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Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
By Joseph Bland
Published October 01, 2010
FoxNews.com
 
Attention, videogamers. You can't be the Taliban anymore.

The videogame manufacturer Electronic Arts, bowing to strong criticism from U.S. military officials and veterans organizations, made changes Friday to “Medal of Honor,” the newest installment in its series of American-based war games.

Set in modern-day Afghanistan, “Medal of Honor” had been designed to allow players to take on the role of the Taliban in its multiplayer mode, and to kill American soldiers -- a capability that came under withering fire from military officials and U.S. veterans.

The Army & Air Force Exchange Service went so far as to request that American military bases not stock it.

"Out of respect to those we serve, we will not be stocking this game," Maj. Gen. Bruce Casella, the service's commanding officer, said in an interview. "We regret any inconvenience this may cause authorized shoppers, but are optimistic that they will understand the sensitivity to the life and death scenarios this product presents as entertainment."

On Friday, the gaming company waved the white flag.

“We changed the name of the opposing team in the multiplayer mode,” said Electronic Arts publicist Amanda Taggart. “Now the opposing team is called ‘opposing forces.’”

The game's executive producer, Greg Goodrich, also addressed critics and war officials on the "Medal of Honor" blog Friday morning, saying, “This franchise will never willfully disrespect, intentionally or otherwise, your memory and service.”

The changes are exclusive to the multiplayer mode, Taggart noted. “Game-play, environment, characters and weapons are exactly the same” in the single-player game, she said, meaning the player, who is always on the American side, can kill the Taliban to his heart's content.

Videogames that deal with war and combat have elicited disdain from some war veteran organizations, including AMVETS, an organization dedicated to accommodating American soldiers.

“We’ve heard from vets about games in the past that deal with wars,” Deputy National Communications Director Ryan Galucci said. “And products like this trivialize combat.”

“Medal of Honor” isn’t the first game to spark controversy for allowing players to control nationally recognized American enemies. “Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II,” a game developed by Activision, allowed players to control Taliban-like forces, though they didn’t bear the actual name.

Activision satisfied its critics by offering to donate a portion of their profits from the game to the Call of Duty Endowment, which benefits veterans.

Galucci suggested that Electronic Arts should do the same.

“There’s a way for EA to turn this into a positive experience," he said. “They can ... donate a share of their income from the game to veterans.”

Set for an Oct. 12 release, “Medal of Honor” has already reached the highest number of pre-sale units sold in the franchise’s 11-year history, Electronic Arts said.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/10/01/medal-honor-makes-changes-allowing-players-control-taliban/

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just a video game idiots  ;D

just a game
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That's one way to look at it.  Another is we have soldiers dying in Afghanistan, some being killed by the Taliban. 

I'd be opposed to government intervention/censorship, but you gotta wonder what the designers were thinking when they created this option. 

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That's one way to look at it.  Another is we have soldiers dying in Afghanistan, some being killed by the Taliban. 

I'd be opposed to government intervention/censorship, but you gotta wonder what the designers were thinking when they created this option. 

so sending real life soldiers off to die for economic/strategic interests is fine but playing as the "enemy" in some video game is not...

huh
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so sending real life soldiers off to die for economic/strategic interests is fine but playing as the "enemy" in some video game is not...

huh

?  We put our volunteer force in harm's way, but that has nothing to with this issue. 

You have to put yourself in the shoes of the family members who lost loved ones at the hands of the Taliban, the service members still in harm's way, veterans, etc.  I'm not sure I agree they should stop making the game, but I do understand why people would have a problem with it. 

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That's one way to look at it.  Another is we have soldiers dying in Afghanistan, some being killed by the Taliban. 

I'd be opposed to government intervention/censorship, but you gotta wonder what the designers were thinking when they created this option. 

Actually you gotta wonder why we invaded Afghanistan and why we are still there...nigh 10 years on.
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Actually you gotta wonder why we invaded Afghanistan and why we are still there...nigh 10 years on.

were to concerned with video games to care about something like that...................  ::)
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Actually you gotta wonder why we invaded Afghanistan and why we are still there...nigh 10 years on.

We know exactly why we invaded Afghanistan, which also has zero to do with this issue. 

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We know exactly why we invaded Afghanistan, which also has zero to do with this issue. 

why did we

terrorism exists globally but we decided to fight it in little old afghanistan and irak, huh i wonder why that is  ;D
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We know exactly why we invaded Afghanistan, which also has zero to do with this issue. 

I disagree. We don't know why; lots of theories but no one knows for sure.

It's just a video game anyway...
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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2010, 07:25:42 PM »
I disagree. We don't know why; lots of theories but no one knows for sure.

It's just a video game anyway...

The Taliban hosted Al Qaeda and allowed them to use Afghanistan as a training ground for terrorist attacks, including the 911 attacks.  Bin Laden, the 911 mastermind, was in Afghanistan.  Those aren't theories.     

It's a game, but that's only part of the analysis.   

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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2010, 07:27:50 PM »
The Taliban hosted Al Qaeda and allowed them to use Afghanistan as a training ground for terrorist attacks, including the 911 attacks.  Bin Laden, the 911 mastermind, was in Afghanistan.  Those aren't theories.     

It's a game, but that's only part of the analysis.   

And why are we still there?
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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2010, 07:28:59 PM »
And why are we still there?

Good question.  I'm not sure what our current military objective is. 

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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2010, 07:40:06 PM »
Wait a minute, the Taliban is part of lunatic Islam, doesnt that mean Hugo should move this to the Religious board, lol!?!

To the point, no, the government has no right to censor the game, they didn't try to and that's good. On another note, it is of very low class for the designers and manufacturers of the game to set it up the way they did. How about a game called "Medal of Honor: NYC" you can be the terrorist flying into the WTC. Same difference and it's pretty low.

To those who keep bringing up that this is a stupid argument, sure, it's not nearly as important as other things but it's still something to talk about...please, take your medicine.

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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2010, 05:36:51 AM »
RPF bringing the brilliance on this thread.

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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2010, 05:51:10 AM »
Wait a minute, the Taliban is part of lunatic Islam, doesnt that mean Hugo should move this to the Religious board, lol!?!

To the point, no, the government has no right to censor the game, they didn't try to and that's good. On another note, it is of very low class for the designers and manufacturers of the game to set it up the way they did. How about a game called "Medal of Honor: NYC" you can be the terrorist flying into the WTC. Same difference and it's pretty low.

To those who keep bringing up that this is a stupid argument, sure, it's not nearly as important as other things but it's still something to talk about...please, take your medicine.
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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2010, 06:47:46 AM »
Good question.  I'm not sure what our current military objective is.  


Ask our current prez.
How many additional troops did he deploy there after "promising" to get us out of that region (along with the rest of his laundry list of miracles)?


I'm with A.J.
I'd hate to see govt. censorship over a lousy video game - that's simple 1st Ammendment rights.
By the same token, I think it's extremely poor judgement/taste for anyone to make a game with options like those.
Arnold's NYC-version analogy illustrates that ethos perfectly.

This is, yet, another example of something that seems to tie into the argument, "just because you have a right to do something doesn't make it the right/good thing to do."


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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2010, 07:08:16 AM »
Who the hell cares?  GTA series is one of the best games ever and popping off cops is one of the best parts of the game. 

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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2010, 07:38:17 AM »
Well, considering that I help make this game, and you can look for me on the credits, I can give you some insight.

We are making a modern day combat game... It takes place in Afghanistan. So your factions can only be 2 choices.

You're either US forces, or you're Taliban.

It's pretty simple... It's just about being authentic in the game. Nothing else.

So now we have to change the name to "Opposition Forces", which is stupid... YOU ALL KNOW it's the fucking Taliban... isn't it the context not the words?

I can't believe EA is caving in to this... Stupid corporate crap.

It's absolutely retarded... If you play a WW2 shooter and you have to be the Nazi's does anyone bitch? No... It's the same damn thing.

People need to


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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2010, 07:52:15 AM »
Its just more nonsense.  I am against any censorship whatsoever unless it involves kids. 

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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2010, 08:00:03 AM »
We already have a Rated: M rating on the game... so if kids get it, then that's on their parents.

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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2010, 09:01:33 AM »
That's one way to look at it.  Another is we have soldiers dying in Afghanistan, some being killed by the Taliban. 

I'd be opposed to government intervention/censorship, but you gotta wonder what the designers were thinking when they created this option. 

They were thinking individuals would be smart enough to tell the difference between a game and real life but sadly they underestimated the stupidity of some. Its no different then Looney Tunes cartoons that are totally edited now becasue todays retarded kids seems to have forgotten that blowing the bill off a drawn duck is not the same as putting a gun to your own face and pulling the trigger.

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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2010, 09:08:16 AM »
Good question.  I'm not sure what our current military objective is.  


What a joke of an excuse.


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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2010, 09:26:59 AM »
Well, considering that I help make this game, and you can look for me on the credits, I can give you some insight.

We are making a modern day combat game... It takes place in Afghanistan. So your factions can only be 2 choices.

You're either US forces, or you're Taliban.

It's pretty simple... It's just about being authentic in the game. Nothing else.

So now we have to change the name to "Opposition Forces", which is stupid... YOU ALL KNOW it's the fucking Taliban... isn't it the context not the words?

I can't believe EA is caving in to this... Stupid corporate crap.

It's absolutely retarded... If you play a WW2 shooter and you have to be the Nazi's does anyone bitch? No... It's the same damn thing.

People need to



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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2010, 10:18:49 AM »
I'm not sure what our current military objective is. 



Basically to maintain security, train the Afghan security force, and help with the government until we begin withdrawl in July 2011.