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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2010, 11:33:34 AM »
This is obviously a generalization but it is awfully accurate.

No it's not. It's a ridiculous generalisation. Ridiculous.

I have noticed that the first generation of immigrants work hard, stick to themselves and generally try not being a nuisance. Along come your second generation who grow up knowing very little hardship and end up realising they're being marginalized. They lash out and end up sticking to themselves due to the fact that they're tolerated, but not accepted. I'm white, so I was born with an unshakeable superiority complex over people of colour. No white can ever understand what it's like being discriminated against. I'd imagine it results in a pretty unique sense of mind.

On the other hand, every single Muslim, African and other mud people I've met has been as cool as anything. Last Friday night me and the girlfriend went out to WagaMama. Any London based person would know any WagaMama is always buzzing and you're forced to share tables at times. We ended up sharing with an African American couple from North Carolina. Both dentists. We had a most enjoyable evening and even my girlfriend admitted to me later on that her opinion on blacks has changed a little.

We only ever see and focus on the negatives, while the positives are so conveniently ignored.
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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2010, 11:36:59 AM »
i would love to see the nations of europe become far more conservative. germany for germans - is that such a novel idea  ::)

i like where this is going!  ;D
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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2010, 11:43:26 AM »
No it's not. It's a ridiculous generalisation. Ridiculous.

I have noticed that the first generation of immigrants work hard, stick to themselves and generally try not being a nuisance. Along come your second generation who grow up knowing very little hardship and end up realising they're being marginalized. They lash out and end up sticking to themselves due to the fact that they're tolerated, but not accepted. I'm white, so I was born with an unshakeable superiority complex over people of colour. No white can ever understand what it's like being discriminated against. I'd imagine it results in a pretty unique sense of mind.

On the other hand, every single Muslim, African and other mud people I've met has been as cool as anything. Last Friday night me and the girlfriend went out to WagaMama. Any London based person would know any WagaMama is always buzzing and you're forced to share tables at times. We ended up sharing with an African American couple from North Carolina. Both dentists. We had a most enjoyable evening and even my girlfriend admitted to me later on that her opinion on blacks has changed a little.

We only ever see and focus on the negatives, while the positives are so conveniently ignored.

Having multiple influence is always better than a single one. Austria is boring as fuck and new blood is always welcome.
Only complain is that things get lopsided with only little immigration from countries other than turkey, ex jugo-slavianien and russia.

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2010, 12:15:18 PM »
She's the German chancellor for those who didn't know. German's Obama. Funny that it's the Germans of all people making these noises again. As a liberal (or trying to be), I have to agree with her sentiments.


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(Reuters) - Germany's attempt to create a multicultural society has "utterly failed," Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Saturday, adding fuel to a debate over immigration and Islam polarising her conservative camp.

Speaking to a meeting of young members of her Christian Democrats (CDU), Merkel said allowing people of different cultural backgrounds to live side by side without integrating had not worked in a country that is home to some four million Muslims.

"This (multicultural) approach has failed, utterly failed," Merkel told the meeting in Potsdam, south of Berlin.

Merkel faces pressure from within her CDU to take a tougher line on immigrants who don't show a willingness to adapt to German society and her comments appeared intended to pacify her critics.

She said too little had been required of immigrants in the past and repeated her usual line that they should learn German in order to get by in school and have opportunities on the labour market.

The debate over foreigners in Germany has shifted since former central banker Thilo Sarrazin published a book accusing Muslim immigrants of lowering the intelligence of German society.

Sarrazin was censured for his views and dismissed from the Bundesbank, but his book proved highly popular and polls showed a majority of Germans agreed with the thrust of his arguments.

Merkel has tried to accommodate both sides of the debate, talking tough on integration but also telling Germans that they must accept that mosques have become part of their landscape.

She said on Saturday that the education of unemployed Germans should take priority over recruiting workers from abroad, while noting Germany could not get by without skilled foreign workers.

In a weekend newspaper interview, her Labour Minister Ursula von der Leyen (CDU) raised the possibility of lowering barriers to entry for some foreign workers in order to fight the lack of skilled workers in Europe's largest economy.

"For a few years, more people have been leaving our country than entering it," she told the Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung. "Wherever it is possible, we must lower the entry hurdles for those who bring the country forward."

The German Chamber of Industry and Commerce (DIHK) says Germany lacks about 400,000 skilled workers.

Yet Horst Seehofer, chairman of the Christian Social Union (CSU), the CDU's sister party, has rejected any relaxation of immigration laws and said last week there was no room in Germany for more people from "alien cultures.

S'called globalization folks.... an inevitable side effect. Don't like it too much when it's done back to your country do ya's?

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2010, 12:20:51 PM »
Having multiple influence is always better than a single one. Austria is boring as fuck and new blood is always welcome.
Only complain is that things get lopsided with only little immigration from countries other than turkey, ex jugo-slavianien and russia.



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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2010, 12:32:07 PM »
No it's not. It's a ridiculous generalisation. Ridiculous.

I have noticed that the first generation of immigrants work hard, stick to themselves and generally try not being a nuisance. Along come your second generation who grow up knowing very little hardship and end up realising they're being marginalized. They lash out and end up sticking to themselves due to the fact that they're tolerated, but not accepted. I'm white, so I was born with an unshakeable superiority complex over people of colour. No white can ever understand what it's like being discriminated against. I'd imagine it results in a pretty unique sense of mind.

On the other hand, every single Muslim, African and other mud people I've met has been as cool as anything. Last Friday night me and the girlfriend went out to WagaMama. Any London based person would know any WagaMama is always buzzing and you're forced to share tables at times. We ended up sharing with an African American couple from North Carolina. Both dentists. We had a most enjoyable evening and even my girlfriend admitted to me later on that her opinion on blacks has changed a little.

We only ever see and focus on the negatives, while the positives are so conveniently ignored.
What the fuck to american's have to do with africans. It's completely different cultural. It ain't about race it's culture more than anything. Race can often add to a cultural barrier but it's not the deciding factor. I guess canada is a little different but you will see people, that become brown canadians. Then you'll also see second genns putting down their religion and only marrying within their religous group. If immigrant culture is to survive you need intermarriage to create bridges between groups. It's how italians germans and the irish got along so well it the states. Everyone is so mixed it's hard to hate  on one group or another.

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2010, 12:38:53 PM »
No it's not. It's a ridiculous generalisation. Ridiculous.

I have noticed that the first generation of immigrants work hard, stick to themselves and generally try not being a nuisance. Along come your second generation who grow up knowing very little hardship and end up realising they're being marginalized. They lash out and end up sticking to themselves due to the fact that they're tolerated, but not accepted. I'm white, so I was born with an unshakeable superiority complex over people of colour. No white can ever understand what it's like being discriminated against. I'd imagine it results in a pretty unique sense of mind.

On the other hand, every single Muslim, African and other mud people I've met has been as cool as anything. Last Friday night me and the girlfriend went out to WagaMama. Any London based person would know any WagaMama is always buzzing and you're forced to share tables at times. We ended up sharing with an African American couple from North Carolina. Both dentists. We had a most enjoyable evening and even my girlfriend admitted to me later on that her opinion on blacks has changed a little.

We only ever see and focus on the negatives, while the positives are so conveniently ignored.


African Americans lol, how would they be in any way comparable to off the boat muslims, Africans, Eastern europeans et cetera?
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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2010, 12:43:17 PM »
turks are all integrated :D

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2010, 12:44:47 PM »
turks are all integrated :D

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Yeah, you just have a weird idea of what intergration is.

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2010, 12:46:00 PM »
What does nationalism have to do with it? The fact is that there are a growing number of Muslims in Germany who answer to Sharia Law and not the German constitution, and that's a problem. There are currently 100 or so (probably more) Germans training in jihad camps in Pakistan. They have every right to be pissed off by a group of people who make 0 attempt to assimilate into Western society and instead bleed it dry while trying to destroy it.

They should take a page out of the Chinese/Korean/etc immigrant playbook and contribute to the country they move to instead of destroying it.

Multiculturalism hasn't failed but certain demographics have failed multiculturalism.

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2010, 12:49:17 PM »

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2010, 12:55:20 PM »
ihr spasten das war spass

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2010, 01:01:37 PM »

African Americans lol, how would they be in any way comparable to off the boat muslims, Africans, Eastern europeans et cetera?

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2010, 01:07:01 PM »
Es lebe der Joerg Haider!

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2010, 01:08:29 PM »
Es lebe der Joerg Haider!

Joerg who?


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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2010, 01:09:34 PM »


Tuerken...hmm. Die Nordafrikaner sind VIEL schlimmer meiner Erfahrung nach.
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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2010, 01:11:56 PM »
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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2010, 01:13:23 PM »
Major fail... :-\

Yeah, 27 % in Vienna (more than doubled from the last elections and more than ÖVP and Grüne combined) sounds like a major fail....moron ::)

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2010, 01:19:29 PM »
in every nationality there are mongos
i am integrated

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #45 on: October 17, 2010, 01:23:56 PM »
Yeah, 27 % in Vienna (more than doubled from the last elections and more than ÖVP and Grüne combined) sounds like a major fail....moron ::)

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #46 on: October 17, 2010, 01:27:44 PM »
More immigrants are coming...

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #47 on: October 17, 2010, 01:36:09 PM »
Merkel's epic looking at the glass half empty. Multiculturalism hasn't failed, it's the fact that without the requirement of assimmulation, it's harder for it to work...

America only has recently had it's  problem due to certain Hispanic populations who are very nationalistic, who don't want to speak English and want everybody else to speak Spanish. Coupled with the fact that Corps want to make money, so they put things in Spanish, under the guise of helping them, but what it is for is get their money. This creates a system in which their are pockets of Latinos who are isolated from society at large, and when they need help, cannot communicate.

Without he basic requirement of intergration within a society, whether it be German or American shit will hit  the fan. Unfortunately, you have to lose a little to gain a lot.

 

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #48 on: October 17, 2010, 01:38:48 PM »
turks are also nationalists
i don't think that's the problem
they just should integrate themselves more
but i know it's hard
not everyone thinks like me

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Re: Merkel: Muliculturalism has failed
« Reply #49 on: October 17, 2010, 01:47:49 PM »
turks are also nationalists
i don't think that's the problem
they just should integrate themselves more
but i know it's hard
not everyone thinks like me

You need to throw kebabs at them...
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