1996 German Grand Prix Kevin Levrone

[MuscleMcMannus]

The mid 1990's were awesome.  The dryness and density these guys attained was awesome.  No all the pros look like water weanies.  It's fucking sad.  Ronnie, Jay, etc. have NEVER looked as dry as Dorian in his prime.  Dorian was fucking awesome in the department.

[Nirvana]

Nasser fan or not you gotta admit he was unreal there

[blackpele]

When I first watched the video I wanted to see Dorian, but then when the video started and saw Kevin I was in shock, I don't know if it was the lightning or what but his shape and size was unreal.

And let's be realistic Phil would have stand a chance near Kevin.

[jon cole]

MID 90'SSS = GOLDEN ERA OF BBING...

[Sherief Shalaby]

nasser = most complete lower body in the 90s!!..

[NarcissisticDeity]

nasser = most complete lower body in the 90s!!..

lmao Nasser Mr Olympia from the waist down

[Lion666]

Further proof that bodybuildng has not progressed since the 90s  

As for Dorian looking like "shit" . . .

wow

wow
made some posts while back makin mention never really fan of dorian at all but started to respect what he did after time on this board.    now even more so after seein that vid.  he really was one of top 3 all time.  even his routine was cool, kept it strong matched the build.  which i cant help but to wonder with all the chatter of oil (no shade toward kev bc he is in title)out there maybe its no wonder with dorian.  he looks brick (minus the bi tear which of course hurt him ) and he made the best with what he had, being everything.  no one else was carrying that muscle like that.
re dorian
training is everything, look at the best, ron dor arn lee in mind right away.theres no faking it whatsoever when you stand on stage, theres "homework" to be done if not, i guess theres ways of cheatin a lil,then again one edge dif from another so.. you get my point.
a lot of credit to jay while he may not be recognized as a plate slinger, although he really does move soem hvyweight at times, he did train for sustained time over the years with out injury. during a time when everyone was chasin perhaps the biggest, ronnie.  such as kevlev, slingin heavy plate benchs, presses, those 100 inyahface.  heath is themodernday kevlev. maybe dif if he wins an o.  or is there by chance a dark horse, similar to ronnies beginning, that will have been walking off the stage when winners were anounced, someone below hype radar, ovrlookd, from no where. at the time wasnt dorian and kev battling ronnie was no where near...
same thing could happen today.      

[JP_RC]

Further proof that bodybuildng has not progressed since the 90s  

As for Dorian looking like "shit" . . .

Torn bicep, horrible arms, weird quad shape, bloated gut..............its not something I'd say looks great.

He did have 3 great things about his physique though: muscle size advantage, superb conditioning and great balance. Which is why he won everytime and dominated, that's what set him apart from the rest.......but I still think that's not a good physique.

[JP_RC]

 

Great pic.

[Jaime]

Dorian looking like shit as per normal and getting dominated from the front by Nasser, Kev, Ronnie, actually everyone else in the video.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Torn bicep, horrible arms, weird quad shape, bloated gut..............its not something I'd say looks great.

He did have 3 great things about his physique though: muscle size advantage, superb conditioning and great balance. Which is why he won everytime and dominated, that's what set him apart from the rest.......but I still think that's not a good physique.

other than his biceps his arms were fine in fact his triceps were awesome and his forearms were great weird quad shape?  listening to Hulkster to long?

he dominated everyone with a not so good physique , makes sense to me 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian looking like shit as per normal and getting dominated from the front by Nasser, Kev, Ronnie, actually everyone else in the video.

Dorian's front latspread and ab-thigh kill anyone's in that contest with ease , Nasser come close in the ab-thigh but he's the only one

[BIG_STI]

Coleman and Yates doing the exact same pose at the exact same distance:

holy shit ronnie is getting destroyed

[JP_RC]

other than his biceps his arms were fine in fact his triceps were awesome and his forearms were great weird quad shape?  listening to Hulkster to long?

he dominated everyone with a not so good physique , makes sense to me 

other than his biceps his arms were fine in fact his triceps were awesome and his forearms were great weird quad shape?   listening to Hulkster to long?

His arms were ok at best, but compare them with the arms of bodybuilders known for having great arms (Ronnie, Priest, Heath, even Arnold and Sergio), his arms were not good at all, including both biceps and triceps. Forearms were ok, in good proportion with his upper arms, but that's it.
His vastus lateralis muscle was never totally developed, at least it had poor separation with the rest of the quad muscles. That's what I meant with weird shape, again compare it to others.

he dominated everyone with a not so good physique , makes sense to me  

Yes it makes sense. I admit he was dominant and beat everyone without question as far as judging criteria is concerned. But I personally disliked his physique, it didn't look good to my eyes. I have the same opinion about Cutler and a post 2001 Ronnie.

Putting judging criteria aside, do you think Dorian's physique is good? Do you actually see it as a physique to strive for?
If you see a pic of Arnold or Flex, wouldn't you say that looks 100x better?

See my point?

[Jaime]

Dorian's front latspread and ab-thigh kill anyone's in that contest with ease , Nasser come close in the ab-thigh but he's the only one

Dorian's front latspread consists of great lat flare. Probably the best, that's it though, everything else is subpar.

His ab thigh was good, a lot of cuts in his waist, but his legs lacked cuts. Nasser's was better imo.

[Royal Lion]

Where would either of these versions of KL have placed in this year's Mr. O?? 

Btw, to say Dorian had subpar Tris or forearms is ludicrous.  His side-tri is arguably the best ever imo.

[NarcissisticDeity]

His arms were ok at best, but compare them with the arms of bodybuilders known for having great arms (Ronnie, Priest, Heath, even Arnold and Sergio), his arms were not good at all, including both biceps and triceps. Forearms were ok, in good proportion with his upper arms, but that's it.
His vastus lateralis muscle was never totally developed, at least it had poor separation with the rest of the quad muscles. That's what I meant with weird shape, again compare it to others.

Yes it makes sense. I admit he was dominant and beat everyone without question as far as judging criteria is concerned. But I personally disliked his physique, it didn't look good to my eyes. I have the same opinion about Cutler and a post 2001 Ronnie.

Putting judging criteria aside, do you think Dorian's physique is good? Do you actually see it as a physique to strive for?
If you see a pic of Arnold or Flex, wouldn't you say that looks 100x better?

See my point?

His arms were ok at best, but compare them with the arms of bodybuilders known for having great arms (Ronnie, Priest, Heath, even Arnold and Sergio), his arms were not good at all, including both biceps and triceps. Forearms were ok, in good proportion with his upper arms, but that's it.
His vastus lateralis muscle was never totally developed, at least it had poor separation with the rest of the quad muscles. That's what I meant with weird shape, again compare it to others.

now compared his side triceps to any of the guys mentioned and Yates kills them all , that's how it works. his quads were just fine people trying to trump up imaginary flaws you have to look at the entire pose and Dorian again dominates the ab-thigh that's how it's done

Yes it makes sense. I admit he was dominant and beat everyone without question as far as judging criteria is concerned. But I personally disliked his physique, it didn't look good to my eyes. I have the same opinion about Cutler and a post 2001 Ronnie.

Putting judging criteria aside, do you think Dorian's physique is good? Do you actually see it as a physique to strive for?
If you see a pic of Arnold or Flex, wouldn't you say that looks 100x better?

See my point?

Dorian's physique at his best is good absolutely , would I want to look like that? NO and when I look at pics of Dorian in poses he looks 100X better than Arnold and Flex and the same can be said about them

[NarcissisticDeity]

Where would either of these versions of KL have placed in this year's Mr. O?? 

Btw, to say Dorian had subpar Tris or forearms is ludicrous.  His side-tri is arguably the best ever imo.

That's my point lots of guys have better arms , but how many touch him in the side triceps? next to no one , lots of guys have tiny waists and great v-taper how many touch Dorian in the front latspread? next to none , these guys keep harping on parts when the whole is what wins contests , how do all of those parts fit together? how are they in relation to one another?

Ronnie , Priest , Heath and Arnold can't touch Dorian in that pose despite their great arms , the one who comes the closest is Heath but as a whole he doesn't beat it.

[JP_RC]

Btw, to say Dorian had subpar Tris or forearms is ludicrous.  His side-tri is arguably the best ever imo.

His side-tri is amongst the best ever not because of his tricep, but because of how his whole physique looks in that pose, very thick, dense and dry.

If you compare his triceps (or overall arms) with guys that actually had great arms, you would see a difference.

[JP_RC]

That's my point lots of guys have better arms , but how many touch him in the side triceps? next to no one , lots of guys have tiny waists and great v-taper how many touch Dorian in the front latspread? next to none , these guys keep harping on parts when the whole is what wins contests , how do all of those parts fit together? how are they in relation to one another?

Ronnie , Priest , Heath and Arnold can't touch Dorian in that pose despite their great arms , the one who comes the closest is Heath but as a whole he doesn't beat it.

I agree, never said anything different. All I said was guys like Priest, Dillet, Ronnie, Arnold, etc had better arms than Dorian and that his arms were not good.

I never said they should've beaten Dorian or Dorian shouldn't have won.

[Parker]

His side-tri is amongst the best ever not because of his tricep, but because of how his whole physique looks in that pose, very thick, dense and dry.

If you compare his triceps (or overall arms) with guys that actually had great arms, you would see a difference.

Paul Demayo beats Dorian in the side tricep pose, all day...

[JP_RC]

now compared his side triceps to any of the guys mentioned and Yates kills them all , that's how it works. his quads were just fine people trying to trump up imaginary flaws you have to look at the entire pose and Dorian again dominates the ab-thigh that's how it's done

Dorian's physique at his best is good absolutely , would I want to look like that? NO and when I look at pics of Dorian in poses he looks 100X better than Arnold and Flex and the same can be said about them

now compared his side triceps to any of the guys mentioned and Yates kills them all , that's how it works. his quads were just fine people trying to trump up imaginary flaws you have to look at the entire pose and Dorian again dominates the ab-thigh that's how it's done

Exactly, but his side tricep pose kills the rest because his overall physique is better as far as judging criteria, not because his triceps alone are something special. I never said he loses a side tricep pose by the way, all I said is his arms were poor.

If Dorian's quads were fine, then so were Ronnie's abs.  

Dorian's physique at his best is good absolutely , would I want to look like that? NO and when I look at pics of Dorian in poses he looks 100X better than Arnold and Flex and the same can be said about them

So putting judging criteria mentality aside, Dorian looks better than Arnold or Flex to you?

I've to disagree.

[io856]

Paul Demayo beats Dorian in the side tricep pose, all day...

I disagree...

balance, proportion, symettry, hardness

[NarcissisticDeity]

Paul Demayo beats Dorian in the side tricep pose, all day...

Maybe in the triceps but as a whole nope

[NarcissisticDeity]

His side-tri is amongst the best ever not because of his tricep, but because of how his whole physique looks in that pose, very thick, dense and dry.

If you compare his triceps (or overall arms) with guys that actually had great arms, you would see a difference.

No the tricep has nothing at all to do with the pose looking great