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DADT Repealed...
« on: October 12, 2010, 03:51:31 PM »
Can't believe there's no thread for this yet, unless I just missed it.

SAN DIEGO – A federal judge issued a worldwide injunction Tuesday immediately stopping enforcement of the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy, suspending the 17-year-old ban on openly gay U.S. troops.

U.S. District Judge Virginia Phillips' landmark ruling also ordered the government to suspend and discontinue all pending discharge proceedings and investigations under the policy.

U.S. Department of Justice attorneys have 60 days to appeal. Pentagon and Department of Justice officials said they are reviewing the case and had no immediate comment.

The injunction goes into effect immediately, said Dan Woods, the attorney who represented the Log Cabin Republicans, the gay rights group that filed the lawsuit in 2004 to stop the ban's enforcement.

"Don't ask, don't tell, as of today at least, is done, and the government is going to have to do something now to resurrect it," Woods said. "This is an extremely significant, historic decision. Once and for all, this failed policy is stopped. Fortunately now we hope all Americans who wish to serve their country can."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101012/ap_on_re_us/us_gays_in_military
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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2010, 03:54:23 PM »
Who the fuck cares?  We have a few DADTers on Getbig.  Why can't they be gay and proud in the Armed Forces?  Shockwave do you care to expand upon this issue?  How do you feel? 

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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2010, 05:11:17 PM »
i just dont get this although ive never been in the military

arent you too busy training, and eating and defending our freedom to ask or tell?

or is the military some big secret party place
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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2010, 05:37:07 PM »
anyone who IS NOT in the military - that wants to limit who can serve based on sexual preference - can suck one.

If you're in the military, your opinion is relevant.  But if you aren't risking your skin - and you want to tell others WHO ARE RISKING THEIR SKIN - who to sex up in bed, that's just sad.

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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2010, 05:38:12 PM »
anyone who IS NOT in the military - that wants to limit who can serve based on sexual preference - can suck one.

amen
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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2010, 06:50:00 PM »
This should be decided by the military one way or the other, not the courts. 

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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2010, 07:09:08 PM »
This should be decided by the military one way or the other, not the courts. 

Actually this should be decided by congress, constitutionally they are in charge of Military policy, not a federal judge.
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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2010, 02:30:06 AM »
Blatant homosexuality is incapatable with military service. Many people can tolerate certain groups provided that they don't have to live with them. There isn't a person here on this board that doesn't have some prejudice against one group or another, however in 99.9% of the cases those they don't like won't be in their face 24/7 365. I don't care if some queer medic is patching me up...I just don't need to know anything about his sex life, his boyfriend or whatever....those things will be readily evident if and when DADT becomes a reality. DADT works. Nobody I serve with wants this repealed...I'm finishing deployment 3 in Iraq now.
But the number one reason I don't want this repealed is that the gay agenda in this case is to weaken the US Military and knock a bastion of conservatism down a peg or two. The Left hates the professional military and this is a way to poke us. If you want another rational opinion...try this.

On May 26, the Senate Armed Services Committee passed an amendment to the 2011 defense appropriations bill to repeal Section 654, Title 10 of the U.S. Code, which bans homosexual men and women from serving in the U.S. armed forces. Two days later, by a vote of 234-194, the House of Representatives passed its version of the bill, bringing the repeal of the 17-year-old “don’t ask, don’t tell” (DADT) policy a step closer to fruition.

That same week, a historic meeting between two of the outspoken voices on both sides of the issue of gays in the military met on stage in Montgomery, Ala. In front of more than 500 military students at Air Command and Staff College, Aaron Belkin from The Palm Center and Elaine Donnelly from the Center of Military Readiness made their cases against DADT.

Both agree that DADT is and has been bad policy from its inception in 1993. Where Belkin advocates a repeal of the gay ban, Donnelly insists that the Defense Department adhere to the tenets of the current law and enforce Congress’ mandate for homosexuals’ ineligibility to serve. Each authored chapters in “Attitudes Aren’t Free: Thinking Deeply About Diversity in The U.S. Armed Forces,” an Air University publication released earlier this year. The book includes a Palm Center report examining the costs and benefits of overturning the ban, and, from the Center for Military Readiness, a list of more than 1,160 flag and general officers opposed to gays in the military. Additionally, Belkin and colleagues outline a case for the commander in chief to use the current “stop loss” authority to overturn DADT, while Donnelly outlined the case for how such a repeal would foster a shock to the existing military culture that could degrade military readiness...


http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/2010/09/4679369



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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2010, 04:16:07 AM »
Blatant homosexuality is incapatable with military service. 

Evidently so too is the ability to spell.  :D
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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2010, 05:56:19 AM »
subscribing for the humor that is coming.
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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2010, 05:59:54 AM »
subscribing for the humor that is coming.

Why - do you plan on joing the military now? 

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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2010, 06:06:53 AM »
lol; not any more.
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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2010, 06:08:56 AM »
Evidently so too is the ability to spell.  :D
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 incompatible.....I'm fighting a war here Jag...oh wait its not, combat operations are over for Obama told me so. He's the best Obama ever..hugs for everybody...now back to fucking America
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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2010, 06:15:26 AM »

 incompatible.....I'm fighting a war here Jag...oh wait its not, combat operations are over for Obama told me so. He's the best Obama ever..hugs for everybody...now back to fucking America

HH6 - have you been lurking here the past few months? 

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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2010, 06:32:12 AM »
It looks like Strawman, KC and 240 no longer have an excuse not to enlist.

HH6 is 100% correct BTW. The military is not the place for self expression. You fucking losers that equate this garbage decision with desegregation among the races need your heads examined. The comparison isn't even in the same universe.   DADT will result in the lowering of morale among soldiers and will have the opposite of its intended effect. What's the over-under on some queer soldier suing because his bunkmates made fun of him, or even worse, how long before some gay marine gets a code red for being gay and dies?

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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2010, 07:24:09 AM »
I don't think this federal judge has the juridisction to do this, anyway (especially, if you have other district judges that have upheld DADT in similar cases).

The likelihood is that (assuming the DOJ actually does its job), that this goes to a higher court and the ruling gets overturned.

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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2010, 08:54:34 AM »
this is my question, that no one will answer

again i've never been in the military

i just don't understand what could possibly be wrong with DADT?  why would anyone want to ask or tell in the military?

i dont get that?

???
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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2010, 08:56:38 AM »
this is my question, that no one will answer

again i've never been in the military

i just don't understand what could possibly be wrong with DADT?  why would anyone want to ask or tell in the military?

i dont get that?

???

This has nothing to do with that! 


gays want to be able to flaut their sexuality openly without repurcution, regasrdless of the impact on the units, without fear of any repurcution or reprimand. 

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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2010, 08:59:04 AM »
gays want to be able to flaut their sexuality openly without repurcution, regasrdless of the impact on the units, without fear of any repurcution or reprimand. 

hey Mr Paladino, thanks for posting here :)

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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2010, 10:35:31 AM »
anyone who IS NOT in the military - that wants to limit who can serve based on sexual preference - can suck one.

If you're in the military, your opinion is relevant.  But if you aren't risking your skin - and you want to tell others WHO ARE RISKING THEIR SKIN - who to sex up in bed, that's just sad.

OK,GOOD.Then I dont want some f'n asshole like Joe Biden telling me not to take steroids.He doesnt lift,doesnt play sports,what buisiness is it to him.

Silly point,by your standard no one could speak about anything they werent involved in.What buisiness is it of you if police beat the hell out of blacks,your not a cop and your not black.

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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2010, 10:52:09 AM »
OK,GOOD.Then I dont want some f'n asshole like Joe Biden telling me not to take steroids.He doesnt lift,doesnt play sports,what buisiness is it to him.

Silly point,by your standard no one could speak about anything they werent involved in.What buisiness is it of you if police beat the hell out of blacks,your not a cop and your not black.

Billy= kicks the shit out of you and then debunks your feeble moral equivalency arguments and annoyingly absurd "non judgemental" attitude.

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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2010, 10:54:40 AM »
hey Mr Paladino, thanks for posting here :)

Bro - you need to start eating some more and stop taking gay pictures of yourself.     Deads, bench, and legs legs.  Those legs are looking tiny from what I can tell. 

You need like a 2 year bulking phase, shave your head, and man up. 

240 - why do you love palin so much?   

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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2010, 11:17:03 AM »
DADT repeal is happening much sooner than it thought it would.   It's a sign of progress IMO.  It's fucking stupid to have DADT.

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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2010, 12:25:45 PM »
The funny thing is probably some of the toughest, baddest, front line guys are gay.  Here's an example.  This guy seems very gay to me but he's probably tougher than anyone in this thread. 


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Re: DADT Repealed...
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2010, 12:27:58 PM »
All these guys could straight up be gay especially the wannabe tough guy in the black shirt and no one would know.  

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