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So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« on: October 03, 2010, 12:44:33 PM »
I was watching college football at my friends house last night and his brother made a funny remark about the "One Nation Rally". I was curious to see how many people showed up. I did a quick google search. Apparently, there was not a single link I could locate that had an estimate of the amount of attendees. In fact, the only links that I saw covering the rally besides a handfull of blogs were ( and I am not joking) Al Jazeera, USAToday, The New York Times and Msnbc. Quite a bunch-- and not even MSNBC even attempted to speculate on the size of the crowd. The best guesstimate I came across was "Ten's of thousands". The rest said thousands, or made no mention of the numbers (or said there were 400 groups represented). However, Schultz tried his best to turn what was an embarrassing assortment of freaks, thugs, con men, union members and race hustlers into an all encompassing movement that was representative of American society. This fucking moron and his braindead supporters  misreferenced the date of the Beck rally (the 28th, not the 29th is when it occurred) and claimed that the "one nation rally" had more attendees based on a satellite photograph that has yet to be released and that nobody besides Schultz has seen. Schultz was technically right though. Since there was no rally on August 29th, the one nation rally held yesterday was probably a slight increase in size over the coalition of homeless people and pigeons that normally occupy the space that was captured in the ever elusive (and fictional) satellite photo.

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2010, 12:49:49 PM »
who? ???

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2010, 12:55:55 PM »
Comparison pics. First one is Schultz's rally and the second is Beck's. They're both douche bags but Schultz got owned here.

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2010, 02:10:34 PM »
wait, is this the same rally that colbert and stewart did?  If so that pic posted by BF is pure bullshit.  Or was this a different rally?

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2010, 02:23:40 PM »
Look at the tapes and photos - they are a bunch of communist slobs, pigs, parasites, leeches, locusts, and bums. 

These filthy do nothings desecrated the WW2 monument and a perfect example of what the left in this country respresent - a bunch of vile, parasitic, undignified, classless, dirty, roitten animals begging for more socialism. 

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2010, 02:32:46 PM »
Look at the tapes and photos - they are a bunch of communist slobs, pigs, parasites, leeches, locusts, and bums. 

These filthy do nothings desecrated the WW2 monument and a perfect example of what the left in this country respresent - a bunch of vile, parasitic, undignified, classless, dirty, roitten animals begging for more socialism. 
you have issues.  meds... get some... please, before we see you committing 15 seconds of glory on national tv lol...

serious question, how many keyboards do you go through per week?

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2010, 02:34:38 PM »
wait, is this the same rally that colbert and stewart did?  If so that pic posted by BF is pure bullshit.  Or was this a different rally?

That photo is from Huffington Post so if you feel like accusing them of posting bullshit pics then you might want to head over there and call your Chavez-worshiping comrades out.  ::)

Speaking of medication needs, people who run half a dozen gimmick accounts are in no position to talk. All your posts are filled with insecure nerd rage.

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2010, 02:38:20 PM »
you have issues.  meds... get some... please, before we see you committing 15 seconds of glory on national tv lol...

serious question, how many keyboards do you go through per week?

Did you even watch the vi I posted of what these low rent communists, socialists, do-nothings, slobs, pigs, punks, pussies, pannzies et al did to the ww2 monument?

Congrats Hugo - that is your crew - have fun with them.  FOOL!

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2010, 02:41:01 PM »
Did you even watch the vi I posted of what these low rent communists, socialists, do-nothings, slobs, pigs, punks, pussies, pannzies et al did to the ww2 monument?

Congrats Hugo - that is your crew - have fun with them.  FOOL!

Where's the video? Did that commie homo Hugo delete it?

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2010, 02:42:46 PM »
This is your kindred spirit Hugo - now fuck off with your self rightous trash and garbage about the tea party people.  

These left wing vermin are scum of the eart and no different than IED's on the taxpayer with their crap.  


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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2010, 02:45:01 PM »
This is your kindred spirit Hugo - now fuck off with your self rightous trash and garbage about the tea party people.  

These left wing vermin are scum of the eart and no different than IED's on the taxpayer with their crap.  



They'll probably tell you that WWII was America's fault.

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2010, 02:47:22 PM »
I expect no less from these vermin.  I would have every single one of those loafers and leeches on work farms if it were up to me. 

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2010, 02:49:12 PM »
I expect no less from these vermin.  I would have every single one of those loafers and leeches on work farms if it were up to me. 

They should give these people an island to live out their little Utopian fantasies, cut them off from the rest of the world and then come back a year later so that they can see the place in ruins.

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2010, 02:52:26 PM »
They should give these people an island to live out their little Utopian fantasies, cut them off from the rest of the world and then come back a year later so that they can see the place in ruins.

The U.S. Park Service should have closed off the entire area and not let anyone left the area until they picked up the trash and garbage they left. 

I live amongst these freaking anmials in the bronx and its bad enough they destroy their own homes and nabes, but to trash the capital and WW2 monument  Disgusting. 

These pigs and leeches belong in the Bronx Zoo, or better yet, Fresh Kills in Staten Island. 

Disgusting behavior by these groups, as usual, but very predictiable.   

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2010, 02:55:15 PM »
These filthy do nothings desecrated the WW2 monument

during this glen beck rally, there were college kids standing on the wwii monument for a better view.  i have the pic somewhere, someone posted it on getbig.

you can't control what idiots do.

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2010, 02:56:56 PM »
during this glen beck rally, there were college kids standing on the wwii monument for a better view.  i have the pic somewhere, someone posted it on getbig.

you can't control what idiots do.

 ::)  ::)

As if that equates to leaving the place trashed?   

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2010, 02:57:43 PM »
during this glen beck rally, there were college kids standing on the wwii monument for a better view.  i have the pic somewhere, someone posted it on getbig.

you can't control what idiots do.

Standing on something to get a better view and trashing it are two different things. Standing on isn't exactly respectful but trashing it is in a league of its own when it comes to disrespect.

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2010, 03:00:39 PM »
After seeing the professionally made signs for the upteenth time, I love hoe the far left keep saying that the ta party people are nothing but a corporate front. 

Unreal when you consider the unions and other far left groups paid for these peoples' lunches, bus fare, signs, etc. 

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2010, 03:01:25 PM »
Did you even watch the vi I posted of what these low rent communists, socialists, do-nothings, slobs, pigs, punks, pussies, pannzies et al did to the ww2 monument?

Congrats Hugo - that is your crew - have fun with them.  FOOL!
go fuck yourself you lousy noob quido.  I didn't say jack.  I just asked if it was the same fucking rally.  take a step back spazmo.

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2010, 03:07:07 PM »
Ed Schultz, you're no Glenn Beck: Why "One America" rally just didn't measure up
Salon's War Room ^ | October 3, 2010 | Steve Kornacki, News Editor





The hope of the organizers of Saturday's "One America" rally in Washington was that a big turnout -- something on par with the crowd Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin attracted at the end of August -- would alter the media's midterm campaign narrative, which to date has emphasized the energy of the Republican base and the likelihood of sizable GOP gains in November.

And, to the organizers' credit, the turnout, to the extent it could really be measured, seemed impressive enough. But while we might want to take this as proof that the "enthusiasm gap" is vanishing and that the left is suddenly mobilized in a way that will save Democrats in November, the reality is that Saturday's rally was not an election-altering event.

For one thing, the number of people who showed up is pretty much meaningless. Surely, we've learned by now that the size of crowds at political rallies can be, and often is, a woefully misleading indicator of mass opinion. Remember when Ralph Nader was drawing 15,000 paying attendees to his "super-rallies" in 2000? And when he finished with 2.7 percent of the vote?

So the fact that a consortium of 400 or so progressive groups managed to turn out tens of thousands of people doesn't tell us anything significant about November. With the proper planning and resources (and the right weather), they should be able to do this in any political climate. Maybe it would have been news if all of their efforts had yielded an obviously paltry crowd, but whether the exact number of attendees was 75,000 or 175,000, it doesn't really matter. As Ed Schultz, who relentlessly promoted it on his radio and television shows, put it when Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin attracted a giant crowd to the Mall in August: "It ain't a big deal!"

He was right then, and anyone who makes the same claim now about "One America" is equally right. Of course, it's true that the Beck/Palin-fest on August 28 generated far more attention from the press, which regarded it as a cultural/political phenomenon and, in some cases, corroborating evidence for the "Democrats are screwed in November" narrative. So now that the left has produced a sizable crowd of its own, shouldn't "One America" be treated as equally significant?

Again, it's tempting to say yes, but the answer is no. The main reason for the Beck/Palin event's significance was Beck and Palin themselves. The rally was built around two media celebrities who are as odd and frightening as they are compelling. Their success perfectly represents this moment in American history, with severe economic anxiety and the election of a black president with a Muslim middle name prompting millions of conservatives to embrace an unusually intense and urgent brand of paranoia and hysteria.

And the siege mentality that was celebrated on August 28 has clearly played a defining role in American politics this year. The spirit that was on display is the same spirit that has swept Republican electorates in states like Utah, Nevada, Alaska, Colorado, Florida, Delaware, New York, to name a few, where fringe, Tea Party-friendly candidates have won nominations for major office this year. These Tea Party candidates, like Beck and Palin themselves, are tailor-made for this era (at least within the Republican Party). Their emergence may be the biggest story of the year.

Saturday's rally, by contrast, was a tribute to something that is hardly new to America or unique to this moment: the ability of unions and grassroots activist groups to generate a crowd. The closest thing to a Beck figure to take the stage was probably Schultz, whose MSNBC show generates a fraction of the audience of Beck's Fox program. Schultz is an interesting enough guy, but the rhetoric he and the other speakers spouted on Saturday was pretty much boiler-plate union rally rah-rah stuff. In this sense, the more relevant left-of-center extravaganza of 2010 is yet to come: Jon Stewart's "Rally to Restore Sanity" on October 30. Stewart, as a political force, is a far more of a wild card than any person or group represented on Saturday.

This isn't to say that an event like One America can never be significant. It's just that context is important. Case in point: the union-organized "Solidarity Day" march of 1981. Don't worry if you haven’t heard of it; it's largely been lost to history. But at the time, it served an important symbolic purpose.

The march was called by organized labor leaders who had just seen their own base defect to Ronald Reagan in the 1980 election. And in the early months of Reagan's presidency, he and the GOP seemed to make even more headway with blue-collar "Reagan Democrats": Voters who had never previously identified as such began calling themselves Republicans, and the fear was real that the white working-class -- a pillar of the Democratic coalition for decades -- was switching sides for good.

But the march came as the economy was beginning to slip into a recession, and as Reagan's popularity -- stratospheric when he first took office -- began to drop. The blue collar voters who had provided him his margin the year before were beginning to return to the Democratic fold. Thus, the Solidarity March was a significant event: the men and women who gathered represented a pivotal, election-defining bloc. They'd given Reagan the White House in '80, and they ended up giving the Democrats a banner year in the 1982 midterms.

But that kind of dynamic just doesn't exist right now. It's true that the media has put too much emphasis on the significance of Tea Party rallies and the Beck/Palin event, which reflect only the energy and psychology of the Republican Party base, and not the broader electorate. But it's also true that the Republican base is a whole lot more interesting to watch this year than the Democratic base.

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Steve Kornacki is Salon's news editor. Reach him by email at SKornacki@salon.com and follow him on Twitter @SteveKornacki


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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2010, 03:10:15 PM »
you guys are really flipping out over this huh?  kinda funny sorry... ;D  hey 3333, I bet that spaz you post all the time has a vid uploaded.....

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2010, 03:12:29 PM »
you guys are really flipping out over this huh?  kinda funny sorry... ;D  hey 3333, I bet that spaz you post all the time has a vid uploaded.....

Trashing the WW2 monument and arlington bridge is just a little too much for most sensuble people to take. 

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2010, 03:19:53 PM »
Trashing the WW2 monument and arlington bridge is just a little too much for most sensuble people to take. 
what?... where the fuck did I say it was ok to do something like that?  again, the only fucking thing I said in this thread was to ask if it was the same rally.  I laughed at you for going apeshit, but I haven't made any political statements in this thread.  You're just picking the first easy target and freaking out lol...  keep going, I'm laughing...  Knowing you guys, you're probably blowing it out of proportion anyway.  Either that or there's a good chance you had some of your own guys do it to blame the commies and stir shit.  That crap happens all the fucking time.

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2010, 03:23:19 PM »
what?... where the fuck did I say it was ok to do something like that?  again, the only fucking thing I said in this thread was to ask if it was the same rally.  I laughed at you for going apeshit, but I haven't made any political statements in this thread.  You're just picking the first easy target and freaking out lol...  keep going, I'm laughing...  Knowing you guys, you're probably blowing it out of proportion anyway.  Either that or there's a good chance you had some of your own guys do it to blame the commies and stir shit.  That crap happens all the fucking time.

When I saw the pigs at this rally it reminded me of the trash I see day in and day out in the Bronx who destroy everything and are akin to human locusts.

I'm sick of these vermin, thouroughly sick of all these lazy leeches with their fat hands out. 

 

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Re: So, how was that Ed Schultz rally?
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2010, 03:48:37 PM »
When I saw the pigs at this rally it reminded me of the trash I see day in and day out in the Bronx who destroy everything and are akin to human locusts.

I'm sick of these vermin, thouroughly sick of all these lazy leeches with their fat hands out.  

 
Ok, I have to ask...  If you were hitler reborn in our time what would.....?

By chance did you ever try your hand at art? lol...