Anyone drinks red wine?

[YngiweRhoads]

Having a glass of a nice shiraz right now. Very rare I imbibe at all.

[The True Adonis]

What is "expensive wine" to you?

No joking here, i'm trying to understand what's "expensive".

89 cents a Lb.

[DK II]

89 cents a Lb.

I'm not talking about your hookers, i was talking about wine.

Sorry that i was expecting a serious answer.

[Coach is Back!]

Donkeykong, look it up, it was I think a few years ago, it was a blind test.

[DK II]

Donkeykong, look it up, it was I think a few years ago, it was a blind test.

Oh i believe you absolutely.

But you see, you have to understand the mechanics on this.

First, i doubt "Trader Joe's" has his own vineyard. So he probably buys someone's leftovers and sells them cheap. Even the big vineyard sell leftovers under a different label in some years, because they still make a profit with the wine that is still good, but not good enough for the "real" label.
Second, who was tasting the wine
Third, who was financing this event

So you see, it is not so simple.

[Matt C]

I like it. and it has beneficial penisis.

I was going to start drinking a glass a day starting this month but I'm still going to look into it.  I have not consumed alcohol at all since 2006 and not many times before that.  When I was in the USA traveling back to Canada I purchased a $29 bottle of wine which would probably cost $80 in Canada.  Socialism is awesome!  We get "free" health care here!  Because it's not like that costs $160 billion a year and we just end up paying for that in other ways.  Oh and it's not like we have to wait in 6-18 month lines for routine procedures.

PS - American capitalism is the best!!

[Tapeworm]

Never met a connoisseur who bragged about how much the wine cost.  If anything, they're proud of how little it cost and what a great find it was.

[Mr Nobody]

I eat that shit up gooder den a mufucker

How much corn liquor can you down in one setting BDB?

[DK II]

Never met a connoisseur who bragged about how much the wine cost.  If anything, they're proud of how little it cost and what a great find it was.

You buy wine by the label, not the price tag.

[Tapeworm]

You buy wine by the label, not the price tag.

I tend to just look for regions that are good for whatever grape.  It's a hit and miss system but I rarely spend over Aus$30 on a bottle anyway.

I was driving through a local growing region (Swan Valley) for work for awhile and found some decent white blends for $10 a bottle by the case!  Expensive wine?  Bah!

[DK II]

I tend to just look for regions that are good for whatever grape.  It's a hit and miss system but I rarely spend over Aus$30 on a bottle anyway.

I was driving through a local growing region (Swan Valley) for work for awhile and found some decent white blends for $10 a bottle by the case!  Expensive wine?  Bah!

Nothing against expensive wine, there are some small vineyards all over the world that produce great wine in small quantities for a price.

But you are right, for the "normal" wine drinker, you don't have to spend much money to get good wine. I like your regional approach, definitely a great way to buy directly at the vineyeard!

[Tapeworm]

Nothing against expensive wine, there are some small vineyards all over the world that produce great wine in small quantities for a price.

But you are right, for the "normal" wine drinker, you don't have to spend much money to get good wine. I like your regional approach, definitely a great way to buy directly at the vineyeard!

With Swan Valley to the north and Margaret River to the south, it's a miracle I'm not soused right now. 

Also had good luck with Hunter Valley whites at reasonable prices.  You'll find them all over the world.

[kiwiol]

I tend to just look for regions that are good for whatever grape.  It's a hit and miss system but I rarely spend over Aus$30 on a bottle anyway.

I was driving through a local growing region (Swan Valley) for work for awhile and found some decent white blends for $10 a bottle by the case!  Expensive wine?  Bah!

Have you seen the movie 'Sideways'?

[Tapeworm]

Have you seen the movie 'Sideways'?

Quite awhile ago.  "I'm not drinking fucking merlot!"

I remember those guys were total sleazeballs and I lol'd.  I like to think I'm aging a little better.

[MORTALCOIL]

The thing is you have good wines in most price ranges but you can't expect too much from really cheap wines (in France, under 6€, you get shit but over that price you start finding nice stuff though you really have to hunt for those). After, you have to know that the production system is nothing alike if you take for exmaple a Burgundy wine and a Bordeaux. Most great Bordeaux are overpriced according to me. Burgundy are even more expensive but the value for money is somehow better though you have to select carefully also. I'll take any day a 20€ bottle of Burgundy then a 30€ Bordeaux. Wine is a combination between the grape selection, the region and the producer.

[Purple Aki]

I'm quite partial to a nice rioja, but now that the weather is getting a bit nippy it's all about a nice glass of port in the evening.

Or if out on a session, a pint of Guinness with a shot of port in it.

[dr.chimps]

 

[Tito24]

[MORTALCOIL]

That's a nice selection of Bordeaux. First is Leoville Las Cases then Mouton Rotschild (1983 is a great vintage) then Beychevelle (from Saint Julien like the first), Calon Segur and Lynch Bages.

[Tito24]

sounds like ur in the know mortalcoil

[MORTALCOIL]

sounds like ur in the know mortalcoil

I'm French. So for all the downsides and the shit we're given (rigthfully) from others, we've got wine to forget.

[Tapeworm]

And labels no one else can understand. 

[MORTALCOIL]

And labels no one else can understand. 

Yes and it gets even more difficult when you go from one region to another. Bordeaux are quite simple though. You just have to figure from which part of Bordeaux it is to know if it's a majority of merlot or Cab Sauvignon whihc is used. Burgundies are a bitch. Côte du Rhône and Val de Loire are a bit easier. South Eats and South West are not easy to figure out either.

[Butterbean]

Very good cheap (~11-15) red wine:

Clos du Bois Merlot
Aquinas Cab
Newton Claret
Stelzner Claret
Hogue Genesis Syrah
Haman and Hill Cab
Dynamite Cab


Very good but little more expensive (15-50)

Beringer Knight's Valley Cab
St. Francis Cab
Dry Creek Meritage
Archery Summit Pinot Noir
Benziger Cab
Duckhorn Merlot


Expensive but worth it (special occasion)

Silver Oak Cab  

[MORTALCOIL]

Very good cheap (~11-15) red wine:

Clos du Bois Merlot
Aquinas Cab
Newton Claret
Stelzner Claret
Hogue Genesis Syrah
Haman and Hill Cab
Dynamite Cab


Very good but little more expensive (15-50)

Beringer Knight's Valley Cab
St. Francis Cab
Dry Creek Meritage
Archery Summit Pinot Noir
Benziger Cab
Duckhorn Merlot


Expensive but worth it (special occasion)

Silver Oak Cab  

I realize how little I know about American wines. And very little about Australian and Sout African ones also. A little about Italian and Spanish though (had a Ribera Del Duero recently that was a killer). Awaiting a bottle of Penfolds Grange from an Aussie friend of mine.