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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2010, 02:31:52 PM »
I'm not saying I know how big MuscleMc's arms are, but those of us, like me, who have smaller arm, we know what that kind of arm looks like, because we have it! My arms are not one of my strongest bodyparts, nor do they look anything spectacular at 15 or 15½", but I'm 6', 250 pounds. And now there are guys like Matt C, 4 or 5 inches shorter, ~70 pounds lighter who claim they have the same size arm as me while proportionally they look even weaker than mine! How does that make sense?
250 pounds with a 15 inch arm? sounds like a fat person that doesn't work out.

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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2010, 02:34:57 PM »
Who the fuck cares already.

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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2010, 02:35:32 PM »
think about what you just said for a moment... where did the original energy come from?  where did the original mass come from?  who created these things?  did they create themselves?  

if you think that they have just "always been", or "spontaneously generated", then you have left science and are now religious b/c those beliefs are not supportable through science.  

if I were to say God has always been, and he spontaneously made everything, then you will scoff, yet you believe the same thing, but that it happened out of "nothing".  which one is more absurd.



No we haven't left science when we say they have always been , the conservation of mass/energy proves that matter can't be created or destroyed , this is a scientific fact , you're working under the assumption it needs to be created or that there had to be nothing instead of what it always was something in one form or another





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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2010, 02:37:04 PM »
Anyone that believes Layne has a legit 18 inch arm is a fucking idiot.  Sorry OPer you fall into that category if you believe that.  And "MattC" in that picture has probably a 13-14 inch arm.  It doesn't even look like he works out.   ::)

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16's at best on layne. 14's on matt. Good forearms on matt though.

The difference between a 16 inch arm and a 20 inch arm is huge.
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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2010, 02:45:40 PM »
250 pounds with a 15 inch arm? sounds like a fat person that doesn't work out.

Or just honest.

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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2010, 03:21:47 PM »
I don't know, Dave Willoughby taped various WSM contestants for an article in the May 1983 Ironman.

He gave the following measurements for:

Bill Kazmaier:

Biceps:21.4
Forearm:16.6
Weight:320
Height:6' 2"
Wrist: 8.6

Ken Patera:

Biceps:21.7
Forearm:16.8
Wrist:9.5"
Ht.6' 1" .5
Weight:345lbs.

Those were measurements taken for two high level strongmen, each about the same height as Arnold, but 80-100lbs. heavier than Arnold at his competitive weight. look at the arm measurements. Now, granted, they'll be some variation do to training style, etc.... but it wouldn't be that large. I'd guess his arms were 19ish in that photo. He might of taped out larger when he was a offseason 260lbs, but not 3 inches more.

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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2010, 03:27:44 PM »
I don't know, Dave Willoughby taped various WSM contestants for an article in the May 1983 Ironman.

He gave the following measurements for:

Bill Kazmaier:

Biceps:21.4
Forearm:16.6
Weight:320
Height:6' 2"
Wrist: 8.6

Ken Patera:

Biceps:21.7
Forearm:16.8
Wrist:9.5"
Ht.6' 1" .5
Weight:345lbs.

Those were measurements taken for two high level strongmen, each about the same height as Arnold, but 80-100lbs. heavier than Arnold at his competitive weight. look at the arm measurements. Now, granted, they'll be some variation do to training style, etc.... but it wouldn't be that large. I'd guess his arms were 19ish in that photo. He might of taped out larger when he was a offseason 260lbs, but not 3 inches more.

Oh brother Arnold was never 260lbs in the off season.  No fucking way.  If anything he was always smaller in the offseason.  Arnold was at his biggest weight wise when he first came to America at 18 years old.  He was easily 260 then.  But after that he was NEVER as "big" as he was when he was 18-19.  I have the old IronMan where he is on the cover.  He was huge.  BUt he was bloated too.  Id' say Arnold probably fluctuated 15 lbs so he was maybe 245 offseason.  None of those guys got that big in the offseason and most actually lost weight. 

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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2010, 03:31:12 PM »
That's what I ment, the fat "Vince's Gym" pics, that you see sometimes.

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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2010, 04:36:56 PM »
Kazmaier was big, thick all the way down, including the midsection, not refined like Arnold and developed to max where needed.
Can't find a flexed pic exactly of his arms but they dont look that huge and not overly impressive in this shot.

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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2010, 05:16:05 PM »
 i think a lot of guys focus too much on the size or weight of someone and not how they look.

david henry is only 202 yet looks bigger than wolf when looking solely at seperate pics or in a video.

obviously when they are next to each other wolf dwarfs him though.
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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2010, 05:20:32 PM »
Or just honest.
yes you're a fat/skinny person on a bodybuildingboard. atleast you're honest.

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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2010, 05:31:23 PM »
i think a lot of guys focus too much on the size or weight of someone and not how they look.

david henry is only 202 yet looks bigger than wolf when looking solely at seperate pics or in a video.

obviously when they are next to each other wolf dwarfs him though.
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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2010, 05:49:32 PM »
you look like this


why are you still here?

your mom doesn't seem to mind  ???
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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2010, 05:56:43 PM »
your mom doesn't seem to mind  ???

I'm sorry, Fatpanda, but that 'comeback' was so middle school. LOL!

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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2010, 06:00:30 PM »
I'm sorry, Fatpanda, but that 'comeback' was so middle school. LOL!

i'm glad i amused you, now about that ronnie cycle........  ;D

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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2010, 06:20:20 PM »
yes you're a fat/skinny person on a bodybuildingboard. atleast you're honest.

I might post some pics for the celebration of my 5000th post.  8) I will claim 18 inch arms. Lets watch how half of the board believes me.  ::)

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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2010, 09:09:38 AM »
I'm not saying I know how big MuscleMc's arms are, but those of us, like me, who have smaller arm, we know what that kind of arm looks like, because we have it! My arms are not one of my strongest bodyparts, nor do they look anything spectacular at 15 or 15½", but I'm 6', 250 pounds. And now there are guys like Matt C, 4 or 5 inches shorter, ~70 pounds lighter who claim they have the same size arm as me while proportionally they look even weaker than mine! How does that make sense?

Ok, I feel little stupid now. Bought a measuring tape and measured. 42.5 cm, 16.75 inches. Ooops.  ;D I had no idea arms could grow almost 2 inches without me noticing anything.  ???

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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2010, 09:16:01 AM »
Kazmaier was big, thick all the way down, including the midsection, not refined like Arnold and developed to max where needed.
Can't find a flexed pic exactly of his arms but they dont look that huge and not overly impressive in this shot.

Well for someone who knows Kaz and has seen him up close and personal.  His arms are extremely impressive.  The brachial-radialus is just the biggest I have seen.  And who cares about his midsection.  He is not a bodybuilder.  And believ me at 6'3" and 320 you find many bodybuilders with a great midsection either. 
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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #43 on: October 14, 2010, 09:28:25 AM »
I think Kaz's arms look like shit in all of those photo's. zero cut, shape or hardness.
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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2010, 09:53:38 AM »
Fuck, 9.5" WRISTS on Ken Patera? Fucking terminator skeleton.

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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #45 on: October 14, 2010, 10:22:22 AM »
I think Kaz's arms look like shit in all of those photo's. zero cut, shape or hardness.

Dude we all know we can't have arms like you but man give him a break.  he tries as hard as he can.  if you have advice for him to get stronger and bigger I can give you his cell number and maybe you can help him ::)

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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #46 on: October 14, 2010, 10:58:41 AM »
Dude we all know we can't have arms like you but man give him a break.  he tries as hard as he can.  if you have advice for him to get stronger and bigger I can give you his cell number and maybe you can help him ::)




You made an erroneous statement. Where did i question Kaz's strength or size? It's pretty clear that Kaz doesn't have good arms from an aesthetic point of view, nothing more complicated than that. ;)
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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #47 on: October 14, 2010, 11:32:07 AM »

You made an erroneous statement. Where did i question Kaz's strength or size? It's pretty clear that Kaz doesn't have good arms from an aesthetic point of view, nothing more complicated than that. ;)

Well you did say zero cuts, shape and hardness.  his arms are over 20" and about as hard as they get.  Plus they are not for show but for GO.  Obviously you have not been around guys who are strong as hell and have 20"+ arms.  I understand.  So I can cut you some slack. 
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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #48 on: October 14, 2010, 12:48:58 PM »
I don't care about his midsection either, was just saying thats where alot of his extra weight would be. Some shots his stomach is massive
Well for someone who knows Kaz and has seen him up close and personal.  His arms are extremely impressive.  The brachial-radialus is just the biggest I have seen.  And who cares about his midsection.  He is not a bodybuilder.  And believ me at 6'3" and 320 you find many bodybuilders with a great midsection either. 

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Re: Arnold's 19" Arms...
« Reply #49 on: October 14, 2010, 01:56:16 PM »
of course this is getbig so ppl being close to the oak, the legend in the arm dept., is the norm...

the pic of that guy, arms looks good seperated good peak but to ssay close to arnold, lololol  ::)
c'mon geat real... and just because in 2d pics what may look like not "getting dwarfed" but in 3d there anothers side to the arm wch can be bigger also which now turns for example a 1" dif into 2" or more dif

this isnt even funny as a joke  :-\