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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #125 on: September 30, 2010, 05:20:44 PM »
Quote from: Fallsview on September 30, 2010, 05:09:26 PM
Exactly, It's the philosophy brother! So why argue about God or not,  If someone wants to worship a rock but they are good, loving people then why not? 

You seem to be on the anti-religion bandwagon.  How many nasty posts have you written on here hurting others in the process?  Maybe you should follow the judeo/christian "philosophy" and be a "nicer" person. Yeah?
Why is the word philosophy in quotes?
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #126 on: September 30, 2010, 05:50:53 PM »
Quote from: Fallsview on September 30, 2010, 05:09:26 PM
Exactly, It's the philosophy brother! So why argue about God or not,  If someone wants to worship a rock but they are good, loving people then why not?  

You seem to be on the anti-religion bandwagon.  How many nasty posts have you written on here hurting others in the process?  Maybe you should follow the judeo/christian "philosophy" and be a "nicer" person. Yeah?

It was you that decided to jump into this thread and imply that anyone who doesn't believe in a god is an inherent murderer and bank robber. Now you want sympathy from me?  :D  I don't feel the need to break any laws, Fallsview - maybe an occasional speeding ticket.  :o I file my taxes, I donate to charities... I don't need your god to be a nicer person either. If you can't handle a little bit of my debating, you're free to ignore me  :)
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #127 on: September 30, 2010, 05:56:07 PM »
"You can only pray so much, after that, it's begging"

Archie Bunker
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #128 on: September 30, 2010, 06:42:36 PM »
Believing in a higher power is not a bad thing, I do not understand how you can say it is.  I guess it is normal for people to attack those who do not follow the same belief system as themselves.  I can say this though, I never have has as much fulfillment in my life until I made the decision to accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior.  And in all honesty, everything else in this world has lost any real value to me other than God, my family, and friends.  Religion truly opens your eyes, even though others say it closes them.
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #129 on: September 30, 2010, 07:19:51 PM »
Quote from: Fallsview on September 30, 2010, 04:02:57 PM
Well, If you don't believe in God and this is it....WHAT'S STOPPING YOU?????  Go rob a bank, kill a few of your hated enemies.  You don't have to worry about your after life.  If your smart and get away from it then go to it.   That's one thing I figure out about Athiests!

so you're saying you have no morals?

this "god" character is the only thing that prevents you from being a piece of shit?

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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #130 on: September 30, 2010, 08:55:14 PM »
LOL oh my good god holy jesus christians are fuckin hilarious  ;D

hahahahahahahahah. holyshit it's gold.
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #131 on: September 30, 2010, 08:59:32 PM »
I think christianity must be like some sort of elaborate santa clause. You're too dumb to know (or admit to yourself) that it's all ridiculous.
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #132 on: September 30, 2010, 09:35:35 PM »
Quote from: Nails on September 29, 2010, 05:24:15 PM
Next time your Lord Jeasus christ is in your presence inform him that his Shitty people in the sand are cutting peoples heads off and his Sacrifice on the cross didn't change shit, Tell him to have a better game plan next time

and you think that is true Christianity?

oh brother
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #133 on: October 01, 2010, 01:25:21 AM »
Quote from: Butterbean on September 30, 2010, 11:55:30 AM
How do fossils test our faith  ???

They don't, of course.  He's no good for serious discussion but I find the religion pigeon meme hilarious.  He's right up there with the foul bachelor frog (present!) for cheap yuks.
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #134 on: October 01, 2010, 04:10:34 AM »
Quote from: FREAKgeek on September 30, 2010, 05:50:53 PM
It was you that decided to jump into this thread and imply that anyone who doesn't believe in a god is an inherent murderer and bank robber. Now you want sympathy from me?  :D  I don't feel the need to break any laws, Fallsview - maybe an occasional speeding ticket.  :o I file my taxes, I donate to charities... I don't need your god to be a nicer person either. If you can't handle a little bit of my debating, you're free to ignore me  :)

You seem to have a "healthy ego" saying I want sympathy from you, I don't and I never stated that.  "My God"?  I don't think I even brought up I was religious.  My point is anything too much is bad for oneself, and that goes for religion.  If a religion is of peace than whats the harm of it?  It is the people on TV, acting crazy and asking for money that "derail" the followers and who's fault is that?  I'm glad your "tooting your horn" with the paying taxes and charity bit.  Good for you.  But one does notice you seem "angry" and alittle "bent" about religion.  It is only when you learn to let go you will truly learn how to live.  A very wise man once roaming these boards once said...Godspeed! 
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #135 on: October 01, 2010, 05:42:17 AM »
Quote from: jwinn8705 on September 30, 2010, 06:42:36 PM
Believing in a higher power is not a bad thing, I do not understand how you can say it is.  I guess it is normal for people to attack those who do not follow the same belief system as themselves.  I can say this though, I never have has as much fulfillment in my life until I made the decision to accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior.  And in all honesty, everything else in this world has lost any real value to me other than God, my family, and friends.  Religion truly opens your eyes, even though others say it closes them.
You have got to be kidding me.

That's the history of religion right from the beginning.

An atheist may argue with you, but it's the last person you need to worry about. Other people's make believe is going to clash with yours and this is where the violence always is.

Why can't you just admit that your need for identity has overcome your logic?
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #136 on: October 01, 2010, 05:52:02 AM »
Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings.
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #137 on: October 01, 2010, 05:59:55 AM »
Quote from: jtsunami on September 29, 2010, 05:02:54 PM
Correct, Muslims do not ask for things from Allah.  Allah blesses Muslims with blessings beyond anyone's dreams.  They need not to ask, Allah will provide. 




Then why the fuq pray to God 5x a day. Isn't that a bit excessive, since I'm already going to be blessed? And what about those women who pray and then are raped, then stoned for being raped? Is that a blessing?
Let's face it, there is no better religion, the bullshit that "this is the one true religion", is bullshit. As is the only way to heaven is thru Jesus, just another way of saying, "this is the one true religion".

All Islam really is, is a extreme reaction to the breakdown and fall of a certain empire and the lawlessness of the time within trade routes. To protect these people and to establish order, extreme measures needed to be taken...

Laws are good for the Lawless, but must adapt to current times.
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #138 on: October 01, 2010, 06:03:56 AM »
Quote from: Deicide on September 30, 2010, 12:52:27 PM

Carbon dating is not based on faith. Nor are the DOZENS of other dating systems used in science. That is just pure ignorance. You don't really believe that millions of scientists have over the decades developed multiple dating systems based on faith do you? :-\

Do you believe that carbon dating or the "dozens of other dating systems" have any flaws?

Also, accepting carbon dating etc. as infallibly true from what you have read/been taught by other people w/o empirically testing it yourself means you have faith in it.  Just like I have faith in God.  You knew I would post this angle ;D
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #139 on: October 01, 2010, 06:07:39 AM »
Quote from: Deicide on September 30, 2010, 12:54:09 PM
It applies to Tillman himself as he is described as not being religious.

The brother seems to believe that Tillman rejected God/religion up until the moment of his death.   I don't think we can assume that about anyone.
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #140 on: October 01, 2010, 06:08:19 AM »
Quote from: garebear on October 01, 2010, 05:42:17 AM
You have got to be kidding me.

That's the history of religion right from the beginning.

An atheist may argue with you, but it's the last person you need to worry about. Other people's make believe is going to clash with yours and this is where the violence always is.

Why can't you just admit that your need for identity has overcome your logic?

That's the thing, I don't need relgion for identity.  I'm sure I could be a happy person without being religious.  A lot of people are.  It's not about that though.  Any person can be a good person, it's about why you live your life the way you do, the fulfillment it gives you, and in the end, what happens to you.
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #141 on: October 01, 2010, 06:09:23 AM »
Quote from: caseyviator on September 30, 2010, 03:43:25 PM
what really sucks is when you die....
thats it ,,its done ..
there is nothing else its over
unfortuately
there is no god
no supreme being
no ala
i mean
nothing
the end
just dirt!
and that really sucks bad!!!!

Why would that suck?  If that's the way it is you wouldn't know any better..no regrets or pain ...nothing right?
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #142 on: October 01, 2010, 06:23:21 AM »
Quote from: Nails on September 30, 2010, 04:53:21 PM
That's why GOD gave us the ability to create the ADAM BOMB so we can destroy not only ourselves but every living thing GOD ever created into extinction

The fall of man?  Clever!
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #143 on: October 01, 2010, 06:54:04 AM »
Zero evidence for a creator of the Universe.

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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #144 on: October 01, 2010, 07:08:32 AM »
Quote from: YngiweRhoads on October 01, 2010, 06:54:04 AM
Zero evidence for a creator of the Universe.

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Look at it this way also:  Zero evidence that the Universe was created, maybe it was always here?
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #145 on: October 01, 2010, 07:13:11 AM »
Quote from: Fallsview on October 01, 2010, 07:08:32 AM
Look at it this way also:  Zero evidence that the Universe was created, maybe it was always here?

It appears so actually.

Universe(s) appear to spring forth from quantum fluctuations every now and then, apparently. No such thing as nothing, meaning no beginning.
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #146 on: October 01, 2010, 08:33:37 AM »
Quote from: YngiweRhoads on October 01, 2010, 07:13:11 AM
It appears so actually.

Universe(s) appear to spring forth from quantum fluctuations every now and then, apparently. No such thing as nothing, meaning no beginning.

that's a theory
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #147 on: October 01, 2010, 08:38:49 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Magoo on October 01, 2010, 08:33:37 AM
that's a theory

It's an hypothesis, not a theory, which is supported by corroborating EVIDENCE.
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #148 on: October 01, 2010, 08:41:18 AM »
Quote from: YngiweRhoads on October 01, 2010, 08:38:49 AM
Supported by EVIDENCE.

it's still a theory though. Theres another competing theory with the whole oscillating universe thing. I cant think of it off hand since I'm not really into universe stuff. I just remember it being as equally depressing lol
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Re: What do religious people think they are doing when they pray?
« Reply #149 on: October 01, 2010, 08:45:22 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Magoo on October 01, 2010, 08:41:18 AM
I just remember it being as equally depressing lol
Yes, and lol. haha

Spontaneous/uncaused existence has been hypothesized to occur in the form of virtual particles, which is interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particles
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