lol. thx guys. i didn't use much at all. tren and diuretics don't mix with kidney issues. i'm smarter than that. lol. i'd post my cycle but then i'd probably get called out by the peanut gallery. recognition noone? lol. got me on the legs though. lol. i didn't do any heavy squatting because of my curved spine problems. i'll train with any of you and hang.................on back day. lol. man of steel, im at spectrum bandera point. u in sa?