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body by science 1 upps mentzer 6-9 days rest!
« on: October 19, 2010, 06:16:43 PM »
1 workout every 7 days! 7-10 for stronger

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anyone try this program?

http://www.bodybyscience.net/home.html/?page_id=43

As many readers of my articles are aware, my primary profession is Emergency Medicine.  Over the past few days I have been recovering from an unusually brutal series of shifts.  Work in the ER is always demanding.  There is a continuous, unscheduled influx of patients, some of whom are critically ill, and some who have minor illnesses, and even some who use the ER’s unimpeded access to healthcare professionals as an opportunity to get attention, drugs, avoid jail, or manipulate others.  But some days are harder than others.   In particular, Fridays, Weekends, and Mondays are high volume and high acuity days.  When you are scheduled to work a stretch of shifts that encompasses Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday, you can plan on being pretty crispy when it is all done.  Having completed such a stretch, you often find yourself asking…Why am I doing this?  In the fog of fatigue, it is often difficult to remember the answer.

 

I was reading a passage from Sam Harris’s book The End of Faith that reminded me of the answer.   The passage is as follows:

“Consider it:  every person you have ever met, every person you will pass on the street  today, is going to die.  Living long enough, each will suffer the loss of his friends and family.  All are going to lose everything we love in this world.  Why would one want to be anything but kind to them in the meantime?”

 

There in that passage was the motivator that I had forgotten.  I went into Emergency Medicine to stand in the way of death, particularly premature death, and knowing that I would ultimately fail, to be kind in the meantime.  Buried deeper in this premise, however, is the deeper desire to prolong life.  The art and science of Medicine statistically has been very good at achieving this goal.  But the goal has been achieved on a statistical/epidemiological level.  The average lifespan of an adult male at the turn of the 20th century was 47; by the turn of the 21st century average lifespan had climbed to 76 years.  This increase was not achieved by prolonging the lifespan of the individual, but instead by preventing the premature deaths of large numbers of people.  The biggest impact was a decrease in infant and perinatal mortality.  If you have any historic graveyards in your area, I suggest you visit them (particularly if some nurse midwife has convinced you to have your next child in your living room).  You will find that in many cases up to half the graves belong to infants and mothers who died together during childbirth.  Most men even in the early 20th century would have had several wives before they completed their child bearing years due to the problem of perinatal mortality.  Technological advances as diverse as sewers and cars with crumple zones and air bags have added years to our collective life expectancy by preventing premature death in our cohorts.  But the real goal of mankind has always eluded us.  The goal to reverse aging in the individual is what we really want, but have been unable to achieve.

 

The history of anti-aging is old as mankind.  The Epic of Gilgamesh is probably the earliest known literary work of man.  The basis of the epic is the search for immortality.  Gilgamesh probably ruled during the 3rd millennium BC, and his story was preserved on Clay tablets by Assyrian King Ashurbanipal (who ruled in the 7th century BC).  The story revolves around King Gilgamesh and his best friend Enkidu who go on many dangerous adventures together.  When Enkidu dies on one of these adventures, Gilgamesh’s feelings of loss drive him toward a quest for immortality.  Ancient Chinese emperors sent ships of young men in a quest for a magic pearl that would reverse aging.  Many Chinese believe that in the process of searching for this pearl, these men sewed the seeds of what would become Japan.  In the 16th Century AD Spanish Explorer Juan Ponce de Leon led an expedition through the Caribbean islands and Florida in search for the Fountain of Youth.  During the middle ages Alchemists sought the Philosopher’s Stone which was believed capable of turning lead into gold, as well as prolonging life, and restoring youth.   During the 20th Century, as average lifespan increased, literary works also dealt with the potential complications of life-extension.  One of the major themes in works such as The Mars Trilogy is the extreme boredom that comes with infinite lifespan, or the problem of becoming one’s own ancestor as seen in Robert Heinlein’s Time Enough For Love.

 

During the late 20th century the scientific community took up the cause of Life Extension.  Many theories have been advanced, and promising discoveries have been announced.  The general public has kept close track of these developments, and entire subcultures have lined up behind the various theories of age reversal.  To provide the proper context for this article, we will review some of these theories and how they pan out when tested scientifically.   Information regarding these strategies was obtained from the Wikipedia website (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiaging).

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Re: body by science 1 upps mentzer 6-9 days rest!
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2010, 06:19:34 PM »
1 workout every 7 days! 7-10 for stronger

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anyone try this program?

http://www.bodybyscience.net/home.html/?page_id=43

I tried it but I actually grew shorter? I think the longer rest made me blue shift on the dopler time scale into a smaller version of the universe?

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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2010, 06:21:05 PM »
I tried it but I actually grew shorter? I think the longer rest made me blue shift on the dopler time scale into a smaller version of the universe?

so that makes you what??5 ft 5  now

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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2010, 06:28:23 PM »
Mentzer also stated that you shouldn't be rigid, but insert rest at random. I'm training once every 10-14 and getting bigger and stronger every time... Up from 128lbs 4 years ago where I started at once every 3 days to 220lbs, 12 inch arm to a 18 3/4 inch at the current frequency , can't fault it...some numbers
470 kg leg press with full range including negatives of between 5-10 seconds for 12 reps and a 220kg dead for 9 reps using 2 seconds up, 4 seconds down. Shit is not easy.

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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2010, 06:37:35 PM »
so that makes you what??5 ft 5  now

Hey don't yell! I can hear you fine from down here!

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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2010, 06:43:43 PM »
Hey don't yell! I can hear you fine from down here!

LMAO ;D

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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2010, 06:48:17 PM »

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Re: body by science 1 upps mentzer 6-9 days rest!
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2010, 06:49:05 PM »
Mentzer also stated that you shouldn't be rigid, but insert rest at random. I'm training once every 10-14 and getting bigger and stronger every time... Up from 128lbs 4 years ago where I started at once every 3 days to 220lbs, 12 inch arm to a 18 3/4 inch at the current frequency , can't fault it...some numbers
470 kg leg press with full range including negatives of between 5-10 seconds for 12 reps and a 220kg dead for 9 reps using 2 seconds up, 4 seconds down. Shit is not easy.

Are you using Mike's consolidated routine?

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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2010, 06:52:58 PM »
Are you using Mike's consolidated routine?
Yeah, great stuff. Myself and my 8 or so friends/training partners also use it so I'm never short of a spot on negatives

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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2010, 06:56:00 PM »
once a year workout could be the sweet spot

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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2010, 06:56:27 PM »
Yeah, great stuff. Myself and my 8 or so friends/training partners also use it so I'm never short of a spot on negatives

I bet you're never short of a spot "PJ"

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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2010, 07:01:58 PM »
By accident I was leaving 8 days between workouts. Each workout I got much stronger.

A week is fine providing you eat enbough and train hard enough also.

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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2010, 07:03:21 PM »
By accident I was leaving 8 days between workouts. Each workout I got much stronger.

A week is fine providing you eat enbough and train hard enough also.

Yep, bang on.

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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2010, 07:07:16 PM »
I have gone from 1 set of 8 with 3 plates a side on bench to 2x10 and 1x8 after a few weeks of training hard and resting longer. Yesterday I benched a comfortable-ish 375 after all those sets. MIGHT try 4 plates on Monday or Tuesday depending how I feel after I start my new job.

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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2010, 07:09:13 PM »
once a year workout could be the sweet spot

like I've got time for that... ::)

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Re: body by science 1 upps mentzer 6-9 days rest!
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2010, 10:35:35 PM »
once a year workout could be the sweet spot

u sure thats enuff, u dont wana ovrtrain

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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2010, 11:01:40 PM »
I know some people who train older clients once a week with weights and they thrive on it.

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« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2010, 11:20:49 PM »
I know some old people who train their dogs once a week and thrive on it...

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body by science 1 upps mentzer 6-9 days rest!
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2010, 12:21:24 AM »
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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2010, 12:35:24 AM »
I was a client of Mentzers' in the late 90's, and rested 1 week between workouts. It really works. You add reps each workout like you did when initially starting to train. I had hit a plateau at the time for about 8 years, after gaining for the initial 4. My strength was pretty sad at the time. 225 * 5 on the bench, 90 lbs barbell curls for 7, max deadlift of 335 lbs. Not exactly numbers of a guy who worked out for 12 years.

Even today people assume I'm training 4 days a week, and I just laugh. Nobody believes it. The key is to destroy your sets. Slow, squeeze peak contraction, pump the blood. The key is intense contractions. That's what makes muscles grow. Not cheating with heavy weights you can't handle. If life gets stressful throw in more rest. Add a couple of cardio sessions a week, decent diet and you're both strong and healthy.

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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2010, 01:07:50 AM »
I was a client of Mentzers' in the late 90's, and rested 1 week between workouts. It really works. You add reps each workout like you did when initially starting to train. I had hit a plateau at the time for about 8 years, after gaining for the initial 4. My strength was pretty sad at the time. 225 * 5 on the bench, 90 lbs barbell curls for 7, max deadlift of 335 lbs. Not exactly numbers of a guy who worked out for 12 years.

Even today people assume I'm training 4 days a week, and I just laugh. Nobody believes it. The key is to destroy your sets. Slow, squeeze peak contraction, pump the blood. The key is intense contractions. That's what makes muscles grow. Not cheating with heavy weights you can't handle. If life gets stressful throw in more rest. Add a couple of cardio sessions a week, decent diet and you're both strong and healthy.


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Re: body by science 1 upps mentzer 6-9 days rest!
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2010, 01:21:27 AM »
You already started that one with your tallgerman gimmick, remember?

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« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2010, 12:37:48 AM »
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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2010, 01:17:01 AM »
I was a client of Mentzers' in the late 90's, and rested 1 week between workouts. It really works. You add reps each workout like you did when initially starting to train. I had hit a plateau at the time for about 8 years, after gaining for the initial 4. My strength was pretty sad at the time. 225 * 5 on the bench, 90 lbs barbell curls for 7, max deadlift of 335 lbs. Not exactly numbers of a guy who worked out for 12 years.

Even today people assume I'm training 4 days a week, and I just laugh. Nobody believes it. The key is to destroy your sets. Slow, squeeze peak contraction, pump the blood. The key is intense contractions. That's what makes muscles grow. Not cheating with heavy weights you can't handle. If life gets stressful throw in more rest. Add a couple of cardio sessions a week, decent diet and you're both strong and healthy.

pics?
still gaining?
did u gain weight? or lose? and get harder?
I have fear mentzer stuff causes weight gain

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« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2010, 01:22:12 AM »
I've made and am currently making my best gains by training twice a week and even better 3 times every 8-10 days.  It took me A LONG time getting over the mental roadblock of thinking more is better.  I think it's probably the hardest aspect of training so infrequently.  Mentally you are ready to go but your body still needs the rest.  I think so many guys feel like they will shrink if they don't work out often enough.  I just look around me at the gym and, steroids aside, most of the guys who are in there are just hammering out the same workouts, same sets, same weight, same shit they've been doing for years on end.  Unless they take the drugs they don't grow and don't get stronger.  And there are a lot of little fuckers aka teenagers on steroids at my gym because they don't know how to train to make gains.  It's obvious.  They don't have the patience.