Thoughts?

[ONDEZNTS]

Everywhere i read says BD and QV went out of business but a guy I know gets a ton of this and from personal experience it is good. What are your thoughts. Also i picked up this growth kit, I have never done gh before. Anyone familiar with this brand. Thought?

[ONDEZNTS]

all the production dates are from 2008 and expire in 2012

[MMA animal]

same here, i see tons of BD floating around, but not sure if they are legit

[4thAD]

BD and QV are still around, but the problem is they are fakes. I am pretty sure they are being manufactured by the China Man.

[ONDEZNTS]

It is indeed coming out of china. I agree it may not be the "original" BD or QV but works pretty good so far. Have you seen that growth before?

[4thAD]

No I haven't. Looks to possibly be IP haha, who is also known as the China Man. Maker of QV and BD.

[delta9mda]

ip prop did me wrong. that shit hurt so much.

[tstmaniac]

I would never take IP's injects...their 45mg oral winstrols were awesome

[ONDEZNTS]

I have IP PCT stuff and clen. Havent tried it yet. Ill keep you posted though. As far as IP injects the only thing I have is that growth which again I havent tried. I love this BD prop. Its 200mg per ml and has little to no bite. I have been running it with tren for the first 6 weeks noe I just started adding masteron on top of it. So far GOOD results. Whoever this china man is must have a good customer in my area cause the streets are flooded with it.

[Tats]

I have ran BD & QV and the quality of the manufacturing seems to be done by a 5 year old. You would go and pop the top off and the entire crimped cover would come with it. That was the last time I ever touched this BD or QV line. Much better quality out there for better prices. HG is the only way to go.

[ONDEZNTS]

lol I have also torn part of a top off but never the whole thing. i have yet to find any hg stuff around my area, so till I do this stuff I have works so why not use it. I always read on Here HG is the best, and I dont disagree but I have been into gear for several years and have yet to find it so UG it is for now. I know alot of people on here have that same opinion. HG stuff maybe readily available to the senior guys in our sport but the newbies and middle men its not. I see no problems using a GOOD ug lab.

[4thAD]

lol I have also torn part of a top off but never the whole thing. i have yet to find any hg stuff around my area, so till I do this stuff I have works so why not use it. I always read on Here HG is the best, and I dont disagree but I have been into gear for several years and have yet to find it so UG it is for now. I know alot of people on here have that same opinion. HG stuff maybe readily available to the senior guys in our sport but the newbies and middle men its not. I see no problems using a GOOD ug lab.

HG gear is available to anyone and everyone! All you need is a computer, and a mail box.

[Tats]

lol I have also torn part of a top off but never the whole thing. i have yet to find any hg stuff around my area, so till I do this stuff I have works so why not use it. I always read on Here HG is the best, and I dont disagree but I have been into gear for several years and have yet to find it so UG it is for now. I know alot of people on here have that same opinion. HG stuff maybe readily available to the senior guys in our sport but the newbies and middle men its not. I see no problems using a GOOD ug lab.

Your right and I said the same thing until I seen shitty manufacturing practices from BD & QV. Not all UG labs are bad but these two and on the bottom on the barrel. I'm no vet by anymeans and I found HG products pretty easy. As 4thAD said "alls you need is a computer and a mail box." Check out some open source boards and you will find everything you need and more. Always use caution, do your research and be safe.

[jerseymuscles113]

hg is available to anyone who does a little research my first cycle was hg so was everyone after that...the only ug i've used is jinan tren...they're more of a hybrid then an ugl...Defi the best for tren...all It takes is j little patience and research and you can use top quality products every time

[Overload]

Those are definitely IP products.

Hit or miss.

Take your chances.

[MMA animal]

true story here, its been 10 weeks, a close friend of mine has taken 6 bottles of BD shit in his 10 week cycle plus androl and just finished his cycle, he only gained 8 pounds, obviously this stuff is not good, i mean 6 bottles, test, tren, eq, vinnie, androl, 5 ccs a week , u figured he gained 25 pounds of fat, muscle, and water