That Calorie is a Calorie Thing

[The True Adonis]

Case in point, i had this dude come up to me in the gym and ask about cardio and nutrition... etc he then went on to tell me that Dexter Jackson doesnt do cardio, so he doesnt think he has to either LOL... fuggin nuckleheads.

He doesn`t have to do cardio, but it has got zero to do with whether Dexter Jackson does it or not.

What I find ironic is that you are calling this guy out for the above statement regarding Cardio, yet I am willing to bet you follow some bullshit Hare-brained diet simply because "Insert Bodybuilder or whomever" eats in this manner.
 

[The True Adonis]

just drink 1500 calories of butter a day, you'll be ripped and huge.

Why would you do that?  I haven`t came across anyone who would do that nor have I ever heard of anyone trying.  Are you really this stupid?

I eat a ton of butter though, thats because I bake everyday.

[Master Blaster]

Why would you do that?  I haven`t came across anyone who would do that nor have I ever heard of anyone trying.  Are you really this stupid?

I eat a ton of butter though, thats because I bake everyday.

Your definition of a "ton of butter" is probably different than mine. I'm guessing your portions are probably smaller than someone like myself is used to.

[Ursus]

TA talks pooh.

He leaned out over a period of 3 years doing his diet plan.

[hazbin]

Why would you do that?  I haven`t came across anyone who would do that nor have I ever heard of anyone trying.  Are you really this stupid?

I eat a ton of butter though, thats because I bake everyday.

no, actually i am quite intelligent. i just trusted your theory, and if a calorie is a calorie, then why not consume what you need in the simplest, most dense form?  bodybuilders typically eat for function, not really enjoying what they consume. so why not save all that food prep time and food costs if it doesn't matter?

[The True Adonis]

I just ate 1300 cals in the last 30 minsutes consiting of Twix's and 'Millions' sweets.

Not bad at all.

I probably had around 1400 just now in General Tso`s Chicken that I fried up, along with some Chinese Style Sticky Rice and Sesame Stir Fried Broccoli.

I am going to bake a cake a bit later tonight and have narrowed it to Upside down Doughnut Cake or Apple Pumpkin Streusel Cake.

[The True Adonis]

no, actually i am quite intelligent. i just trusted your theory, and if a calorie is a calorie, then why not consume what you need in the simplest, most dense form?  bodybuilders typically eat for function, not really enjoying what they consume. so why not save all that food prep time and food costs if it doesn't matter?

If you can work in your love of butter with meeting your Nutritional needs, then have at it.

I just don`t think its palatable unless you are going to bake with it or make a Buttercream Frosting with it.  Perhaps a Pound Cake, Shortbread, Any Buttercream frosting cake, Fruit Double Pie Crust Pie etc... Something along those lines.

And I am HIGHLY suspect of your intellect.

[The True Adonis]

TA talks pooh.

He leaned out over a period of 3 years doing his diet plan.

No.  I have stayed lean since that Mr. Getbig and if you remember, it did not take me long at all to drop all of the fat.  Besides, before the Mr. Getbig I dropped the fat twice before from the same point if you will recall I purposely used to overeat to around 230-240 lbs in order to powerlift and best my 600 lb deadlift, which never happened.  I am glad I got that out of my system.  I have tried typical "bodybuilding" diet methods in the past, years ago. I have journals online you can read where I do not deviate from it at all, and my strength and bodyweight were ALWAYS MUCH LOWER  with the crappy Bodybuilding diet, than when dieting MY WAY.  Do you want to read my old diet journals.  There are some on MuscleMayhem.

Losing fat and retaining a ripped physique is the easiest thing anyone can do.

[Ursus]

You dieted from a big and bloated 234-240. To a lean albeit soft physique on the Mr GB - since then you have stayed the same weight whilst getting a few % leaner.

[Alexander D]

He doesn`t have to do cardio, but it has got zero to do with whether Dexter Jackson does it or not.

What I find ironic is that you are calling this guy out for the above statement regarding Cardio, yet I am willing to bet you follow some bullshit Hare-brained diet simply because "Insert Bodybuilder or whomever" eats in this manner.
 

The cardiovascular benefits of aerobic training have been fully challenged and proven... You are a fucking retard, you look like crap because you eat like crap… and NO i do not eat like a pro bodybuilder on massive amounts of steroids, kid.

[The True Adonis]

The cardiovascular benefits of aerobic training have been fully challenged and proven... You are a fucking retard, you look like crap because you eat like crap… and NO i do not eat like a pro bodybuilder on massive amounts of steroids, kid.

I bet your Getbig account that I look better than you on any given day.  Care to take me up on a challenge?

[StanZoLOL]

And I am HIGHLY suspect of your intellect.

 

[The True Adonis]

You dieted from a big and bloated 234-240. To a lean albeit soft physique on the Mr GB - since then you have stayed the same weight whilst getting a few % leaner.

Correct.  When I dieted the "Bodybuilding diet" way years ago, down to the same level of leanness in the past, My lifts were way less, and my bodyweight was about 15 lbs less than doing it My way.

It was horrible.  

[Alexander D]

I bet your Getbig account that I look better than you on any given day.  Care to take me up on a challenge?

You bet MY getbig account? LOL fag.

[hazbin]

If you can work in your love of butter with meeting your Nutritional needs, then have at it.

I just don`t think its palatable unless you are going to bake with it or make a Buttercream Frosting with it.  Perhaps a Pound Cake, Shortbread, Any Buttercream frosting cake, Fruit Double Pie Crust Pie etc... Something along those lines.

And I am HIGHLY suspect of your intellect.

yah, you're probably right

[The True Adonis]

Your definition of a "ton of butter" is probably different than mine. I'm guessing your portions are probably smaller than someone like myself is used to.

That depends as there is no such thing as a set serving size.  Usually my Serving sizes are around 500-900 calories per food item or per "plate".  Sometimes a bit more, sometimes less.

For instance, if I bake a traditional rather tall and big  2 Layer cake around say 6000 calories, we get around 8 GIANT slices at 750 calories a piece.  Of course you can half that even, ( a size you`d most likely get at a restaurant) if you like.

I usually go for the Big slice, so in that instance my serving size is probably larger than what you are used to.  Jezebelle and I usually finish an entire cake in 2 days or so.

[Ursus]

Correct.  When I dieted the "Bodybuilding diet" way years ago, down to the same level of leanness in the past, My lifts were way less, and my bodyweight was about 15 lbs less than doing it My way.

It was horrible.  

Yes but look how long it took you to diet down.

[The True Adonis]

Yes but look how long it took you to diet down.

Which time?

Usually it was around 4-6 months if I started at 240 lbs or so at an ultra high bodyfat level.

[Ursus]

What do you think was ultra high?

Could you provide pics also. Also what were you lifts after dieting down and current lifts?

[The True Adonis]

What do you think was ultra high?

Could you provide pics also. Also what were you lifts after dieting down and current lifts?

Which time?  My fat pics are all over this site I am sure you have seen them.

[Ursus]

I am sure you can put your hands on them much easier than I could.

Simple request.

[chaos]

That depends as there is no such thing as a set serving size.  Usually my Serving sizes are around 500-900 calories per food item or per "plate".  Sometimes a bit more, sometimes less.

For instance, if I bake a traditional rather tall and big  2 Layer cake around say 6000 calories, we get around 8 GIANT slices at 750 calories a piece.  Of course you can half that even, ( a size you`d most likely get at a restaurant) if you like.

I usually go for the Big slice, so in that instance my serving size is probably larger than what you are used to.  Jezebelle and I usually finish an entire cake in 2 days or so.

So you and Jezzie finish a 6000 calorie cake in 2 days? That's 3000 cals each per day just from cake......that's way more than the amount of cals you are posting about eating. Even at 3 days, that 2000 cals each......something doesn't add up.

[Ursus]

So you and Jezzie finish a 6000 calorie cake in 2 days? That's 3000 cals each per day just from cake......that's way more than the amount of cals you are posting about eating. Even at 3 days, that 2000 cals each......something doesn't add up.

Great post!

[The True Adonis]

So you and Jezzie finish a 6000 calorie cake in 2 days? That's 3000 cals each per day just from cake......that's way more than the amount of cals you are posting about eating. Even at 3 days, that 2000 cals each......something doesn't add up.

It works like this:

Say we bake a cake at 9 PM on Monday.  Right after baking, we each eat a Slice at about 11 PM (cake has to cool hence the 2 hour wait)

Tuesday Morning at 8 or 9 AM: We each have a slice of Cake for Breakfast- At this point the cake is half gone as there are only 4 pieces left and the cake is not even 1 day old.

Wednesday Morning at 8 or 9 am: Cake for breakfast again.  

Thursday Morning Cake for Breakfast again.  This is about the MAX time frame a cake will last us. Just slightly above 48 hours or so.


Sometimes I or she will have 2 slices each day or sometimes we will cut different sizes which effectively SHORTENS the timeline above.  Of course the opposite can be true as well and we can lengthen the time the cake lasts if we want.  Cakes also have totally differing caloric amounts as all cakes are not created equal.

So I hope this helps you in seeing how a Cake lasts us 2 or so days.  (Somehow I don`t think it will help as you probably won`t understand.  Let me know if additional help is needed)

[chaos]

It works like this:

Say we bake a cake at 9 PM on Monday.  Right after baking, we each eat a Slice at about 11 PM (cake has to cool hence the 2 hour wait)

Tuesday Morning at 8 or 9 AM: We each have a slice of Cake for Breakfast- At this point the cake is half gone as there are only 4 pieces left and the cake is not even 1 day old.

Wednesday Morning at 8 or 9 am: Cake for breakfast again.  

Thursday Morning Cake for Breakfast again.  This is about the MAX time frame a cake will last us. Just slightly above 48 hours or so.


Sometimes I or she will have 2 slices each day or sometimes we will cut different sizes which effectively SHORTENS the timeline above.

So I hope this helps you in seeing how a Cake lasts us 2 or so days.  (Somehow I don`t think it will help as you probably won`t understand.  Let me know if additional help is needed)

Monday, Tuesday, wed, thurs..........is 4 days, not "2 or so".....hope this helps.(Somehow I don`t think it will help as you probably won`t understand.  Let me know if additional help is needed)