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Reuters: ObamaCare to cause doctor shortage of 50% by 2015!
« on: October 01, 2010, 01:32:45 PM »
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The U.S. healthcare reform law will worsen a shortage of physicians as millions of newly insured patients seek care, the Association of American Medical Colleges said on Thursday.

The group's Center for Workforce Studies released new estimates that showed shortages would be 50 percent worse in 2015 than forecast.

"While previous projections showed a baseline shortage of 39,600 doctors in 2015, current estimates bring that number closer to 63,000, with a worsening of shortages through 2025," the group said in a statement.

"The United States already was struggling with a critical physician shortage and the problem will only be exacerbated as 32 million Americans acquire health care coverage, and an additional 36 million people enter Medicare."

Medicare is the federal health insurance plan for people over the age of 65, and census projections show that group growing as the giant baby boomer generation born from 1946 to 1964 hits retirement age.

The U.S. healthcare reform plan signed into law by President Barack Obama in March is designed to provide insurance to 32 million Americans who now lack it.

The AAMC projected a shortage of 33,100 physicians in specialties such as cardiology, oncology and emergency medicine in 2015.

It calls for Congress to increase funding to train new doctors. "The number of medical school students continues to increase, adding 7,000 graduates every year over the next decade," the AAMC said.

It said at least 15 percent more were needed.

Other groups, such as the nonprofit Rand Corporation and the Institute of Medicine, have also projected various physician shortages.

(Editing by Peter Cooney)

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Re: Reuters: ObamaCare to cause doctor shortage of 50% by 2015!
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2010, 01:44:24 PM »
time for a career path change; get in on the new area where there will be plenty of jobs!
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Re: Reuters: ObamaCare to cause doctor shortage of 50% by 2015!
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2010, 01:45:11 PM »
time for a career path change; get in on the new area where there will be plenty of jobs!

Yes, take on an extra $200k in debt so you can join a field where the salaries have been falling yearly.

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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2010, 01:55:16 PM »
Yes, take on an extra $200k in debt so you can join a field where the salaries have been falling yearly.
or just get a scholarship; whats with all this 'taking out a loan' talk??
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Re: Reuters: ObamaCare to cause doctor shortage of 50% by 2015!
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2010, 02:46:08 PM »
1) I'm against obamacare.  So feel free to shine my knob if you want to accuse me of kneepadding obamacare.

2) Could it be doctors have been making TOO MUCH MONEY all along?  Just a thought.  Maybe this is just shit leveling out.

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Re: Reuters: ObamaCare to cause doctor shortage of 50% by 2015!
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2010, 02:49:29 PM »
1) I'm against obamacare.  So feel free to shine my knob if you want to accuse me of kneepadding obamacare.

2) Could it be doctors have been making TOO MUCH MONEY all along?  Just a thought.  Maybe this is just shit leveling out.

 ::) 

The average Doc makes 150k a year.    Is that too much according to you to someone who goes to school for 10 years, delays income earning until past 30 y/o, probably has 200k in debt? 

did i mention save your life? 

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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2010, 02:52:48 PM »
::) 

The average Doc makes 150k a year.    Is that too much according to you to someone who goes to school for 10 years, delays income earning until past 30 y/o, probably has 200k in debt? 

did i mention save your life? 

Hey, it's just a thought. 

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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2010, 02:54:25 PM »
Hey, it's just a thought. 

Do you want Julio or peggy in the operating room? 

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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2010, 02:59:02 PM »
If he can remove an appendix like he can cook a mcGriddle, sounds good to me

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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2010, 03:01:21 PM »
If he can remove an appendix like he can cook a mcGriddle, sounds good to me

After 4 years he is not even an assistant manager yet?  I really don't think you want him near your body bro? 

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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2010, 03:04:16 PM »
After 4 years he is not even an assistant manager yet?

Bush's fault

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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2010, 03:05:11 PM »
Bush's fault

He has been there now for 2 years during Obama so as some point Bush can't be blamed anymore. 

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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2010, 03:07:06 PM »
He has been there now for 2 years during Obama so as some point Bush can't be blamed anymore. 

Change takes time . . it took time to free the slaves.

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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2010, 03:08:52 PM »
Change takes time . . it took time to free the slaves.

Burger Flippers of the world unite! 

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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2010, 03:10:26 PM »
Burger Flippers of the world unite! 

God want the dems to keep the senate so Julio can get that promotion.

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« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2010, 03:13:29 PM »
God want the dems to keep the senate so Julio can get that promotion.

If he hasnt got it by now, its never coming. 

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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2010, 03:14:21 PM »
If he hasnt got it by now, its never coming. 


Didn't you hear?  Success arrives  'in Chunks'

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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2010, 03:18:09 PM »

Didn't you hear?  Success arrives  'in Chunks'

Yeah, after drinking tons of alochol I chunk success right into the toilet. 

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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2010, 03:22:48 PM »
Yeah, after drinking tons of alochol I chunk success right into the toilet. 

Your binge drinking is destructive to the growth of the country

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« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2010, 07:53:35 AM »

2) Could it be doctors have been making TOO MUCH MONEY all along?  Just a thought.  Maybe this is just shit leveling out.

This now takes the cake as the most ignorant thing I have ever read from you.

Do you have any idea how long it takes? honestly 240, do you?

One of my best friends from College, who is now a Cardiologist, didn't finish until he was 37 years old.

Take a look:

4 years of College

then

4 years of Medical School

then

3 years of Residency in Internal Medicine

then

3 years of Fellowship in Cardiology

then

2 years of specialty training in Interventional Cardiology

He lived in rented rooms, and dorms until almost the age of 40, eating cheap food, and now has a huge loan to pay off.

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Re: Reuters: ObamaCare to cause doctor shortage of 50% by 2015!
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2010, 07:59:28 AM »
you make good points dude. 

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« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2010, 08:05:30 AM »
you make good points dude.  

240, honestly, you are a good person, and smart too, that is why some of your points baffle me om here, it just makes no sense.

If you or one of your loved ones ever needs life saving surgery, I bet that you will get down your knees, and think the good Lord that this Surgeon gave 15 years of his/her adult life to get trained at what he does, and you will also come to agree that he or she is worth every penny.

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« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2010, 08:16:10 AM »
This now takes the cake as the most ignorant thing I have ever read from you.

Do you have any idea how long it takes? honestly 240, do you?

One of my best friends from College, who is now a Cardiologist, didn't finish until he was 37 years old.

Take a look:

4 years of College

then

4 years of Medical School

then

3 years of Residency in Internal Medicine

then

3 years of Fellowship in Cardiology

then

2 years of specialty training in Interventional Cardiology

He lived in rented rooms, and dorms until almost the age of 40, eating cheap food, and now has a huge loan to pay off.

Most people who spout that shit have no idea how long it takes to become a doctor. They're completely oblivious to the amount of time spent in residencies/fellowships/training where you're making maybe $40k while working 70+ hour weeks after college/med school. They think it's just another 4 years after college and *boom* 6-figure salaries.

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« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2010, 08:46:12 AM »
This now takes the cake as the most ignorant thing I have ever read from you.

Do you have any idea how long it takes? honestly 240, do you?

One of my best friends from College, who is now a Cardiologist, didn't finish until he was 37 years old.

Take a look:

4 years of College

then

4 years of Medical School

then

3 years of Residency in Internal Medicine

then

3 years of Fellowship in Cardiology

then

2 years of specialty training in Interventional Cardiology

He lived in rented rooms, and dorms until almost the age of 40, eating cheap food, and now has a huge loan to pay off.
I agree with your reply.  I don't have a problem with how much doctors make.  Your reply to 240 is a spot on response.  But at the same time, it should make you ask some bigger questions?  Do you not see a problem with what you just said?  Think about that shit.

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« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2010, 08:52:31 AM »
I agree with your reply.  I don't have a problem with how much doctors make.  Your reply to 240 is a spot on response.  But at the same time, it should make you ask some bigger questions?  Do you not see a problem with what you just said?  Think about that shit.

The last thing most people would probably want is some 26-year-old kid fresh out of med school doing open heart surgery on them.

And given how quick people are to sue for malpractice these days, I think less training will make that shit even worse.