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[Soul Crusher]

Well loads were stuffed in boats on the way over, and died along the way millions actually.

The big difference is who`s more evil. A country that is in full knowledge of fucking a group of people over for centuries, and don`t stop until the 1960`s.

Or a country, where a few unelected nutcase criminals, exterminate a group of people without permission from the people nor does it go own for nears as long as slavery.

Lets us not forget america and canada had concentration caps in ww2 aswell .

Keep it up - this gets better and better.   

[tu_holmes]

Well loads were stuffed in boats on the way over, and died along the way millions actually.

The big difference is who`s more evil. A country that is in full knowledge of fucking a group of people over for centuries, and don`t stop until the 1960`s.

Or a country, where a few unelected nutcase criminals, exterminate a group of people without permission from the people nor does it go own for nears as long as slavery.

Lets us not forget america and canada had concentration caps in ww2 aswell .

Anyone who brings up slavery to justify genocide is ridiculous.

You can not compare the two. Was slavery bad? Of course... No one should be subjected to it, but that hasn't stopped people in Asia or Africa from still having slaves to this day.

The white slave trade is still in full effect, but I'm not going to compare it to the holocaust.

How about the shit that was going on in Bosnia? Darfur?

You want to compare those to the holocaust? There will always be loonies, but in the United States of America, they decided that shit was wrong, so they stopped it.

Let's not forget that the area known as Canada had slaves well into the 1830s.

[Lundgren]

You guys know I have a pretty strong point, every western culture has fucked severly with  one group or another. The holocaust was a scape goat for white people. Sure we fuck people up but we never put them in gas chambers

I`d rather be a jew and take the 50 50 chance of being dead, versus, a native where 90 percent change of dieing of disease, and that 99 percent chance that all my ancestor would be eternally fucked for generations.

[Soul Crusher]

You guys know I have a pretty strong point, every western culture has fucked severly with  one group or another. The holocaust was a scape goat for white people. Sure we fuck people up but we never put them in gas chambers

I`d rather be a jew and take the 50 50 chance of being dead, versus, a native where 90 percent change of dieing of disease, and that 99 percent chance that all my ancestor would be eternally fucked for generations.

Keep it up bro - this is classic and will be used for later owning. 

[Lundgren]

Anyone who brings up slavery to justify genocide is ridiculous.

You can not compare the two. Was slavery bad? Of course... No one should be subjected to it, but that hasn't stopped people in Asia or Africa from still having slaves to this day.

The white slave trade is still in full effect, but I'm not going to compare it to the holocaust.

How about the shit that was going on in Bosnia? Darfur?

You want to compare those to the holocaust? There will always be loonies, but in the United States of America, they decided that shit was wrong, so they stopped it.

Let's not forget that the area known as Canada had slaves well into the 1830s.

For the record what canada did to natives was way the fuck worst than blacks. Molestation rape, and abuse were rampant onto natives. EXTRMELY actually.

Of course Darfur rawanada amerian genocide, japanese war acts were fucking awful that`s my point. Let us not forget the loads of acts that the british french portuguese spanish and belgian did (look up king leopolds plan for congo.

Anyone who brings up slavery to justify genocide is ridiculous.
 This is my point. You guys bring up the genocide to scapegoat slavery. That`s the fucking problem.

What bothers you more a few corrupt generals that go crazy and start murdering, or a few million people that see nothing wrong with slavery. Of course you fixed it way to late but you did, we all got crimes.

[Lundgren]

Keep it up bro - this is classic and will be used for later owning. 

I stand by what I said what happen to natives was fucking awful, you americans would know that if you had any left.

[tu_holmes]

For the record what canada did to natives was way the fuck worst than blacks. Molestation rape, and abuse were rampant onto natives. EXTRMELY actually.

Of course Darfur rawanada amerian genocide, japanese war acts were fucking awful that`s my point. Let us not forget the loads of acts that the british french portuguese spanish and belgian did (look up king leopolds plan for congo.

Anyone who brings up slavery to justify genocide is ridiculous.
 This is my point. You guys bring up the genocide to scapegoat slavery. That`s the fucking problem.

What bothers you more a few corrupt generals that go crazy and start murdering, or a few million people that see nothing wrong with slavery. Of course you fixed it way to late but you did, we all got crimes.

Sorry man... I don't see that at all.

You brought up slavery... No one else.  It's been 150 years, it's time to let it go.

The holocaust was horrendous, but I'm all for letting that shit go too. Don't forget, but don't sit around and harp on it all the time, it's been 70 years, it's time to move on.

I didn't read your post on the general board, so I can't comment, but I'm definitely thinking that you need to let it go.

[tu_holmes]

I stand by what I said what happen to natives was fucking awful, you americans would know that if you had any left.

The US has quite a few natives... Who get EVERYTHING they want.

See, the Native American is probably the most cared for, given everything group of people out there.

I'm not against it, but that's a fact. Their reservations are sovereign territories where the US government has no say. They pay taxes in the form of a turkey once a year or something and they are educated 100 percent for free.

I'd say the US tries to make up for it's mistakes every day.

[Soul Crusher]

The US has quite a few natives... Who get EVERYTHING they want.

See, the Native American is probably the most cared for, given everything group of people out there.

I'm not against it, but that's a fact. Their reservations are sovereign territories where the US government has no say. They pay taxes in the form of a turkey once a year or something and they are educated 100 percent for free.

I'd say the US tries to make up for it's mistakes every day.

Tu:   Have you ever heard about the Pigford matter with the USDA? 

[dario73]

WOE. To assume that the intent of the colonists was to kill off blacks before they got to the mainland and that somehow that was the same as the intent of the Nazis to destroy a WHOLE race via concentration camps is utterly ridiculous.

Maybe you can point out another political state in the 20th or 21st century that has made it its national policy to exterminate a whole race to the extent of the Nazis. If you can, then you can gripe about the remembrance of the holocaust.

[Lundgren]

Sorry man... I don't see that at all.

You brought up slavery... No one else.  It's been 150 years, it's time to let it go.

The holocaust was horrendous, but I'm all for letting that shit go too. Don't forget, but don't sit around and harp on it all the time, it's been 70 years, it's time to move on.

I didn't read your post on the general board, so I can't comment, but I'm definitely thinking that you need to let it go.

Your not getting the context of the comment. I`m all about letting go. But please do it in the correct order. Segragation ended in the 60`s, the british empire ended in the 60`s, Canada`s poor treatment of native has ended since the 80`s, same with aussie`s and abo`s, .

Nazi germany ended in 45. I not saying the holocaust wasn`t bad. It`s history now, the youngest person that could of helped in the act legally is now 83. My point is in the grand scheme of world history, The holocaust was an expected return to the global norm, for the germans, not an isolated inccident that only speakers of german could do.

[tu_holmes]

Tu:   Have you ever heard about the Pigford matter with the USDA?  

I believe I read about that... wasn't that where the black farmers who tried to get loans and couldn't during more "racially tense" times received like 50K per person?

The US is always trying to right itself.

I love how people always want to talk about the Evils of America, yet always come asking the US for help when shit hits the fan. Hell, even Lundgren gets the benefit of being America's neighbor and receiving the benefit of protection that goes along with it along with economic stimulus from US companies.

[Soul Crusher]

Your not getting the context of the comment. I`m all about letting go. But please do it in the correct order. Segragation ended in the 60`s, the british empire ended in the 60`s, Canada`s poor treatment of native has ended since the 80`s, same with aussie`s and abo`s, .

Nazi germany ended in 45. I not saying the holocaust wasn`t bad. It`s history now, the youngest person that could of helped in the act legally is now 83. My point is in the grand scheme of world history, The holocaust was an expected return to the global norm, for the germans, not an isolated inccident that only speakers of german could do.

You really are demented. 

"expected return to the global norm"   ? ? ? ? 

[The Showstoppa]

You guys know I have a pretty strong point, every western culture has fucked severly with  one group or another. The holocaust was a scape goat for white people. Sure we fuck people up but we never put them in gas chambers

I`d rather be a jew and take the 50 50 chance of being dead, versus, a native where 90 percent change of dieing of disease, and that 99 percent chance that all my ancestor would be eternally fucked for generations.

haha, you think 90% of north american indians "dieng (ed) of disease?"  And why are there ancestors fucked?  Please enlighten me....

[Lundgren]

WOE. To assume that the intent of the colonists was to kill off blacks before they got to the mainland and that somehow that was the same as the intent of the Nazis to destroy a WHOLE race via concentration camps is utterly ridiculous.

Maybe you can point out another political state in the 20th or 21st century that has made it its national policy to exterminate a whole race to the extent of the Nazis. If you can, then you can gripe about the remembrance of the holocaust.

Read some history books my friend. It wasn`t the official plan to exteriminate the jews it was for them to be removed(assumed deported) from germany. Of course hitler and his generals took things into there own hands. Just look into how hitler recruited himmler(straight sociopath). This is what happens when the mentally ill get power.

You can say all you want the intentions of imperial or slave governments weren`t to fuck people up, but that was the same results again and again over the last few hundred years. Things can only go so far.

Please look up the history of the congo and king leopold, the atlantic slave trade, death of native americans, Armenian genocide, Stalins goulags, Japanese war crimes, how slavery worked before cameras , Cecil roads and his conquest against native africans(that one is a little enteraining I must say. And the geneocide that happened after the partion of india.

[Fury]

Hello AXA. You tried this same exact song and dance about a year and a half ago. Still trying to play the "evil American slavery" bullshit?

Here's a little hint: It was your Muslim brethren that enabled the slave trade and it's the Muslim world that still practices it and refuses to condemn it to this day.

[Lundgren]

haha, you think 90% of north american indians "dieng (ed) of disease?"  And why are there ancestors fucked?  Please enlighten me....

Lol Please goto northern labrador, that`s south of greenland. Rape and molestation were the norm among natives from whites, Priest really had there fun converting those little brown bumed savages. 90 percent is the common number that is agreed on. Not to mention the million that starved because we took there land, or the millions that were bread out of existance due to rape.

[Fury]

Lol Please goto northern labrador, that`s south of greenland. Rape and molestation were the norm among natives from whites, Priest really had there fun converting those little brown bumed savages. 90 percent is the common number that is agreed on. Not to mention the million that starved because we took there land, or the millions that were bread out of existance due to rape.

Why don't you get off the stolen Indian land that you're living on then? Go back to Iran.

Self-loathing people who piss and moan about the Indian situation while living on stolen Indian land are some of the biggest hypocrites out there.

[dario73]

Not only that. Nazis were killing not only Jews, but anyone with physical defects and ailmant, homosexuals, anyone who wasn't like them. Of Aryan blood. If they would have won. It would have been just a matter of time before they tried to destroy the Japanese, all Asians and Italians.  Somehow, the colonists and slavery are just no where near that lunacy.  But, thanks for trying to compare both when common sense should tell you is no where near the same.

[Soul Crusher]

Read some history books my friend. It wasn`t the official plan to exteriminate the jews it was for them to be removed(assumed deported) from germany. Of course hitler and his generals took things into there own hands. Just look into how hitler recruited himmler(straight sociopath). This is what happens when the mentally ill get power.

You can say all you want the intentions of imperial or slave governments weren`t to fuck people up, but that was the same results again and again over the last few hundred years. Things can only go so far.

Please look up the history of the congo and king leopold, the atlantic slave trade, death of native americans, Armenian genocide, Stalins goulags, Japanese war crimes, how slavery worked before cameras , Cecil roads and his conquest against native africans(that one is a little enteraining I must say. And the geneocide that happened after the partion of india.

ha ha ha ha - are you freaking kidding?  

[Lundgren]

Hello AXA. You tried this same exact song and dance about a year and a half ago. Still trying to play the "evil American slavery" bullshit?

Here's a little hint: It was your Muslim brethren that enabled the slave trade and it's the Muslim world that still practices it and refuses to condemn it to this day.

No I`m saying humans are evil it`s our state of mind. we don`t go outright and kill people, but we find ways, to get thing done.

Just a question, but how many Iraquis have died of starvation due to the war. Please due this without quoting how bad Saddam was, for millions they rather have him with peace than you guys with war.

[Soul Crusher]

I believe I read about that... wasn't that where the black farmers who tried to get loans and couldn't during more "racially tense" times received like 50K per person?

The US is always trying to right itself.

I love how people always want to talk about the Evils of America, yet always come asking the US for help when shit hits the fan. Hell, even Lundgren gets the benefit of being America's neighbor and receiving the benefit of protection that goes along with it along with economic stimulus from US companies.

I brought that up to bolster your point that we try to right our wrongs often times, even if it means we get raped $$$ wise in the end.  

[Lundgren]

Not only that. Nazis were killing not only Jews, but anyone with physical defects and ailmant, homosexuals, anyone who wasn't like them. Of Caucasian blood. If they would have won. It would have been just a matter of time before they tried to destroy the Japanese, all Asians and Italians.  Somehow, the colonists and slavery are just no where near that lunacy.  But, thanks for trying to compare both when common sense should tell you is no where near the same.

I`m not saying there the same I`m saying there on the same scale. Please just look up what happened in the congo.

[tu_holmes]

I brought that up to bolster your point that we try to right our wrongs often times, even if it means we get raped $$$ wise in the end.  

Yeah man... It kills me when people want to talk about what the US "did do", and don't say shit about what other groups "are STILL doing".

[Fury]

No I`m saying humans are evil it`s our state of mind. we don`t go outright and kill people, but we find ways, to get thing done.

Just a question, but how many Iraquis have died of starvation due to the war. Please due this without quoting how bad Saddam was, for millions they rather have him with peace than you guys with war.

Starvation? LOL. That's not even close to the main cause of most of the civilian casualties in Iraq. It was sectarian violence fueled by Iranian money.  

You are a fucking retard. Why Ron lets you carry on with your 45th gimmick is beyond me.

You jumping all over the place to defend your idiotic point only shows how clueless and brain-dead you are. Jumping from slavery to the Iraq war? Get the fuck out.