i doubt it he's natural? reminds me of this guy at my gym, he's 47 years old! and has a similar build, perhaps even thicker but has the same upper body vascularity and has that paper skin look. told me he's been lifting for like 30 years and his diet is only so so, but he does down the protein drinks. me thinks, he's full of shit! for a dude to be 47 years old and year round be below 10 percent body fat, with thickness and vascularity and that paper thin skin look he has to be taking something, especiall since like he said his diet is not spot on every day! this guy is not super huge, maybe a buck 80, but aren't there certain aas that don't bloat and perhaps dont built mass, but do give you that muscularity, vascularity and paper skin look?