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« on: September 28, 2010, 10:24:03 PM »

Is there any advantage to chewing Dbol in you mouth into a powder before swallowing it.  It seems to me that this may help with absorpsotion and getting it into your bloodstream more rapidly, but I really have no evidence whatsever to support this. 

Does anyone know for sure one way or the other?

I've been chewing them up, but they are quite bitter so if it is pointless, I'd prefer to just swallow them whole.

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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2010, 01:10:26 AM »

I don't think there's much if any benefit in doing what you do. Dianabol is already a 17aa-steroid so it can survive the first pass metabolism so there's no advantage in chewing them, in fact it might be bad for your teeth...
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2010, 05:04:40 AM »

Take it with some grapefruit juice..it absorbs faster
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2010, 05:52:59 AM »

I chew them up. Some dbol are pretty rock solid and they my not digest as quickly or effectively. At least bite them in half.
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2010, 07:08:24 AM »

I try and take them 1 hour before I go workout but if I forget to take them I chew them up right before I get to the gym with the thinking it absorbs faster.
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2010, 08:14:07 AM »

Dont chew them there is no need to
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2010, 06:48:59 PM »

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Curious as to if the addition of grapefruit juice dramatically enhances/improves dbol effects. Any feedback out there fellas?


Orals and Grapefruit Juice

James Maskalyk
Editorial Fellow, CMAJ

Grapefruit juice interacts with a number of medications. This unusual discovery was made serendipitously in 1989 during an experiment designed to test the effect of ethanol on a calcium-channel blocker.1 The observed response was later determined to be due to the grapefruit juice delivery vehicle rather than the alcohol. In the past decade, the list of drug interactions with grapefruit juice has expanded to include several classes of medication, precipitating a recent advisory from Health Canada.2

The interaction: As little as 250 mL of grapefruit juice can change the metabolism of some drugs.3 This drug–food interaction occurs because of a common pathway involving a specific isoform of cytochrome P450 — CYP3A4 — present in both the liver and the intestinal wall. Studies suggest that grapefruit juice exerts its effect primarily at the level of the intestine.4

After ingestion, a substrate contained in the grapefruit binds to the intestinal isoenzyme, impairing first-pass metabolism directly and causing a sustained decrease in CYP3A4 protein expression.5 Within 4 hours of ingestion, a reduction in the effective CYP3A4 concentration occurs, with effects lasting up to 24 hours.6 The net result is inhibition of drug metabolism in the intestine and increased oral bioavailability. Because of the prolonged response, separating the intake of the drug and the juice does not prevent interference.

Individuals express CYP3A4 in different proportions, those with the highest intestinal concentration being most susceptible to grapefruit juice–drug interactions.5 An effect is seen with the whole fruit as well as its juice, so caution should be exercised with both.7 The precise chemical compound in grapefruit that causes the interaction has not been identified. There is no similar reaction with orange juice, although there is some suspicion that "sour oranges" such as the Seville variety, may have some effect.8 A recent study, however, that tested the known interference of grapefruit juice with cyclosporine showed no similar effect with Seville oranges.9

There is some interest in the potential therapeutic benefit of adding grapefruit juice to a drug regimen to increase oral bioavailability.3 The limitation is the individual variation in patient response. However, if the chemical that causes grapefruit's CYP3A4 inhibition is elucidated, there may be an opportunity to modulate that pathway in a controlled fashion.

What to do: Much of the data obtained on grapefruit juice–drug interactions involved measuring serum drug concentrations in small numbers of healthy volunteers. Because of the limited data and only occasional case reports,10 it is difficult to quantify the clinical significance for individual patients. One may assume that the interaction occurs primarily with oral medicines, and only with those that share the CYP3A4 metabolism pathway, with the consequence being increased oral bioavailability, higher serum drug concentrations and associated adverse effects.


Grapefruit juice inhibits a special enzyme (CYP3A4) in the intestines that is responsible for the natural breakdown and absorption of many medications. When the action of this enzyme is blocked, the blood levels of these medications increase, which can lead potentially toxic side effects from the medications.

Research has suggested that flavonoids and/or furanocoumarin present in grapefruit are the substances that act to block the enzyme in the intestines that normally metabolizes many drugs.

Some medications that interact with grapefruit juice:
-Statins (Cholesterol Lowering Drugs)
-Antihistamines: Terfenadine
-Calcium Channel Blockers (Blood Pressure Drugs):
-Anti-convulsant: Tegretol (Carbamazepine)
-Anxiolytics: Valium (Diazepam)
-Anti-depressant: Sertraline Clomipramine
-Cortico-steroids: Methylprednisolone
-Oestrogens: Ethinyl estradiol
-Anabolic Steroids: Dianabol/Halo
-Impotence Drug: Viagra
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2010, 07:29:26 PM »

If they are Ip, chew.
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2010, 08:01:03 PM »

If they are Ip, chew.

I had their 50mg pin dbol they needed to be chewed. I cut them into peices to big to take at once.
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2010, 03:13:49 AM »

I appreciate the responses but does anayone have any scientific data or facts regarding whether or not there is any difference in effectiveness to chewing vs. not chewing Dbol?

No, i don't think anyone would pay for that study... Cheesy

If your dianabol is what it's supposed to be, there's no need to chew them.
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2010, 08:36:13 AM »

Exactly
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2010, 05:04:34 PM »

Either way they are getting into your system, chewing them will only expedite the absorption slightly.

Tried the grapefruit juice thing, no difference what so ever and I fucking hate grapefruit juice.
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