. Also you need to remember that your body will do it's best to cool itself so lets say that while taking 200 mgs per day your body temp may be at normal, but you will certainly be burning fat at a good rate.
thats why DNP is awesome......not only does it burn fat, but it keeps you on your diet.....i found that out the hard way.....

for anyone that doesnt understand....get on DNP with a good steady contest diet....then out of nowhere...EAT A DOUGHNUT...you will get hot enough to where you are convinced you are dying ;D

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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2010, 08:37:12 PM »
thats why DNP is awesome......not only does it burn fat, but it keeps you on your diet.....i found that out the hard way.....

for anyone that doesnt understand....get on DNP with a good steady contest diet....then out of nowhere...EAT A DOUGHNUT...you will get hot enough to where you are convinced you are dying ;D

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didn't do that to me but my friends were sweating like crazy

we used the same dnp tho, it was fucking weird


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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2010, 08:40:06 PM »
BFG who do you think gh15 is?

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Re: Typical Bodybuilding Drug Stack for the Mr. Olympia
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2010, 08:44:31 PM »
didn't do that to me but my friends were sweating like crazy

we used the same dnp tho, it was fucking weird



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Re: Typical Bodybuilding Drug Stack for the Mr. Olympia
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2010, 08:47:51 PM »
didn't do that to me but my friends were sweating like crazy

we used the same dnp tho, it was fucking weird



I do that anyways, as soon as I eat a high carb meal I get REALLY hot and sometimes start sweating. I'm not fat or out of shape so it's extra weird. Pretty sure DNP would kill me.
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Re: Typical Bodybuilding Drug Stack for the Mr. Olympia
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2010, 08:53:37 PM »
come back in 20 years and let us all know about your cataracts...

of course if you got them they would be just a coincidence though eh?..wouldve got them anyways..
and?...thats why you weigh the options before you take it.....

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Re: Typical Bodybuilding Drug Stack for the Mr. Olympia
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2010, 09:04:28 PM »
Jugding by your post count your either, a gimmick or a insider that shall remain nameless. Either way thanks for the entertainment.
he already said who he was.

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Re: Typical Bodybuilding Drug Stack for the Mr. Olympia
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2010, 09:13:45 PM »
In light of my recent post in regards to where Kai Greene (and Oscar) went wrong - it became clear to me, not many people on this board are actually aware of the intricacies of preparing for a contest like the Mr. Olympia. Think about it this way: everyone trains the same, everyone eats the same, and everyone has the same genetics (for the most part) at that level. What decides the winner? Two factors - 1) genetic response to drugs and 2) timing the drugs right. Since everyone in the top 6 has a great response to anabolics and peptides the winner of the Mr. Olympia basically comes down to who timed their chemicals right. That is how pivotal it is.

Here is the basic protocol that the pros of today are using leading up to the Mr. O. Once again, nothing ground breaking here - but hopefully it will help people understand the appearance of certain pros.

1. Contest dieting begins about 16 weeks out - anabolics are test e/test blend, moderate dosage of eq, moderate doses of tren (everyone scrambling to find the best private source), NPP from the offseason continues. peptides remain consistent - gh, igf, mgf, pgf2a, pge2. insulin protocols are about the same - most guys at this point stick with longer acting slin. typical fat burning chemicals are added into the mix at a "low" dose.

2. 10 weeks out - by this point the test has reached an all time high for contest prep, eq remains moderate, tren is progressively ramping up week by week, NPP has peaked with the test. gh remains constant with synergistic igf cycling, some gurus advocate peaking the mgf, pgf2a, pge2 at this point. slin protocols have started to change to high slin/carb days. typical fat burning chemical dosing ramps up progressively.

3. 6 weeks out - at this point test is lower but eq is higher so overall same amount in total between the two. NPP is being phased out soon. tren continues to peak to the point that pramipexole is needed (prami is the prolactin ancillary of choice right now). winstrol has been added into the mix. igf on the way out, gh the same. mgf, pgf, pge will be gone within the next few weeks. strict slin dosing with high carb days (actual breakdown of those days depends on the diet, the competitor, etc). DNP 'blasts' have become popular at around this period with todays current group of pros.

4. 3 weeks out - test is either dropped or switched to prop or suspension. eq is very high. 3-4 amps of winstrol per day. peak tren dosage here. only peptides at this point are GH (for MOST guys). masteron has been added into the mix a few weeks prior. DNP has now become blast and cruise style in conjunction with the usual fat burners. High doses of anastrazole start coming into play. High carb days are fewer but more slin is used when they happen now.

5. 1 week out to the day of the contest - not much different, carbs are dropped more so obviously that effects the slin accordingly. When the 'carb up' happens - so does the gut, from visceral fat and the huge amount of slin used as well as just the basic distention that many carbs will cause. anabolics are basically the same, masteron doses peak here if not a week sooner. most guys commence slamming as many amps of winny per day as possible. femara is now used instead of anastrazole.



aside from dnp and some of the peptide i approve this post

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Re: Typical Bodybuilding Drug Stack for the Mr. Olympia
« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2010, 09:43:14 PM »
actually, he is pretty close....he doesnt go into numbers like mg/ml or anything.....but close none the less...

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personally i dont think these guys are using all these peptides like "bfg" thinks...

but what do i know, im just a skinny lil' twink. :(

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Re: Typical Bodybuilding Drug Stack for the Mr. Olympia
« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2010, 09:44:26 PM »
this guys obviously knows his shit

but from eveythign i have known............typical ly pro bbs dont waster their time with the unproven research peptides like MGF, PGF


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« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2010, 09:47:51 PM »
actually, he is pretty close....he doesnt go into numbers like mg/ml or anything.....but close none the less...

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« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2010, 09:49:32 PM »
Other than IGF no pros use those other peptides as they are useless.

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« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2010, 09:56:51 PM »
Other than IGF no pros use those other peptides as they are useless.


see, jim knows


those obscure research chems are worthless, if they had any viability, big pharma would have scooped them up like they did with growth hormone and igf to a lesser extent