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[Croatch]

I am young and considering to do this dumb thing too one day

Sure.  Try it out.  You'll see how you put on size instantly, no extra work required.
It makes me laugh, watching grown men being unable to make substantial gains, despite their drug habit.
If you're better than the other guy, but needed drugs to be better...are you really?
By taking nothing, it alleviates that problem.  You know for sure you crush people, when you do.

[affeman]

I want to try it but at the same time I would feel like shit knowing I did nothing to get there.. Then again at the same time, why the fuck should I stay natural if I just wanna look better, fast..? hmmm

You won't look better, that's the point. You're gonna get stretch marks, lose even mor hair, bad skin and a bloated face.

For 99 % of the population you're gonna look much much worse than before.

[The Showstoppa]

I want to try it but at the same time I would feel like shit knowing I did nothing to get there.. Then again at the same time, why the fuck should I stay natural if I just wanna look better, fast..? hmmm

You won't make any gains if you "did nothing."  Just get bloated, etc...  you still have to bust your ass if you want to make serious gains, regardless if you are on or not.  I've known plenty of guys who workouts were half-assed, who were on, and still looked like shit.

[The Showstoppa]

I dont halfass workouts really i have been pretty consistant the last couple months so I am gonna keep it going

If you do go on and continue that, you will make some solid gains. 

[Croatch]

I want to try it but at the same time I would feel like shit knowing I did nothing to get there.. Then again at the same time, why the fuck should I stay natural if I just wanna look better, fast..? hmmm

I'll ask you one question:
For just one full year, have you eaten a few pounds of chicken every day, got in 5 meals without missing any?
If not, you haven't tapped your natural potential.  Try eating 3lbs of chicken per day, plus a dozen egg whites, then a myoplex.
I'd be sure...for starters, most or you wouldn't stick to that for a year, then I'd say you'll put on 20lbs easily in that time, if you did so.
Most can't though, so they just take magic pills.  It's understandable.  Natural bbing isn't for everyone.

I dont halfass workouts really i have been pretty consistant the last couple months so I am gonna keep it going

Working out is about about 20% of your gains, it's all diet and 5% creabloat.

[clownbaby]

I haven't read this thread, but i really like "clowns shall be slaves in hell" and i shall be using it a conversational piece in the near future.

[Croatch]

I haven't read this thread, but i really like "clowns shall be slaves in hell" and i shall be using it a conversational piece in the near future.

Said "clownbaby"...ahah

[TacoBell]

I'll ask you one question:
For just one full year, have you eaten a few pounds of chicken every day, got in 5 meals without missing any?
If not, you haven't tapped your natural potential.  Try eating 3lbs of chicken per day, plus a dozen egg whites, then a myoplex.
I'd be sure...for starters, most or you wouldn't stick to that for a year, then I'd say you'll put on 20lbs easily in that time, if you did so.
Most can't though, so they just take magic pills.  It's understandable.  Natural bbing isn't for everyone.Working out is about about 20% of your gains, it's all diet and 5% creabloat.

Hahaha, croatch if anyone has done all this shit, they need to get a life.

[johnnynoname]

croatch,

I'll let you know that I don't do steroids also....


....not cuz i'm "morally" opposed- i'm just broke and everyone in my area sells bunk gear

[Croatch]

How many grams of protein a day do you think is best Croatch?

It's where your getting it that is most important, but as most state 1.5x or 2x your body weight.
150lbs=300g
50g x 6 meals
Equates to just 8oz per meal.
A decent sized breast.

croatch,

I'll let you know that I don't do steroids also....


....not cuz i'm "morally" opposed- i'm just broke and everyone in my area sells bunk gear

There is no morality issue here.  I'm the last to deem roids "immoral", that would be ridiculous.  I just point out the tools that use them and how simple it is, yet so many still fail with them.

[johnnynoname]

There is no morality issue here.  I'm the last to deem roids "immoral", that would be ridiculous.  I just point out the tools that use them and how simple it is, yet so many still fail with them.

okay- i thought you were one of those types who believed in drugs being "morally wrong"...my mistake

[Croatch]

Or just alot of shakes? XD:D

No, that's the worst way to go.
If it was living, eat it.  This works best.  You absorb far more from a chicken breast, than a shake...especially whey.
Before bed, may casein, but food works best.
Eggs, meat, chicken, tuna.

[Croatch]

okay- i thought you were one of those types who believed in drugs being "morally wrong"...my mistake

Certainly not.  That's worse than being a religious asshole.

[Croatch]

So far today I've had about 150grams of protein, I am going to make some eggs now 

A dozen whites, 3 yolks...my new meal.

[TacoBell]

Hahahaha you put way too much time and energy into bodybuilding.

[lesaucer]

Croatch, everybody is on gear. seriously.

[Croatch]

Hahahaha you put way too much time and energy into bodybuilding.

Said the guy who wonders why he can never attain anything solid in a gym.
We know, everyone has too much free time on their hands, but you.
You remind me of a buddy I have.  Whenever he fails to be as good at something, he'll make excuse after excuse.

Remember, in life...we have LOTS of time.  It doesn't take too much time to take in good calories.  This also brings me back to what I always say, natural bodybuilding isn't for everyone.  Just take some gear and pretend you built a physique yourself.

[TacoBell]

Said the guy who wonders why he can never attain anything solid in a gym.
We know, everyone has too much free time on their hands, but you.
You remind me of a buddy I have.  Whenever he fails to be as good at something, he'll make excuse after excuse.

Remember, in life...we have LOTS of time.  It doesn't take too much time to take in good calories.  This also brings me back to what I always say, natural bodybuilding isn't for everyone.  Just take some gear and pretend you built a physique yourself.

Haha Craotch are you forgetting who I am?

[cyp200la]

steroids failed croatch

[Croatch]

Haha Craotch are you forgetting who I am?

Should I know you.  Just state your shit and move on.

[TacoBell]

Should I know you.  Just state your shit and move on.

We've talked about this plenty of times but that's ok.  See the problem is croatch, really, you just look like an average guy who works out and has some muscle.  If I saw you on the street it wouldnt occur to me that you obsess about yourself (diet/training etc) to the extent you do.  Not everyone responds to cycles as you have claimed to, where its do nothing and grow.  But steroids are absolutely necessary to achieve a 'superhuman' physique.  So while I understand and agree that juicers who dont respond well shouldnt put themselves through so much because it just 'isnt happening' (run a few cycles, if you dont see dramatic changes, then dont waste your time and money).  But again, your physique, for those who do respond well, would be settling.  For those who respond well, steroids are the key to unlocking a physique unattainable by the masses.  And you dont have that physique, nor anything close to it.  

[ThaRealist]

This is ridiculous....Croatch has a huge chip on his shoulder for juicers and anyone he "assumes" juices....Give it a fuckin break already

[lesaucer]

We've talked about this plenty of times but that's ok.  See the problem is croatch, really, you just look like an average guy who works out and has some muscle.  If I saw you on the street it wouldnt occur to me that you obsess about yourself (diet/training etc) to the extent you do.  Not everyone responds to cycles as you have claimed to, where its do nothing and grow.  But steroids are absolutely necessary to achieve a 'superhuman' physique.  So while I understand and agree that juicers who dont respond well shouldnt put themselves through so much because it just 'isnt happening' (run a few cycles, if you dont see dramatic changes, then dont waste your time and money).  But again, your physique, for those who do respond well, would be settling.  For those who respond well, steroids are the key to unlocking a physique unattainable by the masses.  And you dont have that physique, nor anything close to it.  

BOOOOM

[Coach is Back!]

Wannabe...I'd view you as exactly that Chief.  Do you even train when you're not on your elaborate drug cycle?
Another steroid "hero" afraid to see how he'd do alone, no needles or pills.
Accurate tale there.

Accurate? LMAO.

1. I've never on an "elaborate" drug cycle.

2. I haven't taken anything in 3 years.

3. I guaranty I train harder and more than likely heavier than you NOW at 48, and yes I train just fine without it.

4. When I DO go back on it will be for health purposes ONLY since I have no desire to train like a "bodybuilder" let alone compete.

Your judging people and thinking a person doesn't need to train hard just because they're on gear makes you one of the most naive people I've ever seen on this board.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Croatch are you still trying to be an actor?