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Merkel says German multicultural society has failed
« on: October 16, 2010, 03:19:52 PM »
Merkel says German multicultural society has failed

Attempts to build a multicultural society in Germany have "utterly failed", Chancellor Angela Merkel says.


In a speech in Potsdam, she said the so-called "multikulti" concept - where people would "live side-by-side" happily - did not work.

Mrs Merkel's comments come amid recent outpourings of strong anti-immigrant feeling from mainstream politicians.

A recent survey showed that more than 30% of Germans believed Germany was "overrun by foreigners".

The study - by the Friedrich Ebert Foundation think-tank - also showed that roughly the same number thought that some 16 million of Germany's immigrants or people with foreign origins had come to the country for the social benefits.


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Mrs Merkel told a gathering of younger members of her conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU) party on Saturday that at "the beginning of the 60s our country called the foreign workers to come to Germany and now they live in our country... We kidded ourselves a while, we said: 'They won't stay, sometime they will be gone', but this isn't reality.

"And of course, the approach [to build] a multicultural [society] and to live side-by-side and to enjoy each other... has failed, utterly failed."

In her speech, the chancellor specifically referred to recent comments by German President Christian Wulff who said that Islam was "part of Germany" like Christianity and Judaism.

While acknowledging that this was the case, Mrs Merkel stressed that immigrants living in Germany needed to do more to integrate, including learning to speak German.

"Anyone who does not immediately speak German", she said, "is not welcome".

By speaking now, Mrs Merkel has now joined the increasingly hot debate on multiculturalism, coming down on the side of those who are uneasy about immigration, says the BBC's correspondent in Berlin, Stephen Evans.

Her comments come a week after she held talks with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, in which the two leaders pledged to do more to improve the often poor integration record of Germany's estimated 2.5 million-strong Turkish community.


Earlier this week, Horst Seehofer, the leader of the CDU's Bavarian sister party, CSU, said about integration that it was "obvious that immigrants from different cultures like Turkey and Arab countries, all in all, find it harder".

"'Multikulti' is dead," Mr Seehofer said.

In August, Thilo Sarrazin, a senior official at Germany's central bank, said that "no immigrant group other than Muslims is so strongly connected with claims on the welfare state and crime". Mr Sarrazin has since resigned.


Such recent strong anti-immigrant feelings from mainstream politicians come amid an anger in Germany about high unemployment, even if the economy is growing faster than those of its rivals, our correspondent says.

He adds that there also seems to be a new strident tone in the country, perhaps leading to less reticence about no-go-areas of the past.

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Re: Merkel says German multicultural society has failed
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2010, 02:43:18 AM »
They should've taken a few lessons from Canada.
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Re: Merkel says German multicultural society has failed
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2010, 03:22:43 AM »
serious question:  We've been at it (multicultural society) a lot longer than Germany.  Is it working for us?

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Re: Merkel says German multicultural society has failed
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2010, 04:30:30 AM »
serious question:  We've been at it (multicultural society) a lot longer than Germany.  Is it working for us?

It's certainly working for Canadians who only adopted such a policy in the late 60's and made it official in early 70's I believe.
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Re: Merkel says German multicultural society has failed
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2010, 04:47:19 AM »
Another "brilliant" paper from another think-tank.

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Re: Merkel says German multicultural society has failed
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2010, 04:52:12 AM »
Another "brilliant" paper from another think-tank.

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please elaborate
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Re: Merkel says German multicultural society has failed
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2010, 05:11:45 AM »
please elaborate
yes please elaborate slapper...

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Re: Merkel says German multicultural society has failed
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2010, 05:22:01 AM »
serious question:  We've been at it (multicultural society) a lot longer than Germany.  Is it working for us?

Sort of and Germany has a very different history and political system, like comparing the hackneyed apples and oranges.
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Re: Merkel says German multicultural society has failed
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2010, 05:31:25 AM »
yes please elaborate slapper...

Jag?  WTF!!!  24KT???  get bold and change your name to something like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad lol...  I still get meltdowns over the name I picked.... It's true gold right there lol...

LOL

Somehow, I think something brilliant, coveted, glittery and 99.999% pure is much closer to who I am,
than a short, angry hardcore rightwing politician. Not interested in causing meltdowns at this point.
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Re: Merkel says German multicultural society has failed
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2010, 05:51:12 AM »
please elaborate

I won't.

I think I'm abundantly clear in what I'm insinuating.

A "think tank" carrying out a social study is like putting the Red Sox or the Jets in charge of cleaning the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

As a sidenote, regardless of what Ms. Merkel and all the Germans say, Germany is in a infinitely better place nowadays, socially speaking of course, than 60 years ago.

Merkel insinuating that Germany is going in the wrong direction socially is dealing a low blow, indirectly mind you, to the Turkish immigrants and is a turn in the wrong direction. And I don't think I need to point out how Germans deal with "social stress"...



What Merkel is doing is very dangerous, because God forbid the economic crisis deepens... and all the anger and resentment will be put on someone else. That always seems to work. And I can almost see how that would play out: The Turks will be the new Jews. Wouldn't that be ironical?

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Re: Merkel says German multicultural society has failed
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2010, 06:38:02 AM »
LOL

Somehow, I think something brilliant, coveted, glittery and 99.999% pure is much closer to who I am,
than a short, angry hardcore rightwing politician. Not interested in causing meltdowns at this point.
gold doesn't glitter, fool's gold glitters. ;)

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Re: Merkel says German multicultural society has failed
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2010, 05:45:16 AM »
gold doesn't glitter, fool's gold glitters. ;)

It most certainly does depending on the finish and how the light reflects off it.
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Re: Merkel says German multicultural society has failed
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2010, 05:49:16 AM »
I won't.

I think I'm abundantly clear in what I'm insinuating.

Your insinuation wasn't clear up until now. I wasn't sure if you were speaking about Canada or Germany.
Uh... thanks for the clarification. And I agree. It was a stupid & irresponsible statement for Merkel to make.
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Re: Merkel says German multicultural society has failed
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2010, 05:51:55 AM »
serious question:  We've been at it (multicultural society) a lot longer than Germany.  Is it working for us?

Not it is not working for us.  It used to work, but now it does not.

Whether its immigrants making demands that everything be put into their own language, refusal of immigrants to learn english, race and ethnic based immigration policies, group think and groups like La Raza, refusal to enforce immigration laws, politicians pandering to ethnic arsonists, blame the USA 24/7 for everything, and on and on, we are becoming more balkanized, fractured, and disunified.  


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