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Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« on: October 16, 2010, 10:08:41 PM »
She's the German chancellor for those who didn't know. German's Obama. Funny that it's the Germans of all people making these noises again. As a liberal (or trying to be), I have to agree with her sentiments.


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(Reuters) - Germany's attempt to create a multicultural society has "utterly failed," Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Saturday, adding fuel to a debate over immigration and Islam polarising her conservative camp.

Speaking to a meeting of young members of her Christian Democrats (CDU), Merkel said allowing people of different cultural backgrounds to live side by side without integrating had not worked in a country that is home to some four million Muslims.

"This (multicultural) approach has failed, utterly failed," Merkel told the meeting in Potsdam, south of Berlin.

Merkel faces pressure from within her CDU to take a tougher line on immigrants who don't show a willingness to adapt to German society and her comments appeared intended to pacify her critics.

She said too little had been required of immigrants in the past and repeated her usual line that they should learn German in order to get by in school and have opportunities on the labour market.

The debate over foreigners in Germany has shifted since former central banker Thilo Sarrazin published a book accusing Muslim immigrants of lowering the intelligence of German society.

Sarrazin was censured for his views and dismissed from the Bundesbank, but his book proved highly popular and polls showed a majority of Germans agreed with the thrust of his arguments.

Merkel has tried to accommodate both sides of the debate, talking tough on integration but also telling Germans that they must accept that mosques have become part of their landscape.

She said on Saturday that the education of unemployed Germans should take priority over recruiting workers from abroad, while noting Germany could not get by without skilled foreign workers.

In a weekend newspaper interview, her Labour Minister Ursula von der Leyen (CDU) raised the possibility of lowering barriers to entry for some foreign workers in order to fight the lack of skilled workers in Europe's largest economy.

"For a few years, more people have been leaving our country than entering it," she told the Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung. "Wherever it is possible, we must lower the entry hurdles for those who bring the country forward."

The German Chamber of Industry and Commerce (DIHK) says Germany lacks about 400,000 skilled workers.

Yet Horst Seehofer, chairman of the Christian Social Union (CSU), the CDU's sister party, has rejected any relaxation of immigration laws and said last week there was no room in Germany for more people from "alien cultures.
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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2010, 10:14:37 PM »
"Blah blah blah Nasser blah blah blah Sherief blah blah blah Olympia blah blah blah Oil Money."

Someone is bound to type some nonsense like that in. 

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2010, 10:14:49 PM »
She's right...I lived there 6 years....Africans, Russians and Turks are the problem...Russians are thieves, gangsters and con artists, Africans are lazy and Turks have 10 kids and don't assimilate...

Don't mean to generalize and obviously there are exceptions but that's the truth...

BUT!  Deutschland makes it very tempting for foreigners to come in and take advantage of their system...
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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2010, 11:42:25 PM »
Language borders and culture........as Michael Weiner says.  If you don't have those you've lost your nation.

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2010, 12:13:14 AM »
Language borders and culture........as Michael Weiner says.  If you don't have those you've lost your nation.

By Michael Weiner do you mean Savage?  I listen to him and know he preaches this...I like his hometown stories.
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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2010, 12:35:19 AM »
eastern europa got 2 problem.

-only the mediteranean sea separe it from Africa.

-too much social help, too much socialism.


the immigrant got 2 problem.

-some are muslim.

-some are real african, but a "real african" is really different than an "african-american", even my collegue coming from french antilles (guadeloupe etc) hate theme.

of course multiculturalism has failed, but you don't need to be a genius to realise that these people are lowering our standart.
Unfortunately it took 30 years to europa to see that.
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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2010, 12:50:09 AM »
i would love to see the nations of europe become far more conservative. germany for germans - is that such a novel idea  ::)

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2010, 12:57:37 AM »
national-socialism is a good theory "ā la base", but the only real experience ended up with 55 millions of dead.

lol you do know that it's an integral part of national socialism to despise jews, right?

Besides, it would never work without Hitler.
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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2010, 01:10:49 AM »
lol you do know that it's an integral part of national socialism to despise jews, right?

Besides, it would never work without Hitler.

correct i was speaking about economical aspect of it, not the racial aspect, which is an igniominie.


communism around the world has made million of victim, maybe ten time more than n-s, but they're still communist in parlement of modern democraty.
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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2010, 01:25:14 AM »
There is no way back, in 60 years half europe will be immigrants from africa and asia.
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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2010, 01:50:35 AM »
Immigrants should be required to speak the language, know the customs and integrate into the society of their adopted country. No likey? Get the fuck back to wherever you came from.

I don't think that's too much to expect. No doubt in today's over-PC society it could never be the case.

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2010, 02:00:46 AM »
Language borders and culture........as Michael Weiner says.  If you don't have those you've lost your nation.
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100% correct


they are seeking to remove the elements that make a nation a nation

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2010, 02:09:03 AM »
all politicians are scared of being called racist. they compete in "political correctness". they think they are fighting the good battle when they're turning the country to shit. soon they will realize.

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2010, 02:30:32 AM »
all politicians are scared of being called racist. they compete in "political correctness". they think they are fighting the good battle when they're turning the country to shit. soon they will realize.


i fear it will eb too late for the west before anyone actaually takes necessary action




look at the US.............probably a total of over 50 million (legal and illegal) hispanic immigrants have poured into the country over the last decade

now, they represent such a large voting block, it would be suicide for any politician who does anything to piss them off


we in the US just have the take it over the proverbial barrel and accept that fact that our collective quality of life has become lower, cities have become more dangerous, wages have become lower, and the person taking your order in the drive through cannot speak english

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2010, 03:15:24 AM »
What did she expect?
As if those apes had any interest in leading a better life somewhere else.
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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2010, 03:50:23 AM »
Language borders and culture........as Michael Weiner says.  If you don't have those you've lost your nation.
I agree and while we need to respect other cultures you don't need to agree with them or adopt them as your own.

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2010, 04:14:02 AM »
I don't understand the welfare possibilities...

It should be considered as a help during a rough time, not an income for the rest of your life. After 5 years it should stop (or be seriously lowered to say 25%) and those who haven't done shit during those "help" years should STFU and GTFO
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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2010, 10:05:42 AM »
Nationalism is the last refuge of the coward.


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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2010, 10:10:27 AM »
Hitler would have known how to handle this.

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2010, 10:25:28 AM »
Nationalism is the last refuge of the coward.



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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2010, 10:32:52 AM »
Thinking of europes problem, make Mexicans look like model minorities. Astleast there's a common culture. Mexican's got way more in common with american's that say germans and turks.

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2010, 10:35:47 AM »
Thinking of europes problem, make Mexicans look like model minorities. Astleast there's a common culture. Mexican's got way more in common with american's that say germans and turks.

softneck assimilated with no problems. 

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2010, 10:42:45 AM »
Nationalism is the last refuge of the coward.



I thought patriotism was the last refuge of the scoundrel.


I have to say though, it would rankle to get the shit eye as you walk down the street from people who just arrived, and it damn sure happens.  Happens between races too for absolutely no reason, and it's enough to piss a liberal off.

Humans are primitive bastards.  Tribalism is in our nature, unfortunately.

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2010, 10:50:02 AM »
I thought patriotism was the last refuge of the scoundrel.


I have to say though, it would rankle to get the shit eye as you walk down the street from people who just arrived, and it damn sure happens.  Happens between races too for absolutely no reason, and it's enough to piss a liberal off.

Humans are primitive bastards.  Tribalism is in our nature, unfortunately.
The race thing ain't such a problem if people are of one culture. The problem isn't they aren't and aren't trying to be. That's why mexicans work. Ideally they should be the middle ground between blacks and whites. A blend no major divisions. This can't happen in Europe where you got muslims versus, Christians, Russians versus german etc. There's no middle ground, and their no plan to have one develope. Kids born today will just think of Mexicans like canadians no huge difference just part of the blend.

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2010, 11:07:26 AM »
Africans, Russians and Turks are the problem...Russians are thieves, gangsters and con artists, Africans are lazy and Turks have 10 kids and don't assimilate...

Don't mean to generalize and obviously there are exceptions but that's the truth...



This is obviously a generalization but it is awfully accurate.
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