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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #50 on: October 25, 2010, 06:57:22 AM »
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Again - I provided the friggin link to every carrier in NYS and almost every single one is saying obamaCare is thwe cause for the premiuim increase and further mandates.  Go read it yourself. Or did you think that all of this was going to be for free andf without cost to everyone else?  



BY  THE WAY - OBAMA PROMISED ME A 3000% PREMIUM REDUCTION - WHERE IS IT?    TELL ME MAL - WHERE IS MY RATE DECREASE OBAMA PROMISED?  

 
yeah but......
Im just asking about your increase..the one you came on bitchin about...

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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #51 on: October 25, 2010, 07:00:03 AM »
My raise is admittedly higher than others, and i plan on looking for another carrier - however, ALL OF THE CARRIERS ARE RAISING THEIR RATES AND CLAIMING THAT OBAMACARE IS PARTY TO BLAME DUE TO INCREASED MANDATES! 

Did you read the link I provided? 


And lastly - did Obama lie in that clip or was this another gross miscalculation on his part about the effects of the programs he pushes? 

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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #52 on: October 25, 2010, 07:01:31 AM »

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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #53 on: October 25, 2010, 07:07:04 AM »
My raise is admittedly higher than others, and i plan on looking for another carrier - however, ALL OF THE CARRIERS ARE RAISING THEIR RATES AND CLAIMING THAT OBAMACARE IS PARTY TO BLAME DUE TO INCREASED MANDATES! 

Did you read the link I provided? 


And lastly - did Obama lie in that clip or was this another gross miscalculation on his part about the effects of the programs he pushes? 

So you just came on here and spewed a load of shit..

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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #54 on: October 25, 2010, 07:12:11 AM »
So you just came on here and spewed a load of shit..

No, I came to the conclusion that the rate increase I got is higher than most based on my reading all of the other letters from the carriers this morning.  However, just because say 50% of the increase is attributred to Obamacare does not make it any less aggravating.  I was promised a $2500 yearly reduction by Obama. 


Again - read the letters from the other carriers - they all mirror each other. 

The increases are directly attributed to expanded manadates due to obamacare.    So of the 305 increase i am slated for, even if its 15% as a result of obamacare - its still shitty and maddening considering the I expressly promised the opposite would occur. 

I posted the clip of the promise no? 
 

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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #55 on: October 25, 2010, 07:21:46 AM »
No, I came to the conclusion that the rate increase I got is higher than most based on my reading all of the other letters from the carriers this morning.  However, just because say 50% of the increase is attributred to Obamacare does not make it any less aggravating.  I was promised a $2500 yearly reduction by Obama. 


Again - read the letters from the other carriers - they all mirror each other. 

The increases are directly attributed to expanded manadates due to obamacare.    So of the 305 increase i am slated for, even if its 15% as a result of obamacare - its still shitty and maddening considering the I expressly promised the opposite would occur. 

I posted the clip of the promise no? 
 
How do you know 50% was from HealthCare Reform...Where did you get the numbers and can you share the breakdown with US?

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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #56 on: October 25, 2010, 07:28:23 AM »
How do you know 50% was from HealthCare Reform...Where did you get the numbers and can you share the breakdown with US?


Because i looked at all of the other carriers and they are averging about 15% increase due to obamacare mandates.  Some more, some less.

again - I posted the link, go check it out.   

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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #57 on: October 25, 2010, 07:30:19 AM »
Mal YES OR NO - DID OBAMA LIE?














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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #58 on: October 25, 2010, 07:51:01 AM »
Updated: Mon., Oct. 25, 2010, 4:41 AM 
A Democrat-killer
By JEFFREY H. ANDERSON
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Above all else, the coming election is about ObamaCare.

Democrats wish it were about the economy. Polls show that voters still blame the downturn more on President George W. Bush than on President Obama or the Democratic Congress. Sure, the Democrats haven't turned the economy around, but things also haven't gotten markedly worse. How could they face historic losses over an economic situation that voters think they inherited more than they created?

It's this point -- sensible in a vacuum -- that presumably has led The New York Times to maintain across months -- and as late as last week -- that if House races simply kept leaning the way they were leaning, the Democrats would hold Congress. The Times' prognosticators couldn't fathom why anything else would so anger voters, so they assumed that the Democrats would survive.

That was a fantasy. The Democrats have lost independents. The latest Rasmussen generic congressional-ballot poll shows independents favoring Republicans over Democrats by (gulp) 17 percentage points. And Republicans are motivated, while Democrats aren't. According to American University researcher Curtis Gans, in this year's primaries, GOP turnout surpassed Democratic turnout for the first time since the Hoover administration -- and by a wide margin: 57 percent to 43 percent.

What could be generating such a historic enthusiasm gap between the parties while also causing so many independents to jump ship from the Democrats? Federal spending, federal debt, federal indifference to popular desires -- all of which is captured in one word: ObamaCare.

The evidence is clear. Look at House districts where you'd expect a Democrat to be vulnerable -- districts that, based on results in the last three presidential elections, lean Republican or lean Democratic by no more than 5 percentage points. In 48 such districts where polls are available, a Democrat is running for re-election.

Based on the Real Clear Politics averages for those polls, Democrats who voted against ObamaCare are now ahead in 10 of 15 races (leading by an average of 5.5 percentage points) while Democrats who voted for ObamaCare lead in just 9 of 33 races (losing by an average of 2.5 points).

So even though more than twice as many pro-ObamaCare Democrats are running in these districts, more anti-ObamaCare Democrats are winning.

And that's even though Democrats who opposed ObamaCare are running where it's much harder for a Democrat to win. Among these 48, the Dems who voted for ObamaCare are running in districts that are far friendlier, averaging only +4 Republican, while the average anti-ObamaCare Democrat faces a district that's +13 Republican.

None of this can be explained by the economy or by other controversial votes. Essentially, all of these Democrats (45 of 48) supported the economic "stimulus." And the 30 who voted for cap and trade are winning in 40 percent of their races, while the 18 who voted against it are winning in 44 percent of their races -- essentially no difference and a far cry from the split we see with ObamaCare.

The campaigns have figured this out. Politico reported last month that candidates were spending seven times as much on ads attacking ObamaCare as on ads defending it -- and even Democratic campaigns' ads were 3-to-1 against. By the first half of this month, the overall ratio had swung to 20 to 1.

Two unique polls further substantiate what's going on here. An Independent Women's Voice poll asked independents whether any issue would keep them from supporting candidates with whom they agree "on all other issues." Among the choices were "national security," "taxes," "immigration," "putting a mosque near Ground Zero" and "the stimulus and bailouts." The issue that voters most strongly demanded that candidates get right was "health-care reform." (The Ground Zero mosque was second.)

Moreover, a Democratic poll offered respondents the unusual chance to provide open-ended responses indicating why they disapprove of Obama's performance. Their freely chosen words were then tallied. "Economy" and "money" were among the key words frequently used, but the two most frequent -- used more than twice as often as any others -- were "health care."

Even when voters emphasize the economy, they generally do so in a way that very much involves ObamaCare. Voters aren't so much angry that their representatives haven't fixed the economy but that they haven't prioritized the economy -- that they passed a $787 billion "stimulus" that merely stimulated the National Debt Clock and then turned their attention to what they cared about most: passing a huge health-care entitlement that a clear majority of Americans opposed.

Now the voters will get to make their priorities known to the Democrats who thought they could get away with openly defying their constituents' wishes.

Jeffrey H. Anderson is a Pacific Research Institute senior fellow.



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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #59 on: October 25, 2010, 07:58:10 AM »

Because i looked at all of the other carriers and they are averging about 15% increase due to obamacare mandates.  Some more, some less.

again - I posted the link, go check it out.   

What was the %age your carrier attributed to Obamacare?

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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #60 on: October 25, 2010, 08:04:23 AM »
What was the %age your carrier attributed to Obamacare?

They didnt list a percentage.  I am dropping them anyway and trying to get on a group plan via the bar association or some other group. 

I have a client who can get me on their plan and issue me a W2 for the amount - the end result will still be a hell of a lot less than paying as a small business/solo - although everyones rates are skyrocketing. 

My GF's office just got a 21% increase last week and were told the same thing I was. 

Mal - you can poo poo what i am saying all you want - but ObamaCare is causing premiuims increases everywhere across the board and all but the most die hard obama supporters realize we have been lied to, robbed, and cheated. 

This is why next week - the Obama agenda is effectively over. 

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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #61 on: October 25, 2010, 08:05:55 AM »
I tried attaching it but the site does not let me post PDF.


Here is a copy of something similar I just got today. 
 

http://www.ins.state.ny.us/health/prior_app/notices_102010/10122010_Atlantis_Notice_all.pdf

Since we have 3 employees, and one gets her insurance through family - we are under HMO - Sole Proprietor 


I am going to take a shit on the letter we got and send it to obama. 



That's fucking crazy...

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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #62 on: October 25, 2010, 08:10:03 AM »
That's fucking crazy...


Everyones' rates in business are skyrocketing.   My clients are averaging 20 -25%. 

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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #63 on: October 25, 2010, 08:13:15 AM »
Mal - what do you make of this? 


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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #64 on: October 25, 2010, 03:18:58 PM »
So you just came on here and spewed a load of shit..

Well of course.  Normal behavior for him.  And then when cornered about his bullshit... his reply is :


Mal YES OR NO - DID OBAMA LIE?


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A liar like yourself shouldn't be throwing rock in that tiny little glass house.

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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #65 on: October 25, 2010, 03:25:55 PM »
you're really cracking up again...the meds are not working any more I see.....

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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #66 on: October 25, 2010, 05:04:13 PM »
Did you scan and post your leTTer yet?

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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #67 on: October 25, 2010, 06:09:56 PM »
Its the same as the link I posted.  BTW - did you read all the similar letters from the other carriers also seeking massive rate hikes?   They all point to added mandates under obamacare causing these rate hikes.  I have posted endless articles confirmiung this as well. 

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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #68 on: October 25, 2010, 07:58:54 PM »
Its the same as the link I posted.  BTW - did you read all the similar letters from the other carriers also seeking massive rate hikes?   They all point to added mandates under obamacare causing these rate hikes.  I have posted endless articles confirmiung this as well. 
I know,  but you said you received a letter and youbwere going to post it.

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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #69 on: October 25, 2010, 08:04:41 PM »
I know,  but you said you received a letter and youbwere going to post it.

Its exactly the same as the one at the link - I personal info on it, but its nearly exat to the one I posted with the 32% increase since I considered in that group. 

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« Reply #70 on: October 25, 2010, 08:07:34 PM »
Its exactly the same as the one at the link - I personal info on it, but its nearly exat to the one I posted with the 32% increase since I considered in that group. 
So black the info out and post it.

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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #71 on: October 25, 2010, 08:09:30 PM »
So black the info out and post it.

Ill try tommorow - I scanned it but did not convert it.  Its the same exact one as at the link. 

Either way - I am going to look for another carrier or seek coverage via through a trade org or something like that. 

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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #72 on: October 26, 2010, 05:15:56 AM »
Updated: Tue., Oct. 26, 2010, 12:49 AM 
The creeping chill of ObamaCare
By MARK K. SIEGEL


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I Can feel ObamaCare closing in.

It starts with small things. Consider a patient I'll call Jane, a corporate executive in her mid 40s. She's happy with her current health coverage -- a high-deductible policy paired with a Flexible Spending Account that can cover up to $3,000 a year in routine expenses, which she uses to pay for much of her medical care.

Other than her yearly screening check-up, Jane doesn't come in to see me unless she's really sick. An occasional bout of bronchitis prompts a brief visit, where I prescribe her a short course of antibiotics. Otherwise she uses her FSA to buy Tylenol and Advil over-the-counter for an occasional headache, insect repellant for summers in her backyard and Prevacid for an infrequent case of heartburn.

But, starting Jan. 1, Jane won't be able to use her flex-spend account to cover OTC remedies without getting a prescription first. That's right: She'll need a prescription for non-prescription drugs -- a waste of her time, and mine. Otherwise, she has to pay a 20 percent penalty for using the account to buy exactly the sort of things it was designed to cover.

She's not alone: I have 20-plus patients facing this pointless restriction on their flex-spend or Health Savings accounts. Nationwide, more than 30 million workers with FSAs and 10 million others with HSAs are all in the same boat.

Do the congressmen who passed the health-reform law seriously expect me to somehow find the time to prescribe laxatives, antacids, creams for insect bites and hemorrhoids and so on for these patients? Or are they just looking to render that coverage worthless?

There's much worse to come. Also on Jan. 1, the cuts to Medicare Advantage start kicking in -- $140 billion in lost federal funding. I don't yet know how many of my patients will lose the dental, eye and comprehensive prescription-drug coverage that these policies provide.

The burdens keep piling up, bit by bit, over the next three years. I'm really worried about 2014: That's when the new Independent Medicare Advisory Board starts restricting the essential services I can provide the more than half my patients who have Medicare. Since the "reform" cut hundreds of billions from Medicare, something's going to have to give.

Then there's the issue Dr. Scott Gottlieb pointed out recently on these pages ("Killing Marcus Welby," Oct. 18): The reform law is also designed to push my patients -- and me -- into an HMO-style arrangement, even if they've renamed these behemoths "Accountable Care Organizations." We're not supposed to find a way around all the restrictions -- we're supposed to give up, and start following the orders of the president's preferred experts.

As more of the "reform" law takes hold, the daily practice of medicine will grow more and more difficult for both doctors and patients. Premiums are already rising and services are diminishing.

Several of my patients have found that their policies are changing and no longer cover their medications. Their referrals are restricted to narrow networks of specialists even as their co-pays and deductibles rise.


Others have lost their jobs but still have too much income to qualify for Medicaid and don't yet qualify for the high-risk pools. I see many of these patients for free, but they can't afford the tests I want to order.

It's hard for me to believe that President Obama has spent any time in a real doctor's office. He can claim that he hasn't succeeded in getting his message across, or that fear clouds our thinking -- but when it comes to health care, most Americans understand his message and just don't agree with it.

And, having written a book on fear, I can tell you that fear is an appropriate response to ObamaCare as it plays out in my examination room.

Marc Siegel is a practicing internist in New York and a Fox News medical contributor.

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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #73 on: October 26, 2010, 05:26:52 AM »
Cough up more for health benefits
In Houston, employees' health insurance will increase 12 percent in 2011
By L.M. SIXEL
HOUSTON CHRONICLE
Oct. 25, 2010, 11:27PM


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Raises may be small and bonuses a distant memory of better times, but one workplace number isn't frozen: Employees can expect a double-digit percentage increase next year in the cost of health insurance they get through the office.

This year's health care overhaul combined with other factors will push the average cost per Houston employee to $4,946 next year — 12 percent more than this year — according to Aon Hewitt, a human resource consulting firm that tracks medical costs. The figure includes insurance premiums and insurance-related expenses such as co-pays and deductibles.

The firm surveyed 350 large employers nationwide, including 99 with offices in Houston.

The projected cost for Houston is $560 more than the U.S. average for 2011, according to Aon Hewitt. More than $500 of that difference stems from higher co-pays and deductibles for Houstonians.

Area residents pay higher out-of-pocket costs than workers in other cities partly because there are fewer unions in Houston to bargain benefits, said DeLayne Etheridge, a principal at Aon Hewitt who specializes in health care. Union members tend to pay less in co-pays and deductibles because of collective bargaining.

Also pushing local costs upward is Houston's higher-than-average proportion of residents without health insurance. Those who are insured often subsidize, through higher premiums, the cost of emergency room and other medical treatment for those who aren't.

Also, Etheridge said, Houston's world-class teaching and medical facilities provide higher-quality care, which carries a higher price.

Etheridge estimates provisions of the new health care law that already have taken effect — requirements such as allowing dependent children to stay on a parent's policy until age 26 and dropping the lifetime maximum for essential benefits — accounts for 1 percent to 2 percent of the overall increase.

Mercer, another human resources consulting firm, puts the figure at 2.3 percent.

Employers to pay more

It's not just employees who are feeling the squeeze of higher health care expenses. Businesses also face rising health bills.

Companies in Houston are looking at a tab of $10,221 to cover each employee next year, up 8.7 percent from 2010, according to Aon Hewitt. That figure represents an average of all plan types and includes both employee-paid and employer-paid insurance premiums or expected expenses for companies that self-insure.

HISD's two-tier plan

The Houston Independent School District is facing a 6 percent increase in costs for 2011, said Brad Bailey, general manager of employee benefits. After five years of keeping the lid on premiums, rising health care costs have caught up with the district, which insures 18,300 employees and their 8,300 dependents, he said.

To get better control over the biggest expenses — hospitalization, complicated tests, specialty drugs and some forms of chemotherapy — HISD divided its basic insurance plan into two tiers. Employees who agree to use lower-cost providers will pay less than those who use specialty hospitals.

Under the Tier 1 plan, employees who get care through Memorial Hermann Healthcare System, St. Luke's Episcopal Health System or Texas Children's Hospital will be responsible for 20 percent of their bills after paying a $1,750 deductible for individuals and $3,500 for families.

Tier 2 includes Methodist Hospital and M.D. Anderson Cancer Center. Employees who use those facilities will pay 35 percent after meeting a $2,000 deductible for individuals and $4,000 for families.

And while premiums stayed steady, school district employees will have to pay more out-of-pocket, including a new emergency room fee and a new deductible for prescription drugs.

Teachers are livid, said Joanna Pasternak, staff representative of the Houston Federation of Teachers, which has 7,100 members who sat on the HISD benefits committee until recently. The union walked out when HISD stopped allowing the union to participate in negotiating health care benefits.

"They want to be able to go to M.D. Anderson," said Pasternak, who said she wouldn't be alive today if she hadn't received treatment there.

Mike Barbour, partner in the health and benefits practice at Mercer in Houston, said many companies are turning to an option in the new legislation that allows them to delay new coverage mandates if they don't make substantive changes in plan design or raise employee costs beyond a certain level.

More than half of 1,091 employers that responded to a recent Mercer survey said they plan to use this grandfather provision to defer new benefit requirements such as full coverage for preventive services, including vaccines, mammograms, colonoscopies and full blood work-ups, said Barbour.

While the health care law has driven up costs, the sluggish economy is a bigger issue for many companies, he said. They don't have much of a financial cushion.

Audits, surcharges

It's not a trend yet, but Barbour said some companies are moving toward charging for each covered person when pricing health care. An employee covering a family of five, for example, would pay more than one covering only a spouse.

Etheridge said more employers are auditing to determine if dependents are eligible for coverage. Aon Hewitt estimates that more than 10 percent aren't — because, for example, a child lacks a legal relationship to the employee, or the employee isn't really married to a person claimed as a spouse.

Some companies also are adding surcharges for employees' working spouses to encourage the spouses to enroll in their own employers' plans, Etheridge said.

And companies are focusing more on employee wellness programs, said Christopher Fisher, chief innovation officer for BenefitSpecialists in Houston, which designs health insurance plans for its small and midsize clients.

Investing in walking programs, gym memberships and medical screenings is a long-term strategy, however, and is a challenge in this tough economic climate, Fisher said. It typically doesn't pay off immediately, but if employees with high blood pressure and high cholesterol can be diagnosed and treated early, a company can prevent a $50,000 to $70,000 heart attack or stroke.

One client, a nonprofit with 50 employees, launched a comprehensive wellness effort after it was hit with several years of double-digit health insurance increases. The results are in: a 5.5 percent reduction in premiums next year, Fisher said.

lm.sixel@chron.com

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Re: I REALLY F$%^ING HATE OBAMA AND THE LEFT - HONESTLY - HE SHOULD GFH!!
« Reply #74 on: October 26, 2010, 10:41:20 AM »
In other words, you lied and won't be posting shit.  Except excuses.  One should know when you scan something the default option is .jpg anyway.

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