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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2010, 07:52:25 AM »

i think we would place somewhere similar to Rockel...top 6 for sure.

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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2010, 07:54:01 AM »
He should win....
Different level of class
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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2010, 08:00:13 AM »
He should have won, can't be entirely sure given the strange judging criteria though...Just like he should have won against the mess that was Dorian.

Great poser.

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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2010, 08:00:47 AM »


Very good posing + COMPLETE physique, not GH gut. He should beat Gutler!
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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2010, 08:04:47 AM »
Immediate disqualification!

waist too small and tight
no looseness in lower back
no "bloated" gut
too much proportion & far too symmetrical
has big arms AND well developed calves
too much conditioning, tight skin & vascularity
upper body and lower body not only proportionate, but balanced

how much we've progressed, cant believe they let guys like this onstage at the O in the 80's & 90's... ::)

(edit: posing is far too fluid)

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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2010, 08:05:48 AM »
 ::)

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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2010, 08:07:14 AM »
::)

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Haha. Let's face it dude, Saudi Arabia sucks (especially for women). :P
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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2010, 08:07:59 AM »
The fact that the abortion that is cutler has 4 O's and Shawn has zero is beyond a joke.
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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2010, 08:10:03 AM »
I can't understand it's really disappointing to see how far bodybuilding has regressed
and it just keeps getting worse. Nearly all the top 10 at the mr o this year has stomach distension
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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2010, 08:41:45 AM »
you nailed it!
Immediate disqualification!

waist too small and tight
no looseness in lower back
no "bloated" gut
too much proportion & far too symmetrical
has big arms AND well developed calves
too much conditioning, tight skin & vascularity
upper body and lower body not only proportionate, but balanced

how much we've progressed, cant believe they let guys like this onstage at the O in the 80's & 90's... ::)

(edit: posing is far too fluid)

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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2010, 08:45:14 AM »
Now that's what a Mr. O should look like!
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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2010, 02:23:25 PM »
Immediate disqualification!

waist too small and tight
no looseness in lower back
no "bloated" gut
too much proportion & far too symmetrical
has big arms AND well developed calves
too much conditioning, tight skin & vascularity
upper body and lower body not only proportionate, but balanced

how much we've progressed, cant believe they let guys like this onstage at the O in the 80's & 90's... ::)

(edit: posing is far too fluid)


Lol...

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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2010, 02:25:45 PM »
Sell 1990's pics for $20.

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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2010, 02:58:40 PM »
I can't understand it's really disappointing to see how far bodybuilding has regressed
and it just keeps getting worse. Nearly all the top 10 at the mr o this year has stomach distension

Rockel had some bad distention Saturday night at the Olympia.  And he is suppose to be the new model of balance and symmetry.  Shawn Ray would destroy him on stage.  The human body is the same as it's always been, today's guys can't come in 30 lbs heavier than the guys in the '90s and expect it to be in all the right places, half of it gets carried in the gut.

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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2010, 03:02:56 PM »
Rockel had some bad distention Saturday night at the Olympia.  And he is suppose to be the new model of balance and symmetry.  Shawn Ray would destroy him on stage.  The human body is the same as it's always been, today's guys can't come in 30 lbs heavier than the guys in the '90s and expect it to be in all the right places, half of it gets carried in the gut.

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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2010, 03:06:38 PM »
In the 90's, the perfect balance was struck between, size, density, and aesthetics. Can any pro of today do a legitamite vacuum pose?

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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2010, 04:39:05 PM »
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Immediate disqualification!

waist too small and tight
no looseness in lower back
no "bloated" gut
too much proportion & far too symmetrical
has big arms AND well developed calves
too much conditioning, tight skin & vascularity
upper body and lower body not only proportionate, but balanced

how much we've progressed, cant believe they let guys like this onstage at the O in the 80's & 90's... ::)

(edit: posing is far too fluid)

Haha, I'm impressed. I didn't know even know they had a judging criteria!

You know, instead of finding the 'big-man-on-campus' they should be findng the 'best-man-on-campus'.

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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2010, 04:44:26 PM »
Shawn about the 94 olympia:

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The worst moment was in 1994, when I lost the Mr. Olympia contest. That was even harder to deal with than failing the drug test at the Arnold Classic in 1990 because I won that show. I felt like a winner there, everybody who saw it felt that. At the Mr. Olympia contest, in 1992 I was 4th, in 1993 I was 3rd. In 1994, to wind up second in a contest that I felt I had won, when Dorian had torn his bicep, came in with a bloated stomach, his color was off, and it was clear he was visibly not at his best from 1993. A lot of people came to my room, and told me I looked the best, that I was going to win. The photographers were setting up photo shoot for me. Joe Weider gave me his blessing - he thought that I nailed it. Everybody who knew me knew that I had nailed this show. I used the routine that I turned pro with in 1987, and I nailed that too. I felt that this was going to be the night.
And when they announced Dorian in first, I felt that at that point and time, there was nothing that I could have changed, nothing I would have done differently, and nothing more that I could do. This was the best that I had with my physique, and I was dazed and confused because I didn't know what else I could do with my body? I didn't want to change anything - I was happy. And when I placed second, it was the worst thing. I would have been happier if I had placed 6th or 7th. One person stopped me from my destiny. One person away from realizing a dream since I had in high school. I was 10 years removed from high school, it was two weeks after my 10 years reunion, and when that happened, it took a lot out of me. I retired that night.



Shawn right after the 1994 Mr Olympia

Flex magazine January 1995 Shawn Ray

Dorian was a bigger version of what he's been. I'm not a fan in the sense that his physique is something I aspire to attain. Dorian is in his own class and in his own little world. For that reason, there's nobody they can compare like-to-like with Dorian. They can only bring forward a different package.

( 1994 Mr Olympia ) Tonight I feel that I got what I deserved. With a beaming smile , Shawn concluded: " This is the first time in three years I haven't ' retired ' the night of the show and got drunk. "


Truth is he was lucky to beat Kevin for second place and only did so by a single point.

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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2010, 05:04:27 PM »
Shawn right after the 1994 Mr Olympia

Flex magazine January 1995 Shawn Ray

Dorian was a bigger version of what he's been. I'm not a fan in the sense that his physique is something I aspire to attain. Dorian is in his own class and in his own little world. For that reason, there's nobody they can compare like-to-like with Dorian. They can only bring forward a different package.

( 1994 Mr Olympia ) Tonight I feel that I got what I deserved. With a beaming smile , Shawn concluded: " This is the first time in three years I haven't ' retired ' the night of the show and got drunk. "
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Truth is he was lucky to beat Kevin for second place and only did so by a single point.

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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2010, 10:50:57 PM »
its called a weider contract. Back then he had one, he couldnt talk shit. 
yeah whatever. he couldnt touch yates with a step ladder

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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2010, 11:03:26 PM »
Shawn about the 94 olympia:

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The worst moment was in 1994, when I lost the Mr. Olympia contest. That was even harder to deal with than failing the drug test at the Arnold Classic in 1990 because I won that show. I felt like a winner there, everybody who saw it felt that. At the Mr. Olympia contest, in 1992 I was 4th, in 1993 I was 3rd. In 1994, to wind up second in a contest that I felt I had won, when Dorian had torn his bicep, came in with a bloated stomach, his color was off, and it was clear he was visibly not at his best from 1993. A lot of people came to my room, and told me I looked the best, that I was going to win. The photographers were setting up photo shoot for me. Joe Weider gave me his blessing - he thought that I nailed it. Everybody who knew me knew that I had nailed this show. I used the routine that I turned pro with in 1987, and I nailed that too. I felt that this was going to be the night.
And when they announced Dorian in first, I felt that at that point and time, there was nothing that I could have changed, nothing I would have done differently, and nothing more that I could do. This was the best that I had with my physique, and I was dazed and confused because I didn't know what else I could do with my body? I didn't want to change anything - I was happy. And when I placed second, it was the worst thing. I would have been happier if I had placed 6th or 7th. One person stopped me from my destiny. One person away from realizing a dream since I had in high school. I was 10 years removed from high school, it was two weeks after my 10 years reunion, and when that happened, it took a lot out of me. I retired that night.


Here is a good "What If?", what if Flex Wheeler hadn't broken his neck in 1994, where would Shawn or he have placed in the 1994 Mr. O?

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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2010, 01:50:11 AM »
its called a weider contract. Back then he had one, he couldnt talk shit. 

Obviously you never picked up a magazine from back then because that's all Shawn did was talk shit , in fact he said after Dorian tore his bicep that he was done and he had a couple of years left in him for guest posing , Shawn mentioned at the athletes meeting that year that he hoped his physique was being judged and not his comments

and even entertaining he didn't say anything out of ' fear ' that doesn't change anything , the fact is he was lucky to beat Kevin Levrone in 94 and only did so by 1 point , he was in fact trailing Kevin after the prejudging so either way you're sucked

Shawn wasn't good enough to beat Dorian , Haney or Ronnie , he claimed Ronnie didn't deserve the Olympia in 98 , Shawn says a lot of things a lot which fly in the face of reality , Shawn couldn't accept the fact he simply wasn't good enough.

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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2010, 01:51:16 AM »
Here is a good "What If?", what if Flex Wheeler hadn't broken his neck in 1994, where would Shawn or he have placed in the 1994 Mr. O?

If Flex was on like 93 he probably would have beaten Dorian , nevermind Shawn

Shawn isn't in Flex's league or Dorians.

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Re: How would this guy do at the 2010 Olympia?
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2010, 02:24:58 AM »
Shawn right after the 1994 Mr Olympia

Flex magazine January 1995 Shawn Ray

Dorian was a bigger version of what he's been. I'm not a fan in the sense that his physique is something I aspire to attain. Dorian is in his own class and in his own little world. For that reason, there's nobody they can compare like-to-like with Dorian. They can only bring forward a different package.

( 1994 Mr Olympia ) Tonight I feel that I got what I deserved. With a beaming smile , Shawn concluded: " This is the first time in three years I haven't ' retired ' the night of the show and got drunk. "



Truth is he was lucky to beat Kevin for second place and only did so by a single point.


Truth is that Dorian was an abomination that derailed the whole sport to the extent that it still hasn't recovered.

Kevin and Shawn should have both finished above him.
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