2010 Olympia - Jay vs Phil - Bad Judges or Bad Politics???

[Sherief Shalaby]

 

[Sherief Shalaby]

 

[Sherief Shalaby]

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

neither... just people who can't grasp how contests are judged.

[Parker]

neither... just people who can't grasp how contests are judged.

I'm willing to bet that if asked, Dorian , Haney, and Ronnie (hell, even Arnold) would not say Jay won that night.

[affeman]

To knock out the champ, you gotta be at least 20 % better. Maybe the gap was still too close this year.

But like I said before, if Jay had ended up in 4th, noone would have complained either.

[Parker]

To knock out the champ, you gotta be at least 20 % better. Maybe the gap was still too close this year.

But like I said before, if Jay had ended up in 4th, noone would have complained either.

The champ has no back, the bodypart that all other Mr. O's had over everybody...Jay, has only size. He is a substandard Mr. O, he marginalizes the title.

[affeman]

The champ has no back, the bodypart that all other Mr. O's had over everybody...Jay, has only size. He is a substandard Mr. O, he marginalizes the title.

Totally agree (waiting for UnSung meltdown )

[WillGrant]

I'm willing to bet that if asked, Dorian , Haney, and Ronnie (hell, even Arnold) would not say Jay won that night.

All those guys were lucky on one or more occassions to , as said it takes quiet a bit more to beat the reigning champ than just a tad bit better.Personaly I think they all look like utter crap , guys walking around at 3 % BF yet still look like bloated dinosaurs with bigger guts than a 9 month pregnant woman its a disgrace.

[garebear]

I thought this was going to be a thread about the Supreme Court.

[Sherief Shalaby]

they should have marked jay down for his clearly smaller righ leg.. it killed the symmetry of his lower body.. also phil was clearly better in the 2 back poses, the side tricep, and the FDB.. IMO jay was better only in the side chest and it was by a small margin.. both are not impressive in the abs/thigh pose..

phil too has his weak points but i believe overall deserved to win.. also dont know how branch beat dex.!!!.. if dex was a guy with more charisma he would have easily taken 2nd if not the 1st place!!..

anyway it was not as bad as 2007!!..

[Sherief Shalaby]

jay deserved to win only in 2006 and last year.. may be 2001 too if we ignored the illegal drugs he used 

[NarcissisticDeity]

jay deserved to win only in 2006 and last year.. may be 2001 too if we ignored the illegal drugs he used 

If you want to get technical Ronnie wore multi-colored trunks which is ' illegal ' according to the IFBB so he should have lost then too just based on that

[WillGrant]

jay deserved to win only in 2006 and last year.. may be 2001 too if we ignored the illegal drugs he used 

lol are any of the drugs legal ?

[Sherief Shalaby]

If you want to get technical Ronnie wore multi-colored trunks which is ' illegal ' according to the IFBB so he should have lost then too just based on that

are you trying to say that levrone should have won and nasser should have been in the 7th place?..

[NarcissisticDeity]

are you trying to say that levrone should have won and nasser should have been in the 7th place?..

I'm not saying anything , I'm saying if you want to get technical then why stop at Jay?

[Sherief Shalaby]

lol are any of the drugs legal ?

sure since the death of andreas munzer in 1996.. but i am not sure about today's rules!!.. but what i am sure of is that most of the top guys now are not as dry as the top guys of the 90s!!..

[Sherief Shalaby]

I'm not saying anything , I'm saying if you want to get technical then why stop at Jay?

yes i know you are not saying anything you are just repeating things you like as a parrot..

[WillGrant]

sure since the death of andreas munzer in 1996.. but i am not sure about today's rules!!.. but what i am sure of is that most of the top guys now are not as dry as the top guys of the 90s!!..

so you think this is because why ?

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes i know you are not saying anything you are just repeating things you like as a parrot..

hahahahaha says the Team Nasser member

[NarcissisticDeity]

sure since the death of andreas munzer in 1996.. but i am not sure about today's rules!!.. but what i am sure of is that most of the top guys now are not as dry as the top guys of the 90s!!..

Didn't stop Nasser in 96 

[Sherief Shalaby]

hahahahaha says the Team Nasser member

nasser agrees with me 

[garebear]

How about Earl Warren in '54?

Eisenhower liked his calves, and Warren had really brought his biceps up that year, so it was only natural that he get appointed to the Supreme Court (of muscles).

[NarcissisticDeity]

nasser agrees with me 

of course he does he's just as delusional as you , he still thinks he placed in 96 

[~UN_$ung~]

**exhales**


for every selective picture you can produce of a specific pose (from the final, where EVERYONE agreed jay improved, and phil diminished)


i can produce the same photo from the finals or prejudging where jay was winning easily winning the shot


some of you really have much to learn about how bodybuildig is judged........believe it or not, its not judged on whose physique is "prettier" or whose physique you would rather have

I'm willing to bet that if asked, Dorian , Haney, and Ronnie (hell, even Arnold) would not say Jay won that night.

dorians analysis was that jay was the clear winner

i dont know what haney would have said, but it would probably be phil

Ronnie ALWAYS picks other black competitors to win (whether they deserved it or not) he has always been racist in that regard

arnold could give a flying fuck about bodybuilding, his only association with the sport is when he sells his name-rights to jim lorimer once a year in exchange for a few million dollars...........he couldnt even be bothered to make an appearance in what is almost CERTAINLY joe weiders last olympia.......even though it would only require a 15 minute ride in one of his leer jets