Generation Jobless

[YngiweRhoads]

Is the situation that bad down South, or is this more sensationalism by the media?

The recession never really hit here, so we've been pretty lucky.

[Ex Coelis]

the army is always recruiting

man-up

[The True Adonis]

HAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHA HAH.  Sheep on display. 

[Deicide]

HAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAH.  Sheep on display. 

I should have thought you would be smart enough to realise that not everyone inherits money like you and can afford to do nothing all day.

[Deicide]

Is the situation that bad down South, or is this more sensationalism by the media?

The recession never really hit here, so we've been pretty lucky.

Last year it took me half a year to find a few part-time jobs; I sent out tons of CVs too.

Economy is shit, which is why I am back in uni doing this MSc in the hopes that it might lead somewhere.

[Voice of Doom]

I have a way she can make 10 bucks quick.....should the recession hit there.

[The True Adonis]

I should have thought you would be smart enough to realise that not everyone inherits money like you and can afford to do nothing all day.

The whole process is stupid, nonsensical, informal and phony.

Sending out resume`s, going for an interview....hahahhahhah ahah 

Yet people keep on with the pointless charades.

[Deicide]

The whole process is stupid, nonsensical, informal and phony.

Sending out resume`s, going for an interview....hahahhahhah ahah 

Yet people keep on with the pointless charades.

You are living in lala land. Are people supposed to live in a cardboard box?

[The True Adonis]

You are living in lala land. Are people supposed to live in a cardboard box?

No.  I believe in eliminating the charade and hiring on the spot, first come first serve, filling jobs for those who need or want to work. 

[~UN_$ung~]

its a numbers thing........not EVERYONE who graduates college is gonna find a good job soon............especial ly now-a-days when a college degree is what a high school diploma was 35 years ago...........you need a graduate degree to even impress anyone


but still, i went to well respected university, and all my friends got jobs coming out of school

the group having the hardest time, is not recent graduates........its white males in their 40 and 50s.........who, as their companies downsize and eliminate positions cause of the economy and new tschnology are having an IMPOSSIBLE time breaking back into the workplace

.......corporations would rather higher a kid on the cheap, then pay a large salary to a older more experianced employee




my father went to U of Penn Wharton (arguably the top business school in the country)..........and had a very rough time of things in the 2000s

[Deicide]

its a numbers thing........not EVERYONE who graduates college is gonna find a good job soon............especial ly now-a-days when a college degree is what a high school diploma was 35 years ago...........you need a graduate degree to even impress anyone


but still, i went to well respected university, and all my friends got jobs coming out of school

the group having the hardest time, is not recent graduates........its white males in their 40 and 50s.........who, as their companies downsize and eliminate positions cause of the economy and new tschnology are having an IMPOSSIBLE time breaking back into the workplace

.......corporations would rather higher a kid on the cheap, then pay a large salary to a older more experianced employee




my father went to U of Penn Wharton (arguably the top business school in the country)..........and had a very rough time of things in the 2000s

I have a master's degree and going on my 2nd one now. Shit is hard right now.

[Thin Lizzy]

Sooner or later, this College bubble is gonna burst. Most college courses can be taught via distance learning at a tiny fraction of the cost.

[YngiweRhoads]

Sooner or later, this College bubble is gonna burst. Most college courses can be taught via distance learning at a tiny fraction of the cost.

Took an entire 12 course certificate program online. It cost more than the same program if it was taken in class, but I was able to do it in my own time while holding down a full time job.

[~UN_$ung~]

Sooner or later, this College bubble is gonna burst. Most college courses can be taught via distance learning at a tiny fraction of the cost.

i agree, college was worthless for me intellectually


its just a money racket


just like the trades  like an electrician or a heavy diesel mechanic takes specific job intensive schooling........i believe thats how college should


you think i actually remember , or employ , an information i gleaned from some psychology 301 class in my daily life...........probably a 4 thousand dollar course, completely worthless

[The True Adonis]

Sooner or later, this College bubble is gonna burst. Most college courses can be taught via distance learning at a tiny fraction of the cost.

The only reason why employers LOVE the system is because they know the potential workers are in debt and won`t be going anywhere, therefore they can treat them any way they like.


Good Obedient workers in debt.  What more can you want as an employer?

[kiwiol]

No.  I believe in eliminating the charade and hiring on the spot, first come first serve, filling jobs for those who need or want to work. 

Obviously, you've never been in a position to hire someone, to know what sort of responsibility it entails.

Don't mean that as a snipe, but more of an observation.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Is the situation that bad down South, or is this more sensationalism by the media?

The recession never really hit here, so we've been pretty lucky.

Take a good look at all the online clothing sites. They're getting crushed, going out of business etc. The recession is massive.

[The True Adonis]

Obviously, you've never been in a position to hire someone, to know what sort of responsibility it entails.

Don't mean that as a snipe, but more of an observation.

It depends solely on what you are hiring for and what type of job it is.

Obviously I`m not going to hire an armless midget to swing a hammer on the rail line, but he would be a perfect fit in my traveling circus.

Hiring someone is more than a stupid hour long face to face interview or a sheet of paper with pointless "credentials".

[~UN_$ung~]

Take a good look at all the online clothing sites. They're getting crushed, going out of business etc. The recession is massive.

people talk about it being over............


i believe personally, and a lot of people i know, that it has barely even started



we are talking a massive crisis, a disappearing middle class, complete global unrest,

[kiwiol]

Hiring someone is more than a stupid hour long face to face interview or a sheet of paper with pointless "credentials".

That's exactly the point of the interview - to see how the applicant matches up in person to the image they portray through their resume. You are right in that it depends on the job, which is why I made my post, because the more important the position, the greater care you need to take when you hire someone to do the job. And you can't gauge a person solely via their CV.

If you are are an actual employer (and not someone who's in the position of hiring someone or a recruitment agent), it's a fair assumption that you put in some solid effort in your venture/company to take it to a stage where it's grown enough to warrant hiring outside help. In such a case, you'd be spitting on your own face and efforts, by hiring the first person who applies or shows up for the vacancy, without any second considerations.

If you took pride in what you've created, you'd want the best person for the job, whom you can't find without going through a few candidates to see what kind of talent is out there to be employed. If you're running a strip bar or construction work force, then yes, you can hire people on the spot without going through a whole list of candidates.

[The True Adonis]

That's exactly the point of the interview - to see how the applicant matches up in person to the image they portray through their resume. You are right in that it depends on the job, which is why I made my post, because the more important the position, the greater care you need to take when you hire someone to do the job. And you can't gauge a person solely via their CV.

If you are are an actual employer (and not someone who's in the position of hiring someone or a recruitment agent), it's a fair assumption that you put in some solid effort in your venture/company to take it to a stage where it's grown enough to warrant hiring outside help. In such a case, you'd be spitting on your own face and efforts, by hiring the first person who applies or shows up for the vacancy, without any second considerations.

If you took pride in what you've created, you'd want the best person for the job, whom you can't find without going through a few candidates to see what kind of talent is out there to be employed. If you're running a strip bar or construction work force, then yes, you can hire people on the spot without going through a whole list of candidates.

I disagree with your statement, "the more important the position, the greater care you need to take when you hire someone".  Football players have the most pointless, least important job, yet they go to great lengths to find and hire people they think will make the most money for their teams.

Teachers have nearly THE most important job to do, yet not so much care is taken to hire them, as much as a football player for instance.

[True]

Omg, who are these people kidding? Going out and showing up in person with the boss should be self-explanatory. "Doing it the old fashion way?" Wtf, thats no old fashion way - thats how it is supposed to be done! No wonder these retards dont get any answers and jobs, sending out resumes over the Internet. Fucking dorks, if they knew anything about the real job world it is like this.... You show up, talk with the boss and ask if there is anything avaiable. And if there is, good - you might get an interview and a job. If not, come again some other day. You gotta see this from the bosses perspective. They dont care about some resume you deliver, they just shuv that in another perm of resumes... The only time the bosses will care for your sorry ass is if they need help at that particular moment.  In other words you have to get lucky! Your resume dont mean shit if you just meet up one time, and then a month later some other guy is there at the right time and he gets the job instead. My best tip is to be aggressive. You have to "take" the job, go to the same place serveal times to see if anything has changed. Nobody is gonna give you shit in this world so its all up to you.

But I can relate to a lot in this video as Im in the same situation. The job marked sucks ass these days! There is nothing out there right now. And getting an education does not mean your gonna get a job right away either. They may have an edge, but thats it. You just have to get lucky sometimes, thats the way it is. Thats the way it is with appartments and realitonships too. You cant always get what you want, but if your like me - you would do anything possible to get it.

[Coach is Back!]

It depends solely on what you are hiring for and what type of job it is.

Obviously I`m not going to hire an armless midget to swing a hammer on the rail line, but he would be a perfect fit in my traveling circus.

Hiring someone is more than a stupid hour long face to face interview or a sheet of paper with pointless "credentials".

You mean the traveling circus known as the Obama administration?

[tonymctones]

I disagree with your statement, "the more important the position, the greater care you need to take when you hire someone".  Football players have the most pointless, least important job, yet they go to great lengths to find and hire people they think will make the most money for their teams.

Teachers have nearly THE most important job to do, yet not so much care is taken to hire them, as much as a football player for instance.

thats b/c youre comparing a public service and a business...

a business main priority is to increase returns for stake holders...

a public service such as that of school doesnt make more money if their teachers are good or not

look at private colleges and their professor's pay, that is a business not a public service

[kiwiol]

thats b/c youre comparing a public service and a business...

a business main priority is to increase returns for stake holders...

a public service such as that of school doesnt make more money if their teachers are good or not

look at private colleges and their professor's pay, that is a business not a public service

Couldn't have said it better.

TA, I know your view on kids, but that aside, it's no different than finding a babysitter for your kid - you don't pick the first hag that comes along, but take time to make sure you're hiring someone responsible and with the skills for the job. Your analogy about the teachers is not right, cause if you look at a private institution, they ARE going to exert themselves a lot more than a government institute. That's the reason why companies have an entire section devoted to that aspect of the business viz. Human Resources.

The effectiveness of the HR department and their flaws is a whole different topic altogether, though.