UFC 121 - This that pisses me off about MMA

[The_Hammer]

Royce Gracie was the man back then.....no gay weight limit and he was smoking guys who outweighed him by 50-75lbs on a regular basis.

Royce wouldn't last 1 round in modern MMA.

[The Showstoppa]

Royce wouldn't last 1 round in modern MMA.

Hell, he's about 50 now, so I suppose not. 

Put him in his prime and I would take that wager any day of the week.

[The_Hammer]

Hell, he's about 50 now, so I suppose not. 

Put him in his prime and I would take that wager any day of the week.

Actually he's 44 and he couldn't even beat Ken Shamrock or finish Nobohiko Takada 10 years ago.  Gracie Jiu-Jitsu in modern MMA is worthless.  BJJ is better.

[Coach is Back!]

Actually he's 44 and he couldn't even beat Ken Shamrock or finish Nobohiko Takada 10 years ago.  Gracie Jiu-Jitsu in modern MMA is worthless.  BJJ is better.

Wrestling is better than both.

[MichaelScottDM]

It's kinda like this, he won on his ground game, his ground game is absolutely ridiculous. kampmann would keep on getting him in submission holds and Shields, no matter what the hold kept on getting out of them, on the other hand kampmann has a great stand up and Shields knew it..so keep him on the ground, in the last minutes of the third, Shields had him down to the point kampmann couldn't move. Shields won on with his ground game. Just because someone is bleeding doesn't mean they won.

Last year when my fighter Jay Silva fought CB Dollaway in Oklahoma, CB won on take downs and wrestling skills the first 2 rounds, in the 3rd Jay beat the f**k out him with punches and two flying knees that connected to the face. Dollaway was f**ked up royally but was able to finish the and won in the first two rounds with take downs. Dollaway had to be carried out the ring, suffered a concussion and had to get 32 stitches above his eye, Jay had NO marks on him yet lost in decision.

Do you still work with Silva? Last i remember he got demolished by Lombard, no real shock there as the guy is a legit top 5 MW

[Coach is Back!]

Do you still work with Silva? Last i remember he got demolished by Lombard, no real shock there as the guy is a legit top 5 MW

Yes, well...sorta. it's a love/hate relationship..some days I feel sorry for him and take him back other days we train and other days we won't speak for weeks because he knows I'm pissed at him, right now I'm pissed at him. As for Lombard, me, Anthony Johnson and Kongo told him not to take the fight but he "needed the money" so we dropped him down 22lbs in 2 days, didn't make the 185 so they let him fight at a catch weight of 190. We knew he wouldn't win because Lombard was on an 18-0 win streak....but shit, to get ko'd in 6 seconds.......

[spinnis]

No...Dana White was pissed and took away Shields title shot.

coach stop making up stuff.

Dana has said a bunch of times AFTER the fight.

"I dont think any less of shields after the fight then I do now" and didnt mention at all that the title fight if off. Or do you have a source. my source is his own words in the interview with ariel after the event and the press conference.

[spinnis]

I couldn't believe that either, Kempmann kicked his ass, kept getting him down, got strikes on him, shields wasn't doing shit except gassing and hanging on, HOW THE F*CK DOES HE WIN !!?!?!?!?!?!

dana gave the ref a nice bonus in his pay...fcking bullshit

Kampmann threw the fight. He should have LET HIS HANDS GO. I know he was afraid about getting traken down, but when it happened sheilds was too fucking tired to do anything anyway (a non 20pound cut in one day sheilds would have subbed him within the first round imo) So why the FUCK didnt he try and KO him. His striking is ALOT better the sheilds.

[LatsMcGee]

I thought Jake looked horrible from the second round on but I gave him the first and third rounds pretty easy.  I could see the judges giving Martin the 2nd round but nothing more than that.

Jake belongs at 185.  Dana wants him at 170 because he doesn't need a wheel of rematches in the WW division with GSP.  After GSP beats Koscheck I don't want to see him beat Jon Fitch again, or Thiago or Matt Hughes.  

[Captain Equipoise]

I thought Jake looked horrible from the second round on but I gave him the first and third rounds pretty easy.  I could see the judges giving Martin the 2nd round but nothing more than that.

Jake belongs at 185.  Dana wants him at 170 because he doesn't need a wheel of rematches in the WW division with GSP.  After GSP beats Koscheck I don't want to see him beat Jon Fitch again, or Thiago or Matt Hughes.  

Still, 30-27 is absolutely ridiculous..

[spinnis]

Still, 30-27 is absolutely ridiculous..

mma juding is crazy.

ESPECIALLY somneone names "cecil peoples" the fact that he is still ALLOED to judge after all his RETARDED results I cant understand.

3 judges, two have is 30-27 30- 27 and then cecil 29-28 to the Other guy, almost every damn time haha

[The Showstoppa]

3 judges, two have is 30-27 30- 27 and then cecil 29-28 to the Other guy, almost every damn time haha

Perhaps Cecil can't count to 30?

[spinnis]

Perhaps Cecil can't count to 30?

good point. while looking at him that might be the case

[Stark]

MMA existed in the 90s?  

oh, and correct me if i'm wrong, but i think theres an MMA board

stop bitching - MMA/ is BB related